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OfflineEggtimer
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CBD oil is schedule 1
    #23935033 - 12/17/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

What the fucking scum fucks

https://www.leafly.com/news/politics/new-dea-rule-says-cbd-oil-really-truly-no-joke-illegal


https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2016-12-14/pdf/2016-29941.pdf?utm_campaign=subscription%20mailing%20list&utm_source=federalregister.gov&utm_medium=email

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CBD oil derived from hemp is now commonly available nationwide via web sites and mail order services. Those operations survive on the assumption that cannabidiol products below the legal threshold for THC percentage in hemp (0.3 percent or less) are technically legal.

Not so, says the DEA.
In the DEA comment on the entry, Rosenberg directly addressed the question:
What if it’s only cannabidiol (CBD) and no other cannabinoids? The agency’s response:
“For practical purposes, all extracts that contain CBD will also contain at least small amounts of other cannabinoids.
However, if it were possible to produce from the cannabis plant an extract that contained only CBD and no other cannabinoids,
such an extract would fall within the new drug code” and therefore remain federally illegal.
In other words: The DEA is confident that it can find enough traces of other cannabinoids in your CBD oil to arrest and prosecute.
And if they can’t, they still have the option of arresting
and prosecuting based on the CBD oil itself.

Is your CBD derived from hemp? Doesn’t matter to the DEA. The new extracts classification applies to all “extracts that have been derived from any plant of the genus Cannabis and which contain cannabinols and cannabidiols.”
Hemp is not a separate genus. (Although it may be a separate species; lot of debate on that point.) Legally speaking, hemp is simply cannabis with no more than 0.3 percent THC content.






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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: Eggtimer] * 1
    #23935043 - 12/17/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Schedule 1 is so harsh.


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: Lucis]
    #23935053 - 12/17/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Fennario said:
Schedule 1 is so harsh.



I guess technically it always has been but it wasn't enforced.
It's really fucked up though since it doesn't get you fucked up and helps so many people.
The only reason to do this is greed and being scum fucks.


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: Eggtimer]
    #23935062 - 12/17/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Outrage! was CBD saving to many lives ? Can we protest and save CBD like Kratom ?


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: ellomello]
    #23935080 - 12/17/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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ellomello said:
Outrage! was CBD saving to many lives ? Can we protest and save CBD like Kratom ?





I doubt it because Cannabis has years of being demonized by big bro, kratom does not.


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: Lucis]
    #23935092 - 12/17/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

They are really hanging on by thread with the whole Cannabis Debacle since the 30's. The widespread use of cannabis and the numerous states leagalizing its use is scaring the shit out of them.But to ban CBD oil is outrageous.
Western Society has long demonized Plant medicines while celebrating the use of synthetic made substances which have a higher profit gain.


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: Eggtimer] * 1
    #23935105 - 12/17/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Been seeing this story floating around all week and I don't understand. :confused:

Does it mean CBD derived from Hemp?


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: Lucis]
    #23935110 - 12/17/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: yogabunny]
    #23935139 - 12/17/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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yogabunny said:
Been seeing this story floating around all week and I don't understand. :confused:

Does it mean CBD derived from Hemp?



From what I gained from the article yes.
Most CBD oil contain very minute amounts of THC.
So in this regard they consider it illegal still.


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: yogabunny]
    #23935142 - 12/17/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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yogabunny said:
Been seeing this story floating around all week and I don't understand. :confused:

Does it mean CBD derived from Hemp?




Sadly yes

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he new extracts classification applies to all “extracts that have been derived from any plant of the genus Cannabis and which contain cannabinols and cannabidiols.”
Hemp is not a separate genus. (Although it may be a separate species; lot of debate on that point.) Legally speaking, hemp is simply cannabis with no more than 0.3 percent THC content.




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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: ellomello]
    #23935178 - 12/17/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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ellomello said:
Outrage! was CBD saving to many lives ? Can we protest and save CBD like Kratom ?




I wouldn't say that kratom was "saved" but the fact we gave them any pause was impressive.  I didn't participate due to laziness, but I did email my congresswoman after the election to state that I intentionally withheld my vote because she didn't support this cause.


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23935184 - 12/17/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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yogabunny said:
Been seeing this story floating around all week and I don't understand. :confused:

Does it mean CBD derived from Hemp?





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PART 1308—SCHEDULES OF
CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES

1. The authority citation for part 1308
continues to read as follows:
Authority:
21 U.S.C. 811, 812, 871(b),
unless otherwise noted.

2. Section 1308.11 is amended by
adding paragraph (d)(58) to read as
follows:
§ 1308.11    Schedule I.
*      *      *      *      *     
(d) *  *  *
(58) Marihuana Extract—(7350)
Meaning an extract containing one or
more cannabinoids that has been
derived from any plant of the genus
Cannabis, other than the separated resin
(whether crude or purified) obtained
from the plant.
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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: Eggtimer]
    #23935190 - 12/17/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Hemp is not a separate genus. (Although it may be a separate species; lot of debate on that point.)






A separate species from what?


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: psi]
    #23935195 - 12/17/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

From indica or sativa


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #23935215 - 12/17/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Is there really any serious taxonomic debate on that? Never heard of "hemp" being placed under anything other than sativa. Some taxonomists even consider both indica and sativa to be the same species.


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: psi]
    #23935221 - 12/17/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I always thought it was related to ruderalis.  I don't really know tho.

I mean the whole thing is kinda silly, it is like plant racism.  There are no pure breeds.


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: moonrockmushy] * 2
    #23935240 - 12/17/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah come to think of it I think I have heard of ruderalis being grown for seed. Not sure if this is true of all varieties grown for seed though.

"Hemp" is kind of a stupid term, kind of lumps in varieties grown for seed with varieties grown for fiber.

I tend to think that organisms that can all interbreed freely with each other should all be considered the same species, even if they differ a lot in characteristics.


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: psi]
    #23935260 - 12/17/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks Obama....


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: psi]
    #23935273 - 12/17/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You guys really believe your petition saved Kratom?  :rofl:
It was all some elaborate charade or sham. There is no way you can logically convince a rational mind that an addictive or habit forming opiate agonist is any more healthy, safe, or reasonable then cannabis.


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: psi]
    #23935275 - 12/17/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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psi said:
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Eggtimer said:
Quote:

Hemp is not a separate genus. (Although it may be a separate species; lot of debate on that point.)






A separate species from what?




Just for the record, it's not. what i posted just above you was from the federal register.

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2016-12-14/pdf/2016-29941.pdf?utm_campaign=subscription%20mailing%20list&utm_source=federalregister.gov&utm_medium=email

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PART 1308—SCHEDULES OF
CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES

1. The authority citation for part 1308
continues to read as follows:
Authority:
21 U.S.C. 811, 812, 871(b),
unless otherwise noted.

2. Section 1308.11 is amended by
adding paragraph (d)(58) to read as
follows:
§ 1308.11    Schedule I.
*      *      *      *      *     
(d) *  *  *
(58) Marihuana Extract—(7350)
Meaning an extract containing one or
more cannabinoids that has been
derived from any plant of the genus
Cannabis, other than the separated resin
(whether crude or purified) obtained
from the plant.
*      *      *      *      *     





Also, fwiw, Hemp is a strain of Cannabis Sativa


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: Supachopped719] * 1
    #23935283 - 12/17/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Fuck the children with seizures
and fuck the people with cancer

Fuck people that want to make their own medicine and live normal healthy lives because US healthcare is a money scamming piece of shit.


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: T-Rex]
    #23935299 - 12/17/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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T-Rex said:
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yogabunny said:
Been seeing this story floating around all week and I don't understand. :confused:

Does it mean CBD derived from Hemp?



From what I gained from the article yes.
Most CBD oil contain very minute amounts of THC.
So in this regard they consider it illegal still.




actually, they were getting by through a loop hole via the FDA before. they consider any products made from hemp with under .03% thc to be 'food grade' so the companies would grow hemp out of the country, process it, ship it in, and then make the products.


also, a lot of the products being sold were examined by the FDA and were found to not contain as much CBD as they claimed, and for ailments that weren't well researched for being treated with these cannabinoids.

from that alone, things need to be more closely regulated quality wise, and there needs to be more research on CBD to see if it really does treat all the things people say it does.


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: 404]
    #23935313 - 12/17/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Cbd should be regulated, but for sure not schedule 1. That's completely absurd.


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23935321 - 12/17/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
Fuck the children with seizures
and fuck the people with cancer

Fuck people that want to make their own medicine and live normal healthy lives because US healthcare is a money scamming piece of shit.




:shrug: wish it wasn't the case.  it goes deeper than that though.  it goes to the core of who we are, and how fearful we are as a species.


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23935335 - 12/17/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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:shrug: wish it wasn't the case.  it goes deeper than that though.  it goes to the core of who we are, and how fearful we are as a species.





Fear is a primal, driving, instinctive force that kept the human species alive for a very long time. Human beings don't like to let go...

('let go' is a metaphor for death and choosing not to let fear control our choices any longer)


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Re: CBD oil is schedule 1 [Re: moonrockmushy] * 4
    #23935370 - 12/17/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

FREE THE PLANTS!!!

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