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We are all just Wisps of Stardust Bound Together By A Bit of Energy
    #23934594 - 12/17/16 06:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Not only that, but this mass of stardust and energy must be supplied by a continual stream of energy--our bodies are not in the lowest energy state possible.  Eventually Entropy wins and we die. Since our bodies and those of animals have the same binding energy and are subject to the same laws of physics and entropy, it must be assumed that animals are equal to humans.  Therefore, animals are entitled to a soul as much as we are, which isn't possible in classical magical being (religious) thought. 

By this reasoning, Buddhists are correct.  Therefore, I just saved you all years wasted obtaining a degree in Theology.

There is no God. :smirk:


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Re: We are all just Wisps of Stardust Bound Together By A Bit of Energy [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23934611 - 12/17/16 06:27 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It's so weird right... it's almost like we were each struck individually with lightning, and we are the resulting static energy that zaps for a while, only to eventually fizzle out and wither away.

I guess lightning starts with an orgasm.... which means the big bang was the universe either having an orgasm or a seizure ZOMGGGGG :strokebeard:


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Re: We are all just Wisps of Stardust Bound Together By A Bit of Energy [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23934653 - 12/17/16 06:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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There is no God. :smirk:




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Re: We are all just Wisps of Stardust Bound Together By A Bit of Energy [Re: Grey Fox]
    #23934657 - 12/17/16 06:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

This thread is proof of entropy


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Re: We are all just Wisps of Stardust Bound Together By A Bit of Energy [Re: koods]
    #23934820 - 12/17/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Hi Koods.  How ya been?


Everything is subject to entropy.


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Re: We are all just Wisps of Stardust Bound Together By A Bit of Energy [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23934887 - 12/17/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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There is no God. :smirk:




If there is a god, I would gladly show it respect, but I cannot believe in one and consider myself happy.  When I was younger I realized trying to believe in god made me miserable, it was when I quit believing in god, and started believing in humanity, science, etc, that I became happy.  I don't go out of my way to insult the religious though, it's just not for me.  I see nothing wrong with atheistic beliefs like Buddhism, because Buddhism is a way of life, not belief in a deity, and I think some things within it might help those practicing it, but when people start down the path of believing that some deity has told them their way is the only way, and then they shun those that don't agree with them, that's insanity, and should not be acceptable in any form.  If someone wants to practice their religion in their home, then that's fine, just keep it there.

I guess you could call me an agnostic atheist, if I saw proof of a deity, and I mean real proof, then I would bend the knee, I don't know maybe I wouldn't though, but until that day I will keep investing energy in the side of life which can be proven, and can show results, and is not based in archaic delusions.  I understand the world is often a cold place, a dog eat dog existence, with the "might is right" mentality taking precedence in this world, people do anything to get ahead it seems like, so I get why people become overwhelmed and turn to things which they believe are greater than themselves, but I suggest fostering an appreciation for the majesty of what we can observe in the natural world, those things can bring you to the same lofty heights believing in religious figures can, and you can see them, touch them, experience them, so no unhealthy mindsets take hold.  I am not saying belief in religion will make the mind unhealthy, but I have seen many unhealthy patterns amongst people that are religious.  Hunter Thompson said "Pray to god, but row away from the rocks" or something like, I agree, don't pray and that's it, keep on rowing, don't rely on "god" to make your life better, get off your ass and put the effort in yourself.


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Re: We are all just Wisps of Stardust Bound Together By A Bit of Energy [Re: Lucis] * 1
    #23934902 - 12/17/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I believe God exists.


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Re: We are all just Wisps of Stardust Bound Together By A Bit of Energy [Re: starfire_xes] * 2
    #23934938 - 12/17/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You're describing physical laws. It makes sense to believe that laws are created and implemented by some creative force rather than them just appearing and maintaining themselves out of nothing.

Science can only explain how things work, not why. Even if humans could describe everything in the physical plane to a T, it doesn't mean anything, especially when you consider dimensions or the fact that this reality could just be a video game. A "god of the gaps" will always exist.


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Re: We are all just Wisps of Stardust Bound Together By A Bit of Energy [Re: pinedownpioneer]
    #23934942 - 12/17/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I believe God exists.




I would be interested in reading why you do believe in god, and how your life helped shape your beliefs.

I am curious if you were raised in a religious home, if you were, do you think being raised in such a home had an impact on your choice of being a theist? 

What experiences made god visible to you?  What things have you experienced that helped strengthen you belief in a deity?

I don't want to come off as being rude, so I hope you don't get that from my post above, I am interested in all manner of minds, theist, or atheist, whatever, I find it interesting how people have come to either deny, or accept, a deity in their lives.


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Re: We are all just Wisps of Stardust Bound Together By A Bit of Energy [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23934957 - 12/17/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I have always thought cosmic evolution and eventual life forming from organic compounds to be a much more beautiful and intricate concept than any of the creation myths of organized religions. :mushroom2:


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Re: We are all just Wisps of Stardust Bound Together By A Bit of Energy [Re: Reprobate420] * 4
    #23934976 - 12/17/16 10:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Have even written a poem about it lol:


Singularity, the seed of creation
Followed by a caustic inflation
What a sensation,
A universal manifestation...
Had begun...
Born as a pure energetic state
Things cooled down
And continued to inflate...
Quarks combined and further refined,
Sub-atomic particles
Have now been defined...
No need for intelligent design,
Merely the cry of Nature's hot mind
Soon after, the first atoms spawned,
Germination in the great cosmic pond...
The forces divided
As inflation subsided
Hydrogen has now glided
Where the void had resided...
It was beautiful...
Electro-static charges made clumps,
That's when gravity said "That's enough,
I'll take it from here, my dear...
You've been ever so gracious..."
Then things got more spacious
And the clumps continued to grow
Magnetic fields,
Made hydrogen glow...
Matter and energy
Now overflowed...
The first quasars began to show...
So awe-inspiring...
Amidst the galactic storm
The first stars were being born...
Stellar fusion makes them roar
As photons soar from the core...
Soon, new elements shall form...
They burn with such brilliant light
Critical mass, is coming in sight...
And like a candle in the night
They ignite... ever so bright...
It's supernova time!
Again and again...
Stars are born and die,
Seeding the sky
As new elements fly
In omni-directional lines...
The ingredients are all there
We are finally here
The final epoch, draws near...
Floating on the galactic shore,
A spiral arm beyond the core...
Suspended...
In time and space...
Gaia, Now shows her face
Orbiting a yellow sun...
Eons pass as she slowly evolves,
Volcanically active, as she revolves...
More eons pass, as the fire dissolves..
Finally...
Land and see...
And atmosphere...
For us to breathe...
Abiogenic processes take hold,
Earth, is now billions of years old...
Self-replicating cells
Mutate and grow
In the organic well...
It's almost our turn...
Variables and distinctions,
So many mass extinctions...
All played a part,
In Nature's magic art,
And purely by chance
And atomic romance...
So chaotically derived...
Humans...
Had finally arrived.


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Re: We are all just Wisps of Stardust Bound Together By A Bit of Energy [Re: Reprobate420]
    #23935103 - 12/17/16 11:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: We are all just Wisps of Stardust Bound Together By A Bit of Energy [Re: Reprobate420]
    #23935108 - 12/17/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

religion is heavily tainted with mythology especially christianity


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Re: We are all just Wisps of Stardust Bound Together By A Bit of Energy [Re: Konyap]
    #23935144 - 12/17/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Agreed. Even If the Christian God did exist i don't think it is a God worthy of praise lol.


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Re: We are all just Wisps of Stardust Bound Together By A Bit of Energy [Re: Lucis]
    #23935276 - 12/17/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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pinedownpioneer said:
I believe God exists.




I would be interested in reading why you do believe in god, and how your life helped shape your beliefs.

I am curious if you were raised in a religious home, if you were, do you think being raised in such a home had an impact on your choice of being a theist? 

What experiences made god visible to you?  What things have you experienced that helped strengthen you belief in a deity?

I don't want to come off as being rude, so I hope you don't get that from my post above, I am interested in all manner of minds, theist, or atheist, whatever, I find it interesting how people have come to either deny, or accept, a deity in their lives.




Naw you don't come off as rude.

How did all the matter in the universe come to be? It just appeared out of nothing and created itself an unfathomable amount of mass and energy?
How or why did inanimate particles come to be animate living being? These subatomic particles came together to atoms, these atoms came together to form molecules (I understand this) but then these molecules came together and started living resisting the breakdown of entropy.  Having intent to change and shape the world as we know it. Developing thought process, conscious, and soul.  Sure I have read the biology on how scientist think these inanimate molecules started living but I still don't buy it.  Because if I could mix together all the necessary elements into a jar under a whole host of conditions shake this jar for eons and I do not believe I will get life.  I believe a higher power created everything we know and don't know.
DNA is a remarkable thing.  After reading several books about DNA and it's orgins I have no doubts that a God created us.  I do not go to church but I full heartily believe in a God. I mean why not believe in something (obviously a belief that does not involve the killing of others for not believing).  I've never doubted it, but it seems that if I didn't believe in God life would be much more bland and pointless (no offense anyone)  Doesn't mean I know the point to life and why God did all this but I'm sure there's reasons.  Maybe we will find out when we die.  I could go into further detail but I'm pretty busy right now.
I went to a Catholic school growing up.  I thought the religion was way off in the way it conducted beliefs in God(as are most). I'm not trying to press my belief on anyone.  To each thier own.  I have my reasons and I'm sure yall have your own.  Life is good!


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Re: We are all just Wisps of Stardust Bound Together By A Bit of Energy [Re: pinedownpioneer] * 3
    #23935428 - 12/17/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

In the beginning, man created God.....


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Re: We are all just Wisps of Stardust Bound Together By A Bit of Energy [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23936046 - 12/17/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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How did all the matter in the universe come to be? It just appeared out of nothing and created itself an unfathomable amount of mass and energy?







Honestly, I don't think about how the universe came into being, it really doesn't bother me, I don't lose sleep thinking about such things, or what happens after we die, or anything else related to the beginning/end of this existence, it just doesn't concern me at all, I only hope that I can use the remainder of my years on this planet to do something which might allow someone else to overcome some obstacle, I am sure my response is rather boring and anticlimactic, but it's how I feel.

My view is like this, if I research an experiment to do, then do it, I will see results.  If I pray, nothing will happen.  I am human, I need to see results, I need to see actions.


My main issue with religion, is that it seems like it creates more problems rather than solving them


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Re: We are all just Wisps of Stardust Bound Together By A Bit of Energy [Re: Lucis]
    #23936139 - 12/17/16 06:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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    #23936150 - 12/17/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:awesomenod:


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Re: We are all just Wisps of Stardust Bound Together By A Bit of Energy [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23936604 - 12/17/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Not only that, but this mass of stardust and energy must be supplied by a continual stream of energy--our bodies are not in the lowest energy state possible.  Eventually Entropy wins and we die. Since our bodies and those of animals have the same binding energy and are subject to the same laws of physics and entropy, it must be assumed that animals are equal to humans.  Therefore, animals are entitled to a soul as much as we are, which isn't possible in classical magical being (religious) thought. 

By this reasoning, Buddhists are correct.  Therefore, I just saved you all years wasted obtaining a degree in Theology.

There is no God. :smirk:





garbage is also made of stardust. now lets just allow that to sink in a moment


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