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#23937395 - 12/18/16 08:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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A very thought provoking TED Talk. Give it a chance.
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Asante]
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Asante said: A very thought provoking TED Talk. Give it a chance.
it's a TEDx talk, they're retardation where they let the loonie tunes talk about retarded shit
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Asante]
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Of course it does. I've seen this video in the past and I recall a few points, but you don't need a lab research to know that the more money you get the less empathetic you get. Th poor help each other. The rich help themselves. They have more self confidence and less compassion. It's nature. Just like wolves. The strongest eats first.
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it's a TEDx talk, they're retardation where they let the loonie tunes talk about retarded shit
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Idk i know a lot of bitter and mean broke people.
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Mush 4 Brains] 2
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Mush 4 Brains said: Idk i know a lot of bitter and mean broke people.
Yeah go to any rich area of a city, and any poor area of a city. Turns out, money actually can buy happiness.
The happiest, most giving people i've ever met were rich as fuck, and the most selfish and degenerate people i've ever met were poor as fuck.
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
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Yes. Absolutely. I'm watching the video now and haven't seen the whole thing yet, but there are several studies where this phenomenon has been observed. The Monopoly study being one of them.
Have you noticed that drivers in rich areas are much more likely to be aggressive assholes? They're much more likely to cut you off, to blare the horn, to be impatient, and do jackass maneuvers. Even the way they drive is more self-entitled and arrogant. It's all about "everybody get out of MY way!"
Lots of money, power, and status inflates one's ego. Ego can go to your head and make you believe you are superior to others.
When you have too much money, you start to value everything, even other humans, as commodities that can be bought and sold. Loss of money, power, and status, these are the things that humbles somebody and makes them modest.
Speaking of money, even monkeys also feel a concept of fairness and equality:
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Sheekle] 5
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Sheekle said: The happiest, most giving people i've ever met were rich as fuck, and the most selfish and degenerate people i've ever met were poor as fuck.
Really? I've found that poor people are often far more generous. I've noticed rich people can sometimes be stingy tippers, often taking out their calculators to tip exactly 15%, while those who are less fortunate often round up and give extra.
In fact this experiment was performed where somebody dressed up as a bum in Beverly Hills vs Long Beach, and he received much more money in Long Beach.
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Crystal G] 2
#23937516 - 12/18/16 09:27 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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people have different reasons to be mean/altruistic/nice.
it's not easy to boil it down into easy equations.
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Sheekle]
#23937523 - 12/18/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mush 4 Brains said: Idk i know a lot of bitter and mean broke people.
Yeah go to any rich area of a city, and any poor area of a city. Turns out, money actually can buy happiness.
The happiest, most giving people i've ever met were rich as fuck, and the most selfish and degenerate people i've ever met were poor as fuck.
Yup
The broke, homeless, screwdriver wielding crack addict is no nice...
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Mush 4 Brains] 3
#23937535 - 12/18/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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that's not just poor, that's destitute. funny how little thought goes into the posts in this thread.
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23937542 - 12/18/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You're a mind reader huh? Dont presume to know what i think.
Could someone translate that into akira language..you know needlessly convoluted and 4 paragraphs long. Your big words seem to give you a false sense of intelligence
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Patlal]
#23937562 - 12/18/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Asante said: A very thought provoking TED Talk. Give it a chance.
it's a TEDx talk, they're retardation where they let the loonie tunes talk about retarded shit

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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23937565 - 12/18/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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TED talk =/= TEDx talk
you should go on TEDx, Prisoner. they'll pay anyone to lecture.
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23937591 - 12/18/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I should talk about the conspiracy of chemtrails and UFOs
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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streaks of light are always supernatural.
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#23937633 - 12/18/16 10:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Streaks period are always supernatural. Especially the ones on your drawers
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: akira_akuma]
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Asante]
#23937721 - 12/18/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bunch of bullshit. One of my closest friends is from a wealthy and very powerful family. I lived with her for several years and she was the most down to earth, humble, and generous people that I have ever known. It's the person that matters and not the superficial attributes.
It is a stereotype that rich people or money make you mean and it would be just as valid to have a ted talk on how terrible asians are at driving, how black men are violent thugs, how mexicans are rapists, and muslims want to blow themselves up. But TED won't do that because they are consumed with rich white liberal guilt.
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
#23937741 - 12/18/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree, becoming rich doesnt make you mean. But i do think you have people out there that are power hungry. They want wealth, expensive cars, women etc./extremely materialistic.
And when these types of people acquire great wealth they lose something they used to have when they were at the bottom, humility. But many people do stay humble. Its no secret money distorts people's thinking
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
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ohcrapitsnico said: But TED won't do that because they are consumed with rich white liberal guilt.
is that a stereotype?
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23937804 - 12/18/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ever notice that rich liberals don't want anyone else to become rich?
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
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how so? can you show something on that?
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23937936 - 12/18/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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One example off the top of my head is Moochelle Obama saying how the rich wont mind sharing a piece of the pie.
Or how the democrats want to constantly tax the rich. Not even just the super elite rich either.
Ita okay to be rich and liberal but not rich and conservative.
You can play coy all you want, you know its the truth. Well maybe you are that ignorant, im not actually sure. There are many many more examples i can find for you
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#23937941 - 12/18/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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...and the usual suspects run yet another thread into the ground because it reeks of Liberal.
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Asante]
#23937953 - 12/18/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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so it couldnt possibly be because the premise is unsound
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#23937960 - 12/18/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nobody even watched the video, everybody just jumps in to suck the dicks of the 1% without even haven bothered to watch the research of said psychologist and the conclusions derived thereof.
I thought it would die down after the candidate from the Obstructionist party was made president. Wrong, it just fortifies the incentive to obstruct anything not likeminded.
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
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Mush 4 Brains said: One example off the top of my head is Moochelle Obama saying how the rich wont mind sharing a piece of the pie.
Or how the democrats want to constantly tax the rich. Not even just the super elite rich either.
Ita okay to be rich and liberal but not rich and conservative.
You can play coy all you want, you know its the truth. Well maybe you are that ignorant, im not actually sure. There are many many more examples i can find for you
holy shit, the airs are insane that you put on. i'm ignorant? for asking you something?
M. Obama, she said something you didn't find to be true, so her idealism is what? evil?
the democrats have made plenty of mistakes, but so have the republicans. the democrats have proven themselves hypocrites. so has the republicans. hopefully this term will be different, or at least, more productive. hopefully taking care of ISIS will be more productive than the Iraq conflict was.
it's ok to be rich, as long as the system isn't gamed by the rich, just because they can...even the fact that people (like yourself, i assume- with that attitude of yours) admire Trump for having gamed the system, what, in order to learn it and then what, convince you that he's the one to fix it...ok. well, i'm waiting. because if the system doesn't get fixed then nothing changes. some small factors in play to change things is exactly how things get started, but it's oft times also the stop-off. so i'm waiting.
but how is it that that's admirable that he ever gamed it at all, if he even admits that it's rigged against the little guy?
ok so he had a change of heart...good. but don't act like he's a fucking hero yet. he still, until just recently since his running for president and receiving adulation, still had been unsure of himself in the past...he's gone from more left-leaning to more right, and he's still not even really a right-winger, though he's willing to work with them, obviously, he ran as a republican...but hopefully he knows what he's doing with the republicans he's hiring. even Sarah Palin could perform well. you judge people by their actions. not their words.
so the fact is, every party has perpetuated lies and hypocrisy. people are generally irrational.
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this is a forum, we discuss things here. welcome to the internet.
i guess this is the 'new way' now. just shitpost and leave it at that. best way to propagate the stifling of opinions, so you can have your way.
shit, at least my posts have content.
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Asante said: Nobody even watched the video, everybody just jumps in to suck the dicks of the 1% without even haven bothered to watch the research of said psychologist and the conclusions derived thereof.
I thought it would die down after the candidate from the Obstructionist party was made president. Wrong, it just fortifies the incentive to obstruct anything not likeminded.
i definitely intend to. i'll watch it in a bit and formulate a reply. i just have other thangs doin', but...yeah, i noticed, it seems people just jumped on the premise without watching it, and it's funny how quickly that happens. almost like people aren't even thinking.
PS: oh yeah...you didn't know? this is what happens. people are insecure...they retrench and double-down on their beliefs and convictions, instead of seeking the 'middle way', as it is termed in Buddhism. or in other words, take a balanced approach. they literally become 'dumber', you might say.
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: akira_akuma]
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PPS: if the people within government didn't already abuse their position of authority by making long-games for people's wealth to be taken to go into their OWN pockets, there wouldn't be a need for regulations...reducing the regulatory burden on the economy is a good idea. but these burdensome regulations wouldn't have ever been possible to suggest, realistically, and believably (despite it's being generally no good in the long-term), if people didn't already abuse their power and give ammunition to their opponents.
this is called the conflagration of misuse of language and communication. the means to use the war of emotions and senses, and logic in some cases, of people against themselves.
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Asante]
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I did watch the video
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everybody just jumps in to suck the dicks of the 1% without even haven bothered to watch the research of said psychologist and the conclusions derived thereof.
a scientist was paid by march against monsanto to prove that GMOs cause cancer, so he did a study and published his findings but then the scientific community took his study apart and showed all the flaws proving it to be a biased study in which a conclusion was the beginning and the study steered as such
the same thing is going on here, he began with a conclusion and made sure to narrate every single thing to point to that conclusion "OMG, THE GUY WITH MORE FAKE MONEY IS EATING MORE PRETZELS THEREFORE HE IS MEAN BECAUSE HE'S 'RICH'!!!"
what else did they do to stack the deck for their conclusion?
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I thought it would die down after the candidate from the Obstructionist party was made president. Wrong, it just fortifies the incentive to obstruct anything not likeminded.
likeminded... such as your anti '1%' bullshit that is the same things all the other liberals are posting about, "OMG, DEY HAZ DUH MUNEEZ, DEY DE EBIL!"
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23938018 - 12/18/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: so it couldnt possibly be because the premise is unsound
this is a forum, we discuss things here. welcome to the internet.
i guess this is the 'new way' now. just shitpost and leave it at that. best way to propagate the stifling of opinions, so you can have your way.
which shit post are you referring to, the one that simply says "provocative ted talk, give it a chance"
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shit, at least my posts have content.
not really, you're shitposting is an attempt to stifle my opinion and part of that opinion is that TEDx talks are horse shit
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: akira_akuma]
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Asante said: Nobody even watched the video, everybody just jumps in to suck the dicks of the 1% without even haven bothered to watch the research of said psychologist and the conclusions derived thereof.
I thought it would die down after the candidate from the Obstructionist party was made president. Wrong, it just fortifies the incentive to obstruct anything not likeminded.
i definitely intend to. i'll watch it in a bit and formulate a reply.
so you came here to discuss other people's comments, you must have lots of monopoly money, save some pretzels for the monopoly poor
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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i came here to see the thread. i saw the replies it had, had some thoughts run through my head, and wanted to share them before i forgot what i was gonna say. chill the fuck out with the adumbration of my life choices, you know, the ones you want make presumptions about.
i think poor people can have as good ideas are rich, or middle-class people; don't you think so? or only the latter can have a good idea? what do you think?
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nah. my posts have content. they expound on my thoughts, rather than just place them inordinately as if they should be listened to without explanation.
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: akira_akuma]
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Prisoner#1 said: not really, you're shitposting is an attempt to stifle my opinion and part of that opinion is that TEDx talks are horse shit
nah. my posts have content. they expound on my thoughts, rather than just place them inordinately as if they should be listened to without explanation.
all I've ever seen was you post about how great your posts are
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my posts are great, great, they're gonna do wonderfully.
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: akira_akuma]
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so i watched the video, and i'll make a couple asides:
first off: dopamine. the reward center of the brain is intrinsically tied to the addiction center (nucleus accumbens), so hence you see that people whom are a: more well-off b: whom have more tendency to be listened to and agree with and c: whom are rewarded for their statements and actions, these people are prone to becoming more attracted to these things over time, to the point where their statements and actions can make a marked shift between two different extremes on a spectrum (this dichotomy helps illustrate my point, and ties into my next point).
secondly: people whom have more of a self-interest in seeking pleasure and reward for their actions and their statements (as opposed to people whom opt more to work for others) can be motivated by altruism just the same- though they need a rationale to do so, and thus this is where the difficulty comes into play...but as in the video it's stated, statements and actions which correlate to those in a higher class- with emotional motives; adulation and modesty comes to mind- with feelings of empathy, compassion, cooperation, and community; these correlations can have a driving influence on people even in the highest rungs of society.
but what happens is, the higher you go, the harder and harder it is to be convinced.
but when you have someone that comes from nothing...and gets rich...are they more likely to be altruistic? or are those whom are benefited with wealth from early on in their life, and whom maintains that wealth (or grows it) more likely?
the answer is simple.
altruism works. you have something from nothing, ie, you are given wealth by way of your parents, other fiduciary means, ect, you feel more compelled through cognitive means, through diffidence, to share that wealth, and/or produce a more conscientious motivation for attaining said rewards- which sets the precedence for future altruistic endeavors.
though, one can't throw out the baby with the bathwater, as it were. you need to maintain that self-interest, which is the motivating factor, in order to create that wealth.
so it's a teeter-totter like effect, if you will, that accomplishes this.
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Asante]
#23938718 - 12/18/16 05:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not sure about the game addressing disparity in the real world -- comprehend the idea behind the study, but a board game takes place in a finite space of time, with a clear sentiment that the player is supposed to win. The premise of Monopoly in particular is that the player is supposed to win by as large of margin as possible.

When he talks about the surveys and how wealthier people are more likely to justify greed as moral it is interesting, but it seems that the studies were done on people already in different financial brackets rather than moving through financial brackets.
Think it is less about money making people mean, and more about mean people being better at making money.
He goes on to talk about how when given money poorer people are more likely to give it away while richer people are less likely to give -- but take a step back and consider the fact that someone who is more likely to keep money to his or her self is going to accumulate more money over a life time, and therefor be more likely to put him or her self into situations where the cash flow can be increased.
On the vehicle test, am unable to discern whether or not that crosswalk has a button to trigger a light or not -- it appears to have a solar panel on top of the pole, which implies a light, but he does not seem to reach out to the pole on any of his approaches to the curb. It may just be a constantly flashing light to notify of the crosswalk. It would help to have a bit more clarity in terms of the requirement to stop -- the city bus in particular inclines me to think that it may be a button-based sign, and people are not stopping because he has not signaled them to.
Finally, to be a bitter skeptic towards the end of it -- he talks about how people can be taught compassion and that there are organizations of wealthy people giving away their wealth, but looking at one of his primary examples, Bill Gates, inclines me to think that it is just wealthy people using their wealth to improve the state of their life. Still remember Bill Gates being hated and demonized for windows and the domination of the PC market -- fast forward to after he's started giving money away, and people are more hesitant to treat him as evil. He has more money than he knew what to do with, and he found a way to employ some of that money to decreasing the rate at which people are derisive towards him.
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said: Of course it does. I've seen this video in the past and I recall a few points, but you don't need a lab research to know that the more money you get the less empathetic you get. Th poor help each other. The rich help themselves. They have more self confidence and less compassion. It's nature. Just like wolves. The strongest eats first.
the rich and poor dont mix because of the poors disdain for the wealthy.
it's almost like the perpetual black violence that everyone wants an answer for but the only answer is something they dont like. which is you have to work for it and mentally change your attitude.
you have to cut the bullshit out if you want to get money. you hang out with poor folks you will always think poor. break through the barrier and you will be the one called "mean" because you choose not to deal with people who do not bring success in your life.
nobody mentions the years of hardwork people go through for money, they just see the end result. the elevator to success is broken, please take the stairs.
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: keyser_soze]
#23938817 - 12/18/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Every group of poor people need a token rich guy to give them financial education. The rich guy will stay grounded by hanging out with poor people.
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Patlal]
#23939061 - 12/18/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Patlal said: Every group of poor people need a token rich guy to give them financial education. The rich guy will stay grounded by hanging out with poor people.
history says the poor just want instant success and handouts.
those who break through are called "mean" and "rich pricks".
what do you think of CEO's who make millions per year for decades of hard work? probably rich pricks. am i right?
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: keyser_soze]
#23939103 - 12/18/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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i think everyone should be taxed the same but if the super rich were taxed 1-3% percent more I'm sure they could afford to pay healthcare for the bottom half
Edited by Konyap (12/18/16 08:23 PM)
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Asante]
#23939309 - 12/18/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Repertoire89]
#23939313 - 12/18/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Money only makes liberals mean, this is why conservatives generally give away much more of their money to charity than liberals do
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Asante]
#23939320 - 12/18/16 09:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Asante said: Nobody even watched the video, everybody just jumps in to suck the dicks of the 1% without even haven bothered to watch the research of said psychologist and the conclusions derived thereof.
I thought it would die down after the candidate from the Obstructionist party was made president. Wrong, it just fortifies the incentive to obstruct anything not likeminded.
Its funny that people argue against such a concise presentation where a dozen and a half studies are cited, with anecdotal diatribe.
Especially considering the title was a question, not the point of the whole talk, he explains his alternative take on that question at the end of the video.
Edited by Repertoire89 (12/18/16 10:02 PM)
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hostileuniverse said: Money only makes liberals mean, this is why conservatives generally give away much more of their money to charity than liberals do
LOL no.
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23939764 - 12/19/16 06:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Asante said: ...and the usual suspects run yet another thread into the ground because it reeks of Liberal.
so it couldnt possibly be because the premise is unsound
premises are either true or false. arguments are sound if and only if they are valid with all true premises.
i don't think the speaker's premises are false seeing that he demonstrated them to be true via the findings of the experiments. and i doubt he intended to demonstrate them as necessarily true - true in all cases - seeing that there are obviously bad and good people on all ends of the wealth spectrum. but his conclusion does seem a little shaky to me. he seems to believe that the best way out of this mess is to simply convince rich people that they should contribute more to society. that's just not going to happen. but we can leave it to the ethicists, pastors and priests to try. every little bit helps.
our current distribution of wealth is the result of laws. we can't legislate virtue. but we can legislate equality, and by that i mean equal consideration of everyone, not equal distribution of wealth. we can re-engineer our economy to be more stable and inclusive. and if we don't, as the speaker says, things will only get worse. much worse.
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23939809 - 12/19/16 07:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: Money only makes liberals mean, this is why conservatives generally give away much more of their money to charity than liberals do
LOL no.
that's a pretty well proven fact, that's why liberals demand that tax money be used for charitable donations all the time, why else would the be so concerned about planned parenthood funding ot the endowment for the arts, as long as they have others paying for these donations they feel that they've done their part in charitable giving
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Re: TED Talk -- Does Money make you Mean? [Re: millzy]
#23939832 - 12/19/16 07:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Asante said: ...and the usual suspects run yet another thread into the ground because it reeks of Liberal.
so it couldnt possibly be because the premise is unsound
premises are either true or false. arguments are sound if and only if they are valid with all true premises.
i don't think the speaker's premises are false seeing that he demonstrated them to be true via the findings of the experiments. and i doubt he intended to demonstrate them as necessarily true - true in all cases
he narrated them to be true in all cases, he did not provide any proofs, only conclusions based on simple claims of observation. in his 'experiment' he provided pretzels and claimed the one that started with more money ate far more than the other player while failing to show the 'poor' player ate any at all or explaining whether the poor player had eaten prior to the 'experiment', nor did he start with demonstrating the personality of the players in the game or by explaining that with a board game, winners tend to gloat a great deal more to begin with
the whole thing was confirmation bias bullshit
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