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Kulkulcan
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Spawn run doesn't need dark?
#23937453 - 12/18/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've read that you don't need darkness when colonizing bulk substrate from grain spawn.
Am I right that you also don't need darkness when colonizing the grain from spores?
Could the mycelium actually colonize the grain BETTER with some light?
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Mad Season
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Re: Spawn run doesn't need dark? [Re: Kulkulcan] 1
#23937461 - 12/18/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Throughout the entire cycle right from inoc you will see a higher performance with cycling ambient lighting
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r.lutece
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Re: Spawn run doesn't need dark? [Re: Mad Season]
#23937464 - 12/18/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Spawn run doesn't need dark? [Re: r.lutece]
#23937560 - 12/18/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you're finding info that says to colonize in the dark it's time to work on research skills. That info is 30 years old and is only ever repeated by noobs. Don't read info regurgitated by noobs
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Re: Spawn run doesn't need dark? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23937569 - 12/18/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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use some light but yes both work but some light is a better method.
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Kulkulcan
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Re: Spawn run doesn't need dark? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23938130 - 12/18/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said: If you're finding info that says to colonize in the dark it's time to work on research skills. That info is 30 years old and is only ever repeated by noobs. Don't read info regurgitated by noobs
I AM finding 30 year old info that says you need dark, and I am well aware that that info is 30 years old. My research skills are fine. I find your tone consistently demeaning, bodhisatta. Please do us both a favor and don't bother to reply to my posts anymore.
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Kulkulcan
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Re: Spawn run doesn't need dark? [Re: Mad Season]
#23938142 - 12/18/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mad Season said: Throughout the entire cycle right from inoc you will see a higher performance with cycling ambient lighting
How bright should the light be?
Is 6500°K light (like sunlight) best?
12 hours on, 12 hours off, right?
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Hekate
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Re: Spawn run doesn't need dark? [Re: Kulkulcan]
#23938149 - 12/18/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dude, look at the most recent information. Expect answers like that though, it's the way it is. I used to bag my shit and be worried of light exposure. We now know its a non issue. I would avoid extreme light conditions. Don't take things too personally; you'll extract imformation from the educated faster. They're tired of antiquated data recycling.
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peptorepto
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Re: Spawn run doesn't need dark? [Re: Kulkulcan]
#23938152 - 12/18/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kulkulcan said:
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Mad Season said: Throughout the entire cycle right from inoc you will see a higher performance with cycling ambient lighting
How bright should the light be?
Is 6500°K light (like sunlight) best?
12 hours on, 12 hours off, right?
Dude, just leave it on top of your fridge or on a shelf.
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Hekate
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Re: Spawn run doesn't need dark? [Re: Hekate]
#23938157 - 12/18/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You don't have to worry over specific lighting spectrums until you get to fruiting. Ambient is fine until that point. If you happen to have a spawn run near the fruiting light conditions for a project at the fruiting stage, that's fine too.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Spawn run doesn't need dark? [Re: Hekate]
#23938167 - 12/18/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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TheShroomster01
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Re: Spawn run doesn't need dark? [Re: Kulkulcan]
#23938321 - 12/18/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kulkulcan said:
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bodhisatta said: If you're finding info that says to colonize in the dark it's time to work on research skills. That info is 30 years old and is only ever repeated by noobs. Don't read info regurgitated by noobs
I AM finding 30 year old info that says you need dark, and I am well aware that that info is 30 years old. My research skills are fine. I find your tone consistently demeaning, bodhisatta. Please do us both a favor and don't bother to reply to my posts anymore.
That's the tone on this site. You've gotta learn to love it.
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bodhisatta 
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We're a group of adults growing drugs. Some people are able to use the resources better some not. Sorry I want people to be able to use their head effectively
If you take the things I say that personally and poorly then you're in for a really rough time here and in life.
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r.lutece
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Re: Spawn run doesn't need dark? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23938396 - 12/18/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said: If you take the things I say that personally and poorly then you're in for a really rough time here and in life.
-------------------- One goes into an experiment knowing one might fail. But one does not undertake an experiment knowing one HAS failed.
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TheShroomster01
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Re: Spawn run doesn't need dark? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23938426 - 12/18/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said: We're a group of adults growing drugs.
I can't believe that everyone isn't doing that.
-------------------- I'm European, i can't help it. "To harvest a cannabis plant to make hash corresponds to slaughtering a cow to make milk. Rub it!"
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Kulkulcan
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Re: Spawn run doesn't need dark? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23939353 - 12/18/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said: We're a group of adults growing drugs. Some people are able to use the resources better some not. Sorry I want people to be able to use their head effectively
If you take the things I say that personally and poorly then you're in for a really rough time here and in life.
Again you spin this so I'm a fuckup. That's the tone of this site and you've gotta learn to love it? OK, then how's this - fuck you.
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r.lutece
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Re: Spawn run doesn't need dark? [Re: Kulkulcan]
#23939436 - 12/18/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kulkulcan, man, you're taking this way too personally.
Bod's a very firm believer in the "If you give a man a fish..." school of thought. Take his sass with a grain of salt and look at what he's trying to tell you.
-Old info is frequently not as reliable as new info. The average Tek older than five years shouldn't be followed on your early runs.
-The search engine is your friend and can help you out just as much as posting a majority of the time. In this case, for every thread that says to keep your grow in the dark, there are five more newer threads saying to give it light.
-This is the Internet, and people on the Internet have no obligation to be polite. When they're not, it's not because of you or anything you did, some people just aren't polite. You have to learn to just let that shit go.
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Re: Spawn run doesn't need dark? [Re: Kulkulcan]
#23939438 - 12/18/16 11:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. -Robert A. Heinlein
Links and teks ND's grow log and discussion Plant thread
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GabbaGhoul
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Re: Spawn run doesn't need dark? [Re: Kulkulcan]
#26711624 - 06/01/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Kulkulcan said:
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bodhisatta said: We're a group of adults growing drugs. Some people are able to use the resources better some not. Sorry I want people to be able to use their head effectively
If you take the things I say that personally and poorly then you're in for a really rough time here and in life.
Again you spin this so I'm a fuckup. That's the tone of this site and you've gotta learn to love it? OK, then how's this - fuck you.
I know this post is dead but I just gotta point out...
...with a name like bodhisatta, one would expect a little more compassion and a lot less intolerance.
Furthermore, it’s confusing how “the tone of this site” (a site centered around mushrooms-more specifically magic mushrooms- which i think we can all agree is a gift from the universe that helps enhance one’s spirituality/expand one’s mind/helps strengthen one’s ability to be empathetic and compassionate and increases one’s understanding of the human condition) is a tone that’s “consistently demeaning.” Seems a bit contradictory.
...Just sayin’
However for the record, I didn’t think anything that was said (at least in this thread, anyway) was too egregious.
Btw, Bod, I must say, all this aside, I love your teks though. That info is golden. Thank you.
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Re: Spawn run doesn't need dark? [Re: GabbaGhoul] 1
#26711662 - 06/01/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have never felt demeaned on this site or really anything but help and support. This is a site of priceless information that many experienced people spend their valuable time contributing to with zero compensation.
The only time I see people get annoyed is when someone comes along who has clearly not done research or put any time into getting down the basics. I've had many friends who think I will happily agree to teaching them how to grow and I always respond with a link to shroomery and tell them to read and learn first then we can talk. Not one person has done that yet. Nobody wants to help someone who won't put in the work.
I'm not saying that is the OP necessarily but it's annoying to see people getting "called out" just cause they didn't respond the way you wanted them to.
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