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THE HOMELESS POT ZOMBIES OF USA...
#23936997 - 12/18/16 12:12 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SYNTHETIC_MARIJUANA_HOMELESS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-12-17-10-30-58
Dec 17, 10:30 AM EST
Homeless across country fall victim to synthetic marijuana
By JIM SALTER Associated Press
ST. LOUIS (AP) -- The nation's homeless are proving to be especially susceptible to a new, dirt-cheap version of synthetic marijuana, which leaves users glassy-eyed, aimless, sprawled on streets and sidewalks oblivious to their surroundings or wandering into traffic.
Nearly 300 homeless people became ill last month in St. Louis due to the man-made hallucinogen that experts believe is far more dangerous and unpredictable than the real thing. Other outbreaks have occurred in New York City, Los Angeles and Austin, Texas.
"It was common for us to see reactions where they were violent, incoherent, sometimes catatonic on the ground," Austin police Lt. Kurt Thomas said.
The homeless are easy targets in a confined area, experts say. The drug is cheap - as little as $1 or $2 for a joint - more difficult to detect in drug tests and is a fast escape from a harsh reality.
Things got so bad in St. Louis last month that the region's largest provider of homeless services urged people to stop giving the homeless handouts, because they were worried the money would be used to buy the drug.
The Rev. Larry Rice saw the odd behaviors from several homeless people in the streets outside his New Life Evangelistic Center shelter in downtown St. Louis.
"They told me, 'You get so low, you get such a sense of hopelessness. Somebody wants to sell this for a dollar and you take it,'" Rice said. "People are desperate out there."
Synthetic marijuana has been around since the late 2000s, packaged under names like K2, Darkness and Mr. Happy. The Drug Enforcement Administration says it is usually a mixture of herbs and spices sprayed with a synthetic compound chemically similar to THC, the psychoactive ingredients in marijuana. It is typically manufactured in China and sold in places like head shops, but it's also on the street and over the internet.
State legislatures have outlawed it based on its chemical makeup, but the makers tweak the formula enough that it escapes the provisions of the law. So far in St. Louis, only one charge has been filed - a homeless man accused of selling to others on the street.
"You factor in some of the despair or difficult circumstances that these folks are going through, and they often fall prey to the suppliers offering an outlet to deal with their unfortunate situation," Thomas said.
The medical dangers are real with synthetic marijuana, which can be up to 100 times more potent than real marijuana, said Dr. Anthony Scalzo, director of toxicology for the Saint Louis University School of Medicine.
Users often experience rapid heartbeat, high blood pressure, anxiety and hallucinations, he said.
Research published last year in the New England Journal of Medicine indicated that 20 deaths from August 2011 through April 2015 were blamed on synthetic marijuana, though that doesn't account for overdose deaths of undetermined or multiple causes. Scalzo said those who survive can suffer permanent kidney failure and brain damage.
"We have no idea how the body is going to react to the next wave of chemicals," Scalzo said. "It's like Russian roulette. You just don't know what you're getting."
During one outbreak in Brooklyn in July, 130 people were hospitalized. Witnesses said many of users were shaking or leaning aimlessly against trees and fire hydrants.
In emergency room interviews, users said they would prefer to smoke real marijuana but took the synthetic drug to avoid detection in urine tests typically mandated for probation and parole issues and other reasons, according to Michelle Nolan of the New York City Health Department.
"For individuals still using a psychoactive substance, this afforded them, criminally speaking, fewer risks," Nolan said.
The Skid Row area of downtown Los Angeles saw the scourge over a few days in August, when 36 people were treated for overdoses. Some had seizures, others staggered through traffic or collapsed on curbs.
Around 150 homeless people have overdosed on synthetic marijuana since August in Austin, and one death was blamed on the drug, Thomas said. Police and homeless advocates in Austin are warning those on the street to avoid the temptation to use, but know it's an uphill battle.
"Being realistic, we're always going to have a group of folks who are willing to engage in self-destructive behavior," Thomas said.
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Re: THE HOMELESS POT ZOMBIES OF USA... [Re: Ellis Dee] 3
#23937053 - 12/18/16 01:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I remember seeing an episode of Alaska State Troopers and there were two dudes almost comatose outside of a store after smoking synthetic "cannaboids". Sad state of affairs to see people having such horrible side effects after taking a legal variant of a drug that is more dangerous and toxic than the illegal alternative.
They want us all to be zombies. Work, pay taxes, don't ask questions.
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Re: THE HOMELESS POT ZOMBIES OF USA... [Re: tealeaf]
#23937639 - 12/18/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If they want us all to be zombies then why is weed becoming legal in many states?
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: If they want us all to be zombies then why is weed becoming legal in many states?
Maybe you just answered your own question... because it makes you a zombie...
Ya know, it amazes me that people can say pot is not a drug and has no side effects and then in the same breath say its used to treat cancer.
It is a drug, not a hard one or especially dangerous, but its a drug and does have side effects. I've personally noticed it makes people lazy (zombie like). Kids work all week flipping burgers just to have a little weed money to keep them stoned for the next week...
Its a drug and it has side effects. Its used to treat cancer for heaven sakes... Of course it has side effects.
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Re: THE HOMELESS POT ZOMBIES OF USA... [Re: Ellis Dee] 1
#23937971 - 12/18/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea, pot zombies who are not even using pot. Makes sense.
Troll news.
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Re: THE HOMELESS POT ZOMBIES OF USA... [Re: Ran-D]
#23938236 - 12/18/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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homeless pot zombie
Sounds like a Nixon-esque insult. 
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they often fall prey to the suppliers
Unless they're able to sell it, in large batches, I don't believe there's any money, in that.
So far as I can tell, they're doing that to people, for only a few pennies.
Edited by durian_2008 (12/19/16 04:57 PM)
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#23938500 - 12/18/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's the meth zombies and drunk zombies u gotta watch out for
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#23938645 - 12/18/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ellis Dee said:
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: If they want us all to be zombies then why is weed becoming legal in many states?
Maybe you just answered your own question... because it makes you a zombie...
Ya know, it amazes me that people can say pot is not a drug and has no side effects and then in the same breath say its used to treat cancer.
It is a drug, not a hard one or especially dangerous, but its a drug and does have side effects. I've personally noticed it makes people lazy (zombie like). Kids work all week flipping burgers just to have a little weed money to keep them stoned for the next week...
Its a drug and it has side effects. Its used to treat cancer for heaven sakes... Of course it has side effects.
The poster tealeaf was saying that they (the US) wants us, the citizens, to be zombies via using fake weed.
However, real weed is becoming legal in many states, therefore disproving what he said.
That's all I was getting at.
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Re: THE HOMELESS POT ZOMBIES OF USA... [Re: Ellis Dee]
#23939528 - 12/19/16 12:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ellis Dee said:
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: If they want us all to be zombies then why is weed becoming legal in many states?
It is a drug, not a hard one or especially dangerous, but its a drug and does have side effects. I've personally noticed it makes people lazy (zombie like).
That depends on whether it's Indica or Sativa. One makes you lazy, one doesn't.
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Re: THE HOMELESS POT ZOMBIES OF USA... [Re: thebug76]
#23939915 - 12/19/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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thebug76 said:
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Ellis Dee said:
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: If they want us all to be zombies then why is weed becoming legal in many states?
It is a drug, not a hard one or especially dangerous, but its a drug and does have side effects. I've personally noticed it makes people lazy (zombie like).
That depends on whether it's Indica or Sativa. One makes you lazy, one doesn't.
this is a myth
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#23940126 - 12/19/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Call it a myth all you want, but some weeds I get make me work like hell, other weeds make me lazy and not want to do shit. I been smoking for 28 years. I kind of know what I'm talking about.
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Re: THE HOMELESS POT ZOMBIES OF USA... [Re: thebug76] 1
#23940357 - 12/19/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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"Things got so bad in St. Louis last month that the region's largest provider of homeless services urged people to stop giving the homeless handouts, because they were worried the money would be used to buy the drug."
A true advocate for the homeless would actually never say "don't give a homeless person money".
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Re: THE HOMELESS POT ZOMBIES OF USA... [Re: Achuma]
#23940362 - 12/19/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was researching the legalisms of opening a shelter.
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Re: THE HOMELESS POT ZOMBIES OF USA... [Re: thebug76]
#23940650 - 12/19/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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thebug76 said: Call it a myth all you want, but some weeds I get make me work like hell, other weeds make me lazy and not want to do shit. I been smoking for 28 years. I kind of know what I'm talking about.
True about different high from different weeds (and other factor) All kinds of weed have all kinds of qualities i think
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Re: THE HOMELESS POT ZOMBIES OF USA... [Re: DualWieldRake]
#23940843 - 12/19/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's like reading about wine tasting. They describe it in 5 or 6 senses, at least. You wonder whether they're taking a mild inebriant or a psychedelic.
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#23940918 - 12/19/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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No drinker but i like my weed with notes of chocolate and fruit (papaya, raspberry...and some citrus but not overwhelming) have a natural grassy, earthy initial character developing into a bouquet of sweet, yet spicy
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Re: THE HOMELESS POT ZOMBIES OF USA... [Re: Ellis Dee]
#23942552 - 12/20/16 07:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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LSD- real MDMA- not real
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