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How would you define someone who "has their life together"?
#23934200 - 12/17/16 01:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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And how would you define someone who doesn't? Can you list some specific things that one of these types of people would do or not do?
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Celestial Traveler] 2
#23934249 - 12/17/16 01:31 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looking forward to reading a lot of unrealistic expectations and snobby answers...
If you can take care of yourself, and do so honestly without hurting others (like without stealing for example) Ideally have some notable accomplishments, a not giving up attitude and youre ever working towards improving quality of life.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Mush 4 Brains] 5
#23934253 - 12/17/16 01:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you wear grills you have it together
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Sheekle]
#23934257 - 12/17/16 01:36 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Without a doubt. That or a jewl encrusted gold goblet works.
But for real you should in my book also be kind, good, sympathetic of others pain and not constantly in the pursuit of crack rock
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#23934265 - 12/17/16 01:40 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anyone opposite of me has their shit together.
(Dropped out last semester, jobless, losing friends, girlfriend not much better, lost house, savings)
My shit is NOT together, not even close.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Sheekle]
#23934271 - 12/17/16 01:44 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sheekle said: If you wear grills you have it together
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Celestial Traveler] 2
#23934274 - 12/17/16 01:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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House, job, car, healthcare
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
#23934281 - 12/17/16 01:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Most babies I've met have their lives together.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23934296 - 12/17/16 02:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you can live your life the way you want to without the help of others, then I'd say you have your life together
And like Sheek said, having a grill is a good starting point
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
#23934300 - 12/17/16 02:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I_was_the_walrus said: House, job, car, healthcare
bullshit.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Niffla]
#23934301 - 12/17/16 02:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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your life is together when you're able.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23934312 - 12/17/16 02:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said:
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I_was_the_walrus said: House, job, car, healthcare
bullshit.
How so
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#23934338 - 12/17/16 02:40 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It depends on your goals...
At a minimum I would say: Paying your own way honestly, free from hard drugs and other self-destructive habits, and being relatively content.
For me there are a few other requisites.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
#23934349 - 12/17/16 02:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said:
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I_was_the_walrus said: House, job, car, healthcare
bullshit.
How so
because my answer is better and less convoluted, and the simplest answer is usually the right one- Occam's razor.
a house is not necessary. for example, an apartment can do just fine, if someone is able to have their life there. a job, same difference. a car (that's laughable), same difference. clearly you have just postulated some stuff that you have and said to yourself "you need these things otherwise you've got nothing to offer".
and healthcare, that's also not even something someone can procure just for themselves, unless you're talking about having food and shelter from the elements, in order to care for your health not being extinguished.
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Paying your own way honestly
rather ambiguous, but i'd tend to agree with the figurative notion here. if you can recompense someone for helping do something, that's the proper way to live.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma] 3
#23934363 - 12/17/16 02:56 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sounds to me like youre just trying to justify why you dont have your shit together.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: I_was_the_walrus] 2
#23934367 - 12/17/16 03:00 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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the phrase "have your shit together" is a meaningless arbitrary contumely castigation of people around one whom doesn't fit into your world-view of what people "should have" to be "together".
thanks to people like you, the roads are congested, the housing market is overpriced garbage filled with subprime mortgages, and the job market is flooded with endless drunken louses working for piddling. congrats.
but it's still as i said, just a bunch of a bullshit. but feel good about your "life being together", i mean at least you're not drowning in the bottom of a barrel anymore...your statement is still bullshit, however. you just like to feel good about your minor acheivements and boil your success down to an easy equation, and you must think, according to your statements, that if someone does have those arbitrary things, those notions you hold, they must not have their life together.
and i know you love threads like this, because again...no more drowning so you gotta make that known somehow. don't you?
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23934376 - 12/17/16 03:06 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I ride the bus to work. I do have healthcare, as provided by employment. I dont own a house. The job market is flooded, but when hasnt it been? I dont see how these things are my fault. There are certain things I would like to have in life, and sometimes you gotta jump through hoops to make it happen. Choose your battles.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
#23934380 - 12/17/16 03:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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see, that statement isn't bullshit. 
so i don't feel the need to call it out as such.
basically, since, according to you, your own needs not being "met" by your own standard, i'm happy to inform you that your original statement was bullshit.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23934385 - 12/17/16 03:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh no, not at all. I stand by my claim. Im just admitting I dont have my shit together. And it sounds like you dont either
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
#23934393 - 12/17/16 03:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Paying your own way honestly
rather ambiguous, but i'd tend to agree with the figurative notion here. if you can recompense someone for helping do something, that's the proper way to live.
It has to be vague. If you run a business by exploiting your workers, the public or the ecosystem, that isnt an honest living. Its a big subject on its own, so I left it vague.
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I_was_the_walrus said: Sounds to me like youre just trying to justify why you dont have your shit together.
I dont see it that way, you can have your situation levelled out living in a shack in the woods if thats really what you want to do. Being personal goals I understand your priorities, but I dont think Akira is being disingenuous.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
#23934404 - 12/17/16 03:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I_was_the_walrus said: Oh no, not at all. I stand by my claim. Im just admitting I dont have my shit together. And it sounds like you dont either 
my shit is together, i'm able to do anything i please and that is asked of me within reason.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Repertoire89]
#23934407 - 12/17/16 03:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I dont think he is either, but everything about this question is subjective. You want a half-baked opinion..you get one.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Repertoire89]
#23934408 - 12/17/16 03:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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a bum does not have his shit together.
A working person does. If u can provide for yourself in some way that doesnt bum off others, than u got your life together.
Also, people with some kind of realistic goals or life plans has their shit together as they are trying to achieve something important to them.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Repertoire89]
#23934417 - 12/17/16 03:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Paying your own way honestly
rather ambiguous, but i'd tend to agree with the figurative notion here. if you can recompense someone for helping do something, that's the proper way to live.
It has to be vague. If you run a business by exploiting your workers, the public or the ecosystem, that isnt an honest living. Its a big subject on its own, so I left it vague.
payment has the connotation regarding monetary value. i'd prefer the term recompense, as it just simply states that one has to have some reciprocation in their word and deed, when regarding the world around them, including (but not embraced by) people.
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I dont see it that way, you can have your situation levelled out living in a shack in the woods if thats really what you want to do. Being personal goals I understand your priorities, but I dont think Akira is being disingenuous.
people should take a note from the paleo-psychology of man, and learn how to function without the systems that provide for them- but they can't. so hence human's are prone to dissatisfaction and disease of the mind.
to put it bluntly.
and people love to assert their dominion over that which they are dissatisfied with, which leads to war...of the senses, of emotions, and of weaponry.
insomnia sucks.
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I_was_the_walrus said: I dont think he is either, but everything about this question is subjective. You want a half-baked opinion..you get one.
everything we do is subjective. all language/communication is subjective. all understanding is based in and around subjectivity. so, by your conviction, i'd say that all these things are half-baked notions.
which is why having your shit together is simpler than you claim.
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LogicaL Chaos said: a bum does not have his shit together.
a bum has more of his shit together -- because he manipulates the world around him, and survives, without kowtowing to bosses and ideologues -- than someone who doesn't manifest the reality he can encompass without need or want.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23934431 - 12/17/16 03:40 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you're in your teens--if you have a job, any job, doesn't matter what it is whether you are a cashier or hostess or whatever, and you graduated high school, then you have your shit together.
If you're in your 20's--if you have a job, and/or go to college, pay all your bills on time, and don't live with your parents, even if it's with roommates, then you have your shit together.
If you're only working part-time at Denny's and don't have health insurance and you're couch surfing at your friend's pad at age 27, then you don't have your shit together. That's good and fine to do if you're 19 or 20, but by the time you're 25 you should really be taking steps to make your life better and be a responsible human.
If you're in your 30's--if you have your own apartment or townhouse or home, have an impressive resume and decently-paying career, and you have a good credit score, then you have your shit together.
Sadly I still see many people even in their mid-30's still living with roommates. It's an unfortunate reality given the horrendous economic situation, but that's why I consider somebody in their 30's who owns their own mortgage or at least their own apartment or condo or something to be particularly "well put together," moreso than the average person.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#23934434 - 12/17/16 03:44 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Its interesting how our answers reflect our own needs, since its basically a subjective question.
On that note, I also have to be in good shape, meditating regularly and satisfied with my musical repertoire.
Edit: Few people would meet my musical or meditative standards, theyre subjective, so if I were to project those standards as an expectation, everyone would fall short in some area. Its one reason I dont take peoples expectations seriously, because they dont meet mine, so its necessary to let things ride past a certain point.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Repertoire89]
#23934438 - 12/17/16 03:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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there ya go. same here, save the shape and meditation. i don't meditate but i have been concentrating on the spiritual-side of things, nonetheless- so that's good. my health has been neglected though...i am not really feeling the requisite proposition as demonstrable at the moment- been having headaches. probably too much caffeine.
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and don't live with your parents
silly notion. everyone should try to live with their parents and their parents should try to be anything more than selfish pieces of shit about it.
the planet is overpopulated and the spread of this makes things more difficult everyday, in terms of feeding, clothing, and having work for people to survive.
funny that, considering most of you just insist that if you're not working you must be some kind of vestige of an inactive torso that wriggles around like a shaking quark; quantum- both physical and sometimes not, and then sometimes just a series of mechanistic actions with no known cause, but at least you can feel something- and then sometimes not.
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Few people would meet my musical or meditative standards, theyre subjective, so if I were to project those standards as an expectation, everyone would fall short in some area. Its one reason I dont take peoples expectations seriously, because they dont meet mine, so its necessary to let things ride past a certain point.
good theorem to live by.
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#23934442 - 12/17/16 03:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said: a bum has more of his shit together -- because he manipulates the world around him, and survives, without kowtowing to bosses and ideologues -- than someone who doesn't manifest the reality he can encompass without need or want.
There is absolutely no way I would think that I had my life together if I was a bum. Literally all I would probably think about all day is what a train wreck I am, and how on earth did I ever manage to get here in this position.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23934443 - 12/17/16 03:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Honestly, it is all about your path. If you are not happy with what you are doing in life than I believe you should go elswehere!
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Crystal G]
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Crystal G said: There is absolutely no way I would think that I had my life together if I was a bum. Literally all I would probably think about all day is what a train wreck I am, and how on earth did I ever manage to get here in this position.
living with your parents =/= bum
your statement is bullshit. sorry.
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Rhizohunter said: Honestly, it is all about your path. If you are not happy with what you are doing in life than I believe you should go elswehere!
LOL
laughable.
so when you're unhappy, what? just go away. don't deal...but just disappear. is that why you disappeared?
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23934448 - 12/17/16 04:00 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: There is absolutely no way I would think that I had my life together if I was a bum. Literally all I would probably think about all day is what a train wreck I am, and how on earth did I ever manage to get here in this position.
living with your parents =/= bum
your statement is bullshit. sorry.
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Rhizohunter said: Honestly, it is all about your path. If you are not happy with what you are doing in life than I believe you should go elswehere!
LOL
laughable.
so when you're unhappy, what? just go away. don't deal...but just disappear. is that why you disappeared?
I believe that until you do what you are going to do within your life.... that you should enhance it
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23934451 - 12/17/16 04:04 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said: silly notion. everyone should try to live with their parents and their parents should try to be anything more than selfish pieces of shit about it.
People do live with their parents... pretty much for the first 20 years of their lives. It's important for children to spread their wings and fly away and start living their own lives at some point in their lives.
Now if you want to do it at age 25 instead of age 20, then that's perfectly fine, as some people mature at faster rates than others.
But eventually children need to leave the nest, in order to gain independence and develop the skills necessary for survival and self-reliance.
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the planet is overpopulated and the spread of this makes things more difficult everyday, in terms of feeding, clothing, and having work for people to survive.
What does overpopulation of the planet have to do with moving out of your parent's house? It's not like there's a shortage in the real estate market.
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funny that, considering most of you just insist that if you're not working you must be some kind of vestige of an inactive torso that wriggles around like a shaking quark of quantum- both physical and sometimes not, and then sometimes just a series of mechanistic actions with no known cause, but at least you can feel something- and then sometimes not.
Non-profit or volunteer work is perfectly acceptable and in fact far more admirable than working. Being a stay-at-home parent is also perfectly acceptable, you're in charge of raising a human being and taking care of the household chores. Being a university or grad school student is also acceptable, you're studying and attending classes.
Everything that I just listed, that's all work. Unpaid work is still work.
But otherwise, if you're not doing either of these things, then what exactly are you doing in your free time?
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
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Crystal G said: There is absolutely no way I would think that I had my life together if I was a bum. Literally all I would probably think about all day is what a train wreck I am, and how on earth did I ever manage to get here in this position.
living with your parents =/= bum
your statement is bullshit. sorry.
When I said "bum," I'm literally talking about a homeless person.
And yes, you should feel shame if you're in your 30's and still unemployed and living with your parents and have absolutely no plans on building your life. Unless you have a disability or some other serious excuse, you should be embarrassed.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Crystal G]
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Crystal G said: There is absolutely no way I would think that I had my life together if I was a bum. Literally all I would probably think about all day is what a train wreck I am, and how on earth did I ever manage to get here in this position.
living with your parents =/= bum
your statement is bullshit. sorry.
When I said "bum," I'm literally talking about a homeless person.
And yes, you should feel shame if you're in your 30's and still unemployed and living with your parents and have absolutely no plans on building your life. Unless you have a disability or some other serious excuse, you should be embarrassed.
Do I have an esxcuse then?
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Rhizohunter]
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I don't know, I don't know your life? Do you have a disability?
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Crystal G] 1
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yeah I guess y'all could do all this other stuff that y'all are talking about
or you could just do what sheek said and get yourself a gold grill and be done with it
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Crystal G]
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Crystal G said: I don't know, I don't know your life? Do you have a disability?
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Crystal G]
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Crystal G said: And yes, you should feel shame if you're in your 30's and still unemployed and living with your parents and have absolutely no plans on building your life. Unless you have a disability or some other serious excuse, you should be embarrassed.
you should be embarrassed & reproofed for adhering shamelessly virus-like to your Catch-22 bullshit.
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But eventually children need to leave the nest, in order to gain independence and develop the skills necessary for survival and self-reliance.
no they don't. you can learn those things without doing that. you're just assuming bullshit. faultily.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
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maybe i'm just high but yall's debate got me like
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Niffla]
#23934477 - 12/17/16 04:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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people want to assume (make-believe) that they're better than they are -- it's funny.
i can talk shit too...watch...if you've ever shot drugs into your vaglips, you're a failure at life and have hit new lows in human depravity...same if you've rubbed menstrual blood any where as a form of expression or sexuality.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23934484 - 12/17/16 04:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's obvious akira has taken this thread wayyyyy too personally because he's jobless living with mum and dad.... and apparently has no plans to change or improve.
When I said "you" I was referring to the general "you," not YOU specifically. No need to lash out because you feel inferior.
It's obvious a part of you is embarrassed deep down, because if you weren't, you wouldn't react so strongly the way you are right now.
And by the way my life is nowhere near "put together" based on my own criteria, so this is clearly not about trying to make myself seem better than anybody. Even I fail miserably according to my own standards. I based that criteria based on where I would ideally like to be, if my life WERE put together.
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no they don't. you can learn those things without doing that.
Okay, how do you learn survival and self-reliance if you've never worked a day in your life, your cell phone bills and health insurance gets paid for, your dad is always giving you $20 any time you want to go do something, and your mom is always cooking meals for you and doing laundry for you? I mean when you have everything paid for, you don't even have any concept of money or financial management skills.
And again, when I say "you," I'm referring to the general you, not YOU you, so don't take this so personally. I don't know for a fact who you've worked for or who you live with.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Crystal G]
#23934486 - 12/17/16 04:31 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's obvious akira has taken this thread wayyyyy too personally because he's jobless living with mum and dad.... and apparently has no plans to change or improve.
change? people don't change; things change; the people just come with the territory.
nor is my improvement predicated on your ridiculously simplistic notions. you've just shown your true ignorance. congrats.
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When I said "you" I was referring to the general "you," not YOU specifically. No need to lash out because you feel inferior.
laughable.
i'm not feeling anything by way of your comments. i'm just explaining how your statements are bullshit. you seem to be reacting out of a common dislike for such a reality being a given.
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It's obvious a part of you is embarrassed deep down, because if you weren't, you wouldn't react so strongly the way you are right now.
i'm unperturbed by your comments. i am only relaying the facts to you. humanity should be embarrassed. not me.
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And by the way my life is nowhere near "put together" based on my own criteria, so this is clearly not about trying to make myself seem better than anybody. Even I fail miserably according to my own standards. I based that criteria based on where I would ideally like to be, if my life WERE put together.
your standards are unbearable.
being able is the best way to define "whom has their life together".
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23934489 - 12/17/16 04:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said: change? people don't change; things change.
That's, um, wrong. People do change. Somebody in their 40's is quite likely going to be a completely different person from who they were when they were 14. Or when they were 6. Change is a part of growing up. Change is a part of life.
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nor is my improvement predicated on your ridiculously simplistic notions. you've just shown your true ignorance. congrats.
So, what IS your improvement based on? Are you trying to build a better personality? Are you trying to increase your brain power? Are you trying to get healthier physically? Exactly what skills and tools are you utilizing each day to better yourself then, either physically, mentally, or emotionally?
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Crystal G]
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That's, um, wrong. People do change. Somebody in their 40's is quite likely going to be a completely different person from who they were when they were 14. Or when they were 6. Change is a part of growing up. Change is a part of life.
they didn't change. the territory changed. their reality and feelings are conditional.
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So, what IS your improvement based on?
logic, ideas, concepts, creation, a personal redress and equity in balance with nature.
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Are you trying to build a better personality? Are you trying to increase your brain power? Are you trying to get healthier physically? Exactly what skills and tools are you utilizing each day to better yourself then, either physically, mentally, or emotionally?
yes. yes. yes. i am using the power of creation, music, poetry, art, persistence, study of knowledge and perception, mental and physical games, controlling my emotions, and imparting my abilities. building. counter-balancing in a healthy manner with the world around me.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23934500 - 12/17/16 04:47 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Job, able to pay bills and have extra money, vehicle, place to live? I finally feel like my shit is coming together/
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: LSDollar]
#23934503 - 12/17/16 04:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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that's sad.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23934504 - 12/17/16 04:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said: logic, ideas, concepts, creation, a personal redress and equity in balance with nature.
yes. yes. yes. i am using the power of creation, music, poetry, art, persistence, study of knowledge and perception, mental and physical games, controlling my emotions, and imparting my abilities. building. counter-balancing in a healthy manner with the world around me.
Okay, so you make music, poetry, art, and build things? How many hours a day would you say you spend doing these things? What's like the breakdown of a typical day's schedule for you?
Is there one thing in particular, like music or crafts or surfing or whatever it is, that you would say that you're really immensely good at, and could even possibly capitalize on if you were motivated enough? Or are you kind of scatter-brained and aloof and you spend 20 minutes here and there tinkering and doing random things, but never really getting good at any one thing?
Is there any reason you don't send your artwork into art shows and competitions?
I'm just curious and asking a bunch of questions, because I'd like to know where you're coming from.
Have you ever worked before? Have you always lived with your parents?
There were times in my life in my 20's when I was out of work periodically and had to move back in with my parents, and it was something I never felt happy about... so I'm just curious how, (if you are in a similar situation), how do you feel at peace with this type of living situation? Is this something you could see yourself doing and even aspire to do all the way into your 40's? Howcome you don't feel the urge to ever leave, is it too cushy and nice at your parent's house or something?
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Crystal G]
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Niffla]
#23934524 - 12/17/16 05:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay, how do you learn survival and self-reliance if you've never worked a day in your life, your cell phone bills and health insurance gets paid for, your dad is always giving you $20 any time you want to go do something, and your mom is always cooking meals for you and doing laundry for you? I mean when you have everything paid for, you don't even have any concept of money or financial management skills. And again, when I say "you," I'm referring to the general you, not YOU you, so don't take this so personally. I don't know for a fact who you've worked for or who you live with.
it's ok, none of this is personal.
financial skills are the bare-bone minimum of any kind of survival...in fact, it's antithetical to survival-skills.
you learn survival by being able.
people are in a collective species of individuals, whom if they were decided in working alone, without the collective, they'd be mince meat.
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Okay, so you make music, poetry, art, and build things? How many hours a day would you say you spend doing these things? What's like the breakdown of a typical day's schedule for you?
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Is there one thing in particular, like music or crafts or surfing or whatever it is, that you would say that you're really immensely good at, and could even possibly capitalize on if you were motivated enough? Or are you kind of scatter-brained and aloof and you spend 20 minutes here and there tinkering and doing random things, but never really getting good at any one thing?
i can capitalize on anything i wish, or at least that's the concept within a capitalist society. of course i can capitalize on my music, i just never bothered because it wasn't ever meant to be about making money- though the landscape, as it were, is changing.
also my poetry, that's the plan anyway. crafts too.
and yeah, i'm scatter-brained, but also immensely hyperfocused. i just simply don't have an automatic one-track mind, i've done work to be able to focus on more than a narrow bandwidth of reality. i am ambivalent about the implications that i need to be focused, because what people focus on is usually boring and/or masquerading.
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Is there any reason you don't send your artwork into art shows and competitions?
visual arts is new to me, and i have been precluded in having time to work on it as much as i'd like, but it's liable to be given precedence (and perhaps preeminence) in the future- i am not a psychic, so i can't say for sure if that's the case.
my poetry, i've sent once, when i first started writing it, to Poetry magazine (it was amateurish of me to presume they'd even possibly consider taking it, because i rush headlong into things, i didn't know that they are basically one of the biggest and most important poetry magazines since the time of Yeats (who was published there). i am working now on improving my skills, learning where i'm coming from with my work, and plan on submitting better work on a later date specifically for them- like i wrote my poem Rattimer The Cat to send to them as a more professional work...i don't know if i've surpassed that poem, but it was designed to be in-depth in it's look into my narrative abilities within poetry, and my ability to do a more formal scansion and a more basis on rhyme.
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I'm just curious and asking a bunch of questions, because I'd like to know where you're coming from.
Have you ever worked before? Have you always lived with your parents?
i've worked uselessly before and it never got me anywhere, and i decide not to repeat the experience. yes, i've always lived with my parents. good for me. i don't have to worry about dumb shit, and then propound on how independent i am, whilst still relying on everyone else to make society function, albeit regardless if i exist or not.
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There were times in my life in my 20's when I was out of work periodically and had to move back in with my parents, and it was something I never felt happy about... so I'm just curious how, (if you are in a similar situation), how do you feel at peace with this type of living situation? Is this something you could see yourself doing and even aspire to do all the way into your 40's? Howcome you don't feel the urge to ever leave, is it too cushy and nice at your parent's house or something?
there is no reason to leave. i've established myself here. i've been through pain, and have caused pain. no longer does this occur- my mom and step-dad are quite the saints. nwo they are perfectly happy with me here, aside from the notions that i am not supposed to be so miserable, and supposed to find happiness in some hopeful unreality; but besides that, we get along fine, and i am pretty helpful to them, if they want to make a big deal about the small things that they functionally concern themselves with, and then i can help to tell my mother when she's worrying about fruitless endeavors. she doesn't listen, so by now i just laugh it off, because she knows how much crap she tends to purchase that has no practical use, which things she ends up leaving unused anyways. a very superficial person. she recent redecorated her room, it looks really nice...but then she wasted all this time on buying boxes for her make-up, make-up which she decided to hang herself up about thanks to the retarded beauty gurus on the internet, which she's frankly new to, so i don't blame her, but i do laugh inside. same thing with the damn mini-sauna. boy what a piece of junk.
and no, i don't aspire to live with my parents forever. i think 30 is actually approaching pretty fast.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Crystal G] 1
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akira_akuma said: a bum has more of his shit together -- because he manipulates the world around him, and survives, without kowtowing to bosses and ideologues -- than someone who doesn't manifest the reality he can encompass without need or want.
There is absolutely no way I would think that I had my life together if I was a bum. Literally all I would probably think about all day is what a train wreck I am, and how on earth did I ever manage to get here in this position.
I agree with Crystal.
Only Akira can make a bum seem like a sucessful hero
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23934534 - 12/17/16 05:19 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said: it's ok, none of this is personal.
financial skills are the bare-bone minimum of any kind of survival...in fact, it's antithetical to survival-skills.
you learn survival by being able.
people are in a collective species of individuals, whom if they were decided in working alone, without the collective, they'd be mince meat.
Well, yes, that's true. I'm referring to survival in a collective society, not survival out in the wilderness.
So then does that mean you know how to survive out in the wilderness? You know how to make your own antibiotics from scratch, grow your own food, open a can without a can opener, and light a fire without a match?
Let's say your parents died tomorrow and your home was foreclosed on, how would you survive, is what I'm trying to ask? Would you go out into the wilderness and start foraging and building shelter?
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i can capitalize on anything i wish, or at least that's the concept within a capitalist society. of course i can capitalize on my music, i just never bothered because it wasn't ever meant to be about making money- though the landscape, as it were, is changing.
also my poetry, that's the plan anyway. crafts too.
and yeah, i'm scatter-brained, but also immensely hyperfocused. i just simply don't have an automatic one-track mind, i've done work to be able to focus on more than a narrow bandwidth of reality. i am ambivalent about the implications that i need to be focused, because what people focus on is usually boring and/or masquerading.
So... just curious. Regarding poetry, music, and crafts, what level would you say you're at in regards to these things? Are you beginner level? Intermediate level? Advanced level? Professional level? Because I'm assuming you're getting better and better over time. If you spend a significant amount of time every day doing these things, you must be at advanced or close to professional level, right?
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i've worked uselessly before and it never got me anywhere, and i decide not to repeat the experience. yes, i've always lived with my parents. good for me. i don't have to worry about dumb shit, and then propound on how independent i am, whilst still relying on everyone else to make society function, albeit regardless if i exist or not.
You do realize though, that you can't rely on your parents for the rest of your life.... I mean, your parents will eventually retire one day (probably pretty soon I imagine), and they'll likely die a lot sooner than you. Do you have any kind of plan set up for when that happens? Have you ever thought about what you would do then?
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akira_akuma said: a bum has more of his shit together -- because he manipulates the world around him, and survives, without kowtowing to bosses and ideologues -- than someone who doesn't manifest the reality he can encompass without need or want.
There is absolutely no way I would think that I had my life together if I was a bum. Literally all I would probably think about all day is what a train wreck I am, and how on earth did I ever manage to get here in this position.
I agree with Crystal.
Only Akira can make a bum seem like a sucessful hero 
ain't gonna front the way he described it had me considering quitting my job and going the bum route for a minute
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Well, yes, that's true. I'm referring to survival in a collective society, not survival out in the wilderness.
So then does that mean you know how to survive out in the wilderness? You know how to make your own antibiotics from scratch, grow your own food, open a can without a can opener, and light a fire without a match?
never had to concern myself with such things, but i'm finding the inclination, recently, more satisfying- concerning that the world could go to shit, i feel like those skills might be important. gunpowder, and sulphur seems to work as an antiseptic; charcoal seems to work as an emetic. garlic seems to be a good homeopathic substitute for modern antibiotics.
the question is kind of silly though, modern medicine is a great band-aid for mortality, but out in the wilderness there is really no such luck- you suffer. good thing i don't have to worry about that right now; on that note, though, i am planning on learning to grow my own food this year, read up on the subject, and try my hand at it, see if i've got a brown thumb or a green one.
and open a can? cans do not exist in nature, but if i had to open one that i've procured from mankind i would bash it open with as functional a rock (sharp but not too sharp) as i could find, and try to avoid metal shavings getting into the contents. building a fire? with no modern tools, you mean? no, but i'd like to try my hand at it...i've seen Survivorman; it seems with persistence you could manage with two sticks and some tinder- though there apparently plenty of methods.
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Let's say your parents died tomorrow and your home was foreclosed on, how would you survive, is what I'm trying to ask? Would you go out into the wilderness and start foraging and building shelter?
well, that wouldn't happen very likely, but no, i wouldn't do such a thing, it's not practical- i'd simply find work and make my way from there- find a motel to stay at, or if necessary, postulate that if i could shower i could find work, and some could either help me out with that, or i'd have to find other means to get presentable, so i can pay for a gym membership, so i could access to facilities- then work my up to a hotel, or an apartment dwelling. but more than likely i'd have money to make due with for a short period of time, i'd just have to bust my ass and not complain. employers love that sort of thing.
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So... just curious. Regarding poetry, music, and crafts, what level would you say you're at in regards to these things? Are you beginner level? Intermediate level? Advanced level? Professional level? Because I'm assuming you're getting better and better over time. If you spend a significant amount of time every day doing these things, you must be at advanced or close to professional level, right?
as an autodidact who quit school, i can say that i'm at the very least intermediate in terms of my poetic writings, going on advanced, if i learn to develop a more formal method (otherwise, i might be considered unlikely for professional work- most poets become teachers, or laureates; unless i end up winning good prize money, i don't see myself becoming accredited). in terms of musicality, i have always improvised, and have always meant to take up lessons in music theory, writing and reading it, but it frankly escapes me to learn it myself, which is disappointing, sure. i'm hoping one day for a break though so i can write music that other people will want to pay, at least; or even better, to learn how to sight read. for now, i can play in a jazz band, or rock band easily. i've always made music on the computer, i've made plenty of it, some of it is available, freely, to hear. i play drums and guitar pretty well- just not good at composing myself, given that the music i've played in the past, with my bands, was based around improvisation and non-melodic elements, as far as i'm concerned. i like experimental music, and noise music, so i took up that mantle, so to speak. i've been integrating more type of music into repertoire, however, since my forte (and biggest distraction) is listening to all the kinds of music there is to hear. in terms of art, like visual art, painting and photography, they are more slow coming, i've only done a few works with paint, and with photography, i am not so invested in without a more traditional sense of the work, ie, film photography- i only have access to a digital camera. but i have been brushing up on my photoshop skills recently, and feel like it's more accessible to me more than ever. i'm hoping to soon start working on recording parts for a black metal album- it suits my current mood; so my photoshopped pics will be going towards making an album art, and such.
then there is the pure study of philosophy and that is freely done, obviously no one gets paid for that, unless they teach or give lectures, or hired for their expertise and are accredited.
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You do realize though, that you can't rely on your parents for the rest of your life.... I mean, your parents will eventually retire one day (probably pretty soon I imagine), and they'll likely die a lot sooner than you. Do you have any kind of plan set up for when that happens? Have you ever thought about what you would do then?
yes, but it's not practicable at this time. not with all the things i am doing. you only have so much time.
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ain't gonna front the way he described it had me considering quitting my job and going the bum route for a minute
it's hip to be square.
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Re: How would you define someone who [Re: akira_akuma]
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Nobody has their life together. Everyone is just winging it. Most people haven't even noticed that this life is a journey from one point to another (like a long train journey perhaps)and just set up camp like it's going to last forever. The only things you take out of this life are internal, and yet people spend their lives amassing wealth and trinkets. Nobody has their life together
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Re: How would you define someone who [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said: never had to concern myself with such things, but i'm finding the inclination, recently, more satisfying- concerning that the world could go to shit, i feel like those skills might be important. gunpowder, and sulphur seems to work as an antiseptic; charcoal seems to work as an emetic. garlic seems to be a good homeopathic substitute for modern antibiotics.
the question is kind of silly though, modern medicine is a great band-aid for mortality, but out in the wilderness there is really no such luck- you suffer. good thing i don't have to worry about that right now; on that note, though, i am planning on learning to grow my own food this year, read up on the subject, and try my hand at it, see if i've got a brown thumb or a green one.
and open a can? cans do not exist in nature, but if i had to open one that i've procured from mankind i would bash it open with as functional a rock (sharp but not too sharp) as i could find, and try to avoid metal shavings getting into the contents. building a fire? with no modern tools, you mean? no, but i'd like to try my hand at it...i've seen Survivorman; it seems with persistence you could manage with two sticks and some tinder- though there apparently plenty of methods.
Okay, now that we've established surviving in the wilderness is a no-go... how would you survive in society if you were independent and alone?
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well, that wouldn't happen very likely, but no, i wouldn't do such a thing, it's not practical- i'd simply find work and make my way from there- find a motel to stay at, or if necessary, postulate that if i could shower i could find work, and some could either help me out with that, or i'd have to find other means to get presentable, so i can pay for a gym membership, so i could access to facilities- then work my up to a hotel, or an apartment dwelling. but more than likely i'd have money to make due with for a short period of time, i'd just have to bust my ass and not complain. employers love that sort of thing.
Why do you think it's not a likely possibility? Old people get laid off or fired all the time. Old people also suddenly drop dead all the time. It could very well happen at any point, and you could be blindsided when it happens.
Motels are actually more expensive than rent, you know.
Wait, so at this point you don't even have like an emergency fund or savings account? Like in case of emergency if something serious happens? You mean to tell me you would literally start from $0 if your home was foreclosed on?
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as an autodidact who quit school, i can say that i'm at the very least intermediate in terms of my poetic writings, going on advanced, if i learn to develop a more formal method (otherwise, i might be considered unlikely for professional work- most poets become teachers, or laureates; unless i end up winning good prize money, i don't see myself becoming accredited). in terms of musicality, i have always improvised, and have always meant to take up lessons in music theory, writing and reading it, but it frankly escapes me to learn it myself, which is disappointing, sure. i'm hoping one day for a break though so i can write music that other people will want to pay, at least; or even better, to learn how to sight read. for now, i can play in a jazz band, or rock band easily. i've always made music on the computer, i've made plenty of it, some of it is available, freely, to hear. i play drums and guitar pretty well- just not good at composing myself, given that the music i've played in the past, with my bands, was based around improvisation and non-melodic elements, as far as i'm concerned. i like experimental music, and noise music, so i took up that mantle, so to speak. i've been integrating more type of music into repertoire, however, since my forte (and biggest distraction) is listening to all the kinds of music there is to hear. in terms of art, like visual art, painting and photography, they are more slow coming, i've only done a few works with paint, and with photography, i am not so invested in without a more traditional sense of the work, ie, film photography- i only have access to a digital camera. but i have been brushing up on my photoshop skills recently, and feel like it's more accessible to me more than ever. i'm hoping to soon start working on recording parts for a black metal album- it suits my current mood; so my photoshopped pics will be going towards making an album art, and such.
I see. How many hours a day do you spend doing these things? Either music or art or poetry or other crafts?
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then there is the pure study of philosophy and that is freely done, obviously no one gets paid for that, unless they teach or give lectures, or hired for their expertise and are accredited.
When you say philosophy I'm assuming you mean actual philosophy, right? (Kant, Nietzsche, Loche, Hobbes, Descartes, etc.) Not like "all my thoughts are philosophy, my Shroomery posts are philosophy" kind of jargon, right?
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yes, but it's not practicable at this time. not with all the things i am doing. you only have so much time.
Yes, that's true, but that same adage could be used in the reverse... that you only have so much time before you get old, so that's why it's so important to start building your life while you are still young.
Otherwise one day you will wake up and you will be 45, and just renting a room with a bunch of college students because you never attempted to build your credit, working at Taco Bell because you never went to school or attained any work experience.
Seriously though, that's probably where you're going to start whenever you do decide to become independent. I guess if you're happy being in your 30's and living like that then more power to you, but that's the sort of thing that would really bother me if I was in that situation and living like an 18 year old.
I mean, what are you going to do if you ever impregnate a girl sometime in the future or something? You better pray to the universe that never happens lol...
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Re: How would you define someone who [Re: Crystal G]
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Okay, now that we've established surviving in the wilderness is a no-go... how would you survive in society if you were alone?
maybe you missed the part where i explained that that isn't the reality we live in.
here it is:
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people are in a collective species of individuals, whom if they were decided in working alone, without the collective, they'd be mince meat.
how would there be a society if i were alone? i'd argue there isn't even a society, just coalitions and factions. plus: i said i can learn, and am willing to. certainly able to, because i'm able to do anything if i put my mind to it. i'm a human. the only thing i can't do is cure death, and find "God".
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Why do you think it's not a likely possibility? Old people get laid off or fired all the time. Old people also suddenly drop dead all the time. It could very well happen at any point, and you could be blindsided when it happens.
if they need financial support, i'd be more than happy to start working in a way that's functional to my production of goods. perhaps start a business, if i really don't like the 9-5. perhaps even part time work would be fine. i don't know, i've never had to concern myself with helping my parents out financially, my step-dad works for a company, and also owns his own business on the side- he's never needed my help with anything. -- and yes, i could be blindsided...so?
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Motels are actually more expensive than rent, you know.
thankfully i don't have a record then. like i said, it'd be a temporary stay so i can shower and shave.
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Wait, so at this point you don't even have like an emergency fund or savings account? Like in case of emergency if something serious happens? You mean to tell me you would literally start from $0 if your home was foreclosed on?
other than the fiduciary split will with my step-dad's son, yep. i'm not afraid to ask for help to get on my feet- i'm a good house cleaning, and keep to myself. some minor changes in the environment are not going to prevent me from existing; and i'm not too worried about it. we all die anyway.
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I see. How many hours a day do you spend doing these things? Either music or art or poetry or other crafts?
whenever it's necessary for my well-being. mostly i stick to philosophy, it feeds me the most, as i deal with inanition, Weltschmerz, and sometimes ennui, because the world doesn't often nearly satisfy me enough. i'm working on it.
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When you say philosophy I'm assuming you mean actual philosophy, right? (Kant, Nietzsche, Loche, Hobbes, Descartes, etc.) Not like "all my thoughts are philosophy, my Shroomery posts are philosophy" kind of jargon, right?
i read the philosophers and have studied them- yes, all my thoughts that are on philosophy are philosophical in nature, and it is often dispensed here, in the form of posts. i am a relative occultist and obscurant, i guess you could say. i don't find meaning in being practical, i am probably the most impractical person in existence- at least that i know of- nonpareil of impracticality.
Antisthenes and Diogenes are probably the quintessence of my outlook.
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Yes, that's true, but that same adage could be used in the reverse... that you only have so much time before you get old, so that's why it's so important to start building your life while you are still young.
thanks for your concern but we don't need to reverse the angle- you can choose to but it makes no difference in the long run. i often do not enjoy my time to the extent that i am happy, but like i said, i'm working on it. mostly i am excited about the prospects that are on the table, however, and am good at coping- just have no interest outside of what i do now, mainly. that might become harder in the near-future to do, however, and i'm aware of that fact.
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Otherwise one day you will wake up and you will be 45, and just renting a room with a bunch of college students because you never attempted to build your credit, working at Taco Bell because you never went to school or attained any work experience.
if i have no purpose in life then i will simply end it. if i can't find purpose with that outset of being dropped into the grinder, as it were, then i am fine living out of doors.
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Seriously though, that's probably where you're going to start whenever you do decide to become independent. I guess if you're happy being in your 30's and living like that then more power to you, but that's the sort of thing that would really bother me if I was in that situation and living like an 18 year old.
everyone is living like an 18 year old. you think just because you have some things you're all grown up. well, soon you'll be back to 18 again, in that case,...no, even worse, you'll be back to shitting your pants and needing someone to clean it up for you.
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I mean, what are you going to do if you ever impregnate a girl sometime in the future or something?
that's different. obviously different. if i had to support a family, my life would have to become more practical. i'm not going to have a kid and then just sit on my ass while mommy breastfeeds it.
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Re: How would you define someone who [Re: akira_akuma]
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Having your shit together:
- Having steady and sufficient income for food, shelter, bills, entertainment and hobbies - Owning a house - Not take the bus - Having a passion in life - Having 2 reliable friends - Getting sex regularly - Be on good terms with your family - Contribute to society - Have an interest in world affairs
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Re: How would you define someone who [Re: Patlal]
#23934626 - 12/17/16 06:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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basically have everything a human needs to merely subsist in their meaningless dredging of hope and you've got "shit together"- while the world suffers it's torment.
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Re: How would you define someone who [Re: akira_akuma]
#23934636 - 12/17/16 06:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said: maybe you missed the part where i explained that that isn't the reality we live in.
here it is:
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people are in a collective species of individuals, whom if they were decided in working alone, without the collective, they'd be mince meat.
how would there be a society if i were alone? i'd argue there isn't even a society, just coalitions and factions. plus: i said i can learn, and am willing to. certainly able to, because i'm able to do anything if i put my mind to it. i'm a human. the only thing i can't do is cure death, and find "God".
*sigh* You know what I meant when I said alone. By "alone" I mean not dependent on your parents, as in independent from them, but you are still in society. What would you do to survive in that case?
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if they need financial support, i'd be more than happy to start working in a way that's functional to my production of goods. perhaps start a business, if i really don't like the 9-5. perhaps even part time work would be fine. i don't know, i've never had to concern myself with helping my parents out financially, my step-dad works for a company, and also owns his own business on the side- he's never needed my help with anything. -- and yes, i could be blindsided...so?
How do you start a business with absolutely no working capital or collateral to use for a loan?
Your step-dad doesn't mind you living there at your age? Does he ever get bothered or say something at times? He never encourages you or hints at you or gives you advice to move out or start making your own life?
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whenever it's necessary for my well-being.
See, that answer kind of tells me that you're not really that serious about any of your hobbies. It's just something you wander on over to and do for a few minutes, whenever you feel like, and then after a couple days you get bored and move on to something else. Seems like you're just breezing through doing whatever you want whenever you want, with really no goal. Is that accurate?
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if i have no purpose in life then i will simply end it. if i can't find purpose with that outset of being dropped into the grinder, as it were, then i am fine living out of doors.
People always say stuff like that, but then when they get there they realize they'd still like to live. I always swore at age 15 that I'd be dead by age 30 because life is all downhill from here. I'm still here, saying "when I'm SIXTY I'll off myself because it's all REALLY downhill from there." More than likely though at 60 I'll find another reason to live and continue on.
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everyone is living like an 18 year old. you think just because you have some things you're all grown up. well, soon you'll be back to 18 again, in that case,...no, even worse, you'll be back to shitting your pants and needing someone to clean it up for you.
No. Not everybody is living like an 18 year old. Have you ever seen what kind of groceries an 18 year old shops for? Have you ever noticed how much more alcohol an 18 year old consumes? Or how excessively they drink? Have you ever noticed 18 year olds have irregular sleeping habits? So no, clearly not everybody is living like an 18 year old or wants to live anything remotely close to an 18 year old.
"soon you'll be back to 18," lol you mean when you're old and decrepit and need to have somebody change your diapers and help you with your meds? You do realize that happens to most people once they're 80 years old or older, so in the meantime that's basically 50 to 60 years of life that you could be living doing all sorts of things.
Don't you have dreams of traveling or skydiving or trying out new things? Things that maybe cost money. Maybe buy a better system for your music, or get music lessons to improve your skill, something.
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that's different. obviously different. if i had to support a family, my life would have to become more practical. i'm not going to have a kid and then just sit on my ass while mommy breastfeeds it.
Well at least that's good to hear.
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Re: How would you define someone who [Re: Crystal G]
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*sigh* You know what I meant when I said alone. By "alone" I mean not dependent on your parents, as in independent from them, but you are still in society. What would you do to survive in that case?
i explained. i'd then manage with what i can find for work, and money would probably become more of a concern then, seeing as i'd need it to survive. oh you mean, if i had to live in the woods?
i'd better learn how to make fire, hunt/forage, and make shelter then. i probably going to get into hunting soon, i want to learn some of the basics at least. i have ADHD, there is a hypothesis that we make for good hunter-gatherers- i want to test out that hypothesis. it'd explain a lot, actually.
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How do you start a business with absolutely no working capital or collateral to use for a loan?
i have 0$ now. if my parents were deceased, i'd have some money and could thus start from there. if i can't do my own business, then i'd frankly have no problem looking to find whatever work i can. if no one wants to give me any, oh well. this is why the world is shit, because there are too many people with too much work and not enough of a manner to employ people whom need it.
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Your step-dad doesn't mind you living there at your age? Does he ever get bothered or say something at times? He never encourages you or hints at you or gives you advice to move out or start making your own life?
we've been through it before. so now he doesn't; now he asks me how i'm doing.
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See, that answer kind of tells me that you're not really that serious about any of your hobbies.
that doesn't tell you anything. you don't know me, like you've stated. i basically started a musical coven- the only important thing is music, for that fact- this is the foundation. everything else follows from that. i like to attend to things not as jack-of-all traits, but as a polymath, someone who is insistent on learning all there is to learn. to narrow that prospect down into courses and ultimatums speaks nothing but error to me.
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It's just something you wander on over to and do for a few minutes, whenever you feel like, and then after a couple days you get bored and move on to something else. Seems like you're just breezing through doing whatever you want whenever you want, with really no goal. Is that accurate?
not in the least. i wasted a lot of time trying to convince people to create and record music- they took advantage of that fact; the fact that that's all i wanted to do, and that they had the means to help me (and themselves to the prospect), and they got distracted. once i had a friend punch a hole through my wall because he was told how little he intends (and how i should keep those notions to myself), and i was glad for it. showed me had some character. because of me and him discussing philosophy, he's gained a lot of insight to share with me, and i him, and i can say i played at least some sort of instrumental role in fostering his interests, in audio engineering & media, which he went to school for...now he edits and has a family, a kid. no one else has developed past that. but i have. i expanded my range of interests to include any and everything, because that was my stop-off point. i went, simply, in a different direction.
but no, i take it all very seriously, and set a high standard for myself. my goal in life is not to be set, unlike you. being set is stagnation to me. i'd rather have my journey in life 'up in the air', as it were. i see no problem with that.
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People always say stuff like that, but then when they get there they realize they'd still like to live. I always swore at age 15 that I'd be dead by age 30 because life is all downhill from here. I'm still here, saying "when I'm SIXTY I'll off myself because it's all REALLY downhill from there." More than likely though at 60 I'll find another reason to live and continue on.
of course i'd still like to live- but that doesn't mean i get to.
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No. Not everybody is living like an 18 year old. Have you ever seen what kind of groceries an 18 year old shops for? Have you ever noticed how much more alcohol an 18 year old consumes? Or how excessively they drink? Have you ever noticed 18 year olds have irregular sleeping habits? So no, clearly not everybody is living like an 18 year old or wants to live anything remotely close to an 18 year old.
those are all things that 18 year olds like. save the sleeping habits, that is just a matter of constructive planning. irrelevant to the issue at hand here.
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"soon you'll be back to 18," lol you mean when you're old and decrepit and need to have somebody change your diapers and help you with your meds? You do realize that happens to most people once they're 80 years old or older, so in the meantime that's basically 50 to 60 years of life that you could be living doing all sorts of things.
i am living, doing all sorts of things, and more on the way. 
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Don't you have dreams of traveling or skydiving or trying out new things? Things that maybe cost money. Maybe buy a better system for your music, or get music lessons to improve your skill, something.
i've managed so far. but yes, of course i like those things, but i don't dream about them though. (gotta admit, i'm not a big believer in the notion that travel is the epitome of 'good times' and 'learning & finding yourself'; i'm not a proponent of that train of thought. but to have a change of scenery, i can understand that.)
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Well at least that's good to hear.
this is all good, you just can't see the forest for the trees, that is to say, you can't see how i enjoy my own prospects over yours...and the rest of everyone else.
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Re: How would you define someone who [Re: akira_akuma]
#23935344 - 12/17/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Damn, ya'll wrote a 20 page essay here
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Re: How would you define someone who [Re: wicca mixer]
#23935350 - 12/17/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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wicca mixer said: Nobody has their life together. Everyone is just winging it. Most people haven't even noticed that this life is a journey from one point to another (like a long train journey perhaps)and just set up camp like it's going to last forever. The only things you take out of this life are internal, and yet people spend their lives amassing wealth and trinkets. Nobody has their life together 
Well a Buddhist monk might spend their whole life training to accept all circumstances, to be adaptable and ready for anything. Would you say the monks who lit themselves on fire without flinching didnt have their shit together psychologically?
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Celestial Traveler] 1
#23935420 - 12/17/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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To me, having your shit together means knowing your Self, to be genuinely devoted to the pursuit of aiding in the alleviation of the suffering of all sentient beings: compassion.
Of course, it's important to take care of ourselves with shelter and food and all that, but none of that means anything if you're just an asshole.
The most important thing, I think, is to be effective at living compassionately, to aid in the happiness of yourself and others.
As akira has been vociferously yet indirectly debating, having your shit together is going to be based on subjective qualifications, and economic security is certainly not a model of ethical behavior.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Chakra Shock]
#23935904 - 12/17/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes it is subjective. So my opinion holds just as much weight as Akira's.
Akira is a lazy bum who mooches off his parents. As mentioned in one of his posts, his step dad has a problem with it but after getting the defensive akira rambling we are all accustomed to on the shroomery, he doesn't press the issue anymore.
He can sugar coat his reasoning as much as he wants. At the end of the day, it's him...and all of us...just having our own biased opinions.
So when a thread pops up asking people for their opinions about what they think it means to have their life together and the majority all describe similar traits...traits the opposite of Akira, it is no wonder his feathers get so ruffled. But its a little preposterous for him to start the whole thing off with claiming "bullshit".
Akira, I claim Bullshit on your ideologies and defense. 
I don't think you have your life together. Far from it.
You can write me an essay, but we are both entitled to our opinion 
I should note akira, im not trying to be malicious. I don't think you are a bad person or anything.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Masked]
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I agree that your opinion is just as worthwhile as Akira's, but to be fair Akira has some good points. It's not necessarily going out and getting a job at the bottom rung which makes everything better in someone's life.
I do have a job in an entry level position of a big corporation, so I can vouch for how stressful that can be, and if you don't 'need' to do that, then by all means go ahead and avoid it for as long as you can. Yes, he's relying on the kindness of his family to support him, but we all rely on kindness to see us through life. I think he is a valid member of society and that he's just finding his path through life in a way which happens to be slightly different than your way.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Chakra Shock]
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Akira is a lazy bum who mooches off his parents. As mentioned in one of his posts, his step dad has a problem with it but after getting the defensive akira rambling we are all accustomed to on the shroomery, he doesn't press the issue anymore.
his (refers to self in the third person...lol) step dad never received anything like you assume. typical. he has never mentioned anything more than a curiosity over whether i want something more- similar to what Crystal had mentioned. he wasn't saying "he has a problem with it". you don't know shit. in fact, because he's a happy guy, he doesn't care if i stay at home here. sometimes he comes home and is like "here, got something for you". and i'm like "oh cool, that's sweet."
i don't mooch off of anyone.
you really don't know me, my family, or how we interact or what we're like. you've got it in your head that we are our typical shitshow- thing is the shitshow part (teenagers, pft) is over and has been for a long time. my mom tried that shit with me. didn't work. she considers the fact that i've been diagnosed with ADHD (though can't understand it, but nevertheless...) and assumes that i won't do so and so, because i'm lazy -- but this has been proven wrong time and time again, and my step-dad knows it. if i'm told to do something, i have a common rule of thumb...let me do it, but not only on her time-frame, her schedule (and i try and work with her on that but...), she often is a control-freak and feels like everything is out of control when something doesn't get done immediately...that's her problem. she says "might as well do it now", because that's how she operates. she doesn't want anything on 'the list' of things to do, she just wants it all done right away.
well, i don't indulge such notions- ask me, and i'll do it. tell me to do it, i probably won't. insist that i do it, or i'm *insert thing here*, i won't do it, definitely.
try and remind me constantly, when i already said i'd do it...chances are i won't do it.
leave me be, and i'll do it.
it's that simple. she's gotten quite used to it, and she's mostly quite aware that i will- just doesn't always connect in her brain, at times, that that's how things work.
and also, i forgo things easily, when i feel it is either useless, or i've massively tired, which is frequent enough that it happens enough, where i feel i should do better. but it's always about small and insignificant things, like dishes...yeah. dishes. if i'm dead-tired, and have no energy, i will space on things, because i can't find the energy to relegate my time for those things. they are piddling concerns. but if i have the energy, i'll do it without a second thought. i'm not lazy. i have problems keeping piddling tasks in line, because A: i have trouble accumulating energy and sleep (i have insomnia, in case you couldn't tell) and B: if i was to do everything my mom wished of me, she'd have nothing to do. can't tell you how many times she insisted on doing the damn thing that i'm wiling to do, but she says "nah, it's ok, i'll do it."
she needs something to do. not my fault she's a boring person.
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I don't think you have your life together. Far from it.
life doesn't "come together".
misnomer. life is always chaotic and messy.
all of your notions, by all of you (save Chakra's notion of compassion- ethics- which is more accurate than any of the, frankly, bullshit, you guys are pushing), are based on unrealistic expectations, and for the most part, are hand-outs...if you have your "life together" by having job, money, house, car, ect...you've had at least some of those things handed to you. unless you've got all those things at once, already (and aren't just setting those nifty expectations), and you worked for it all yourself, when you do that, then you can give me your shit.
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Yes, he's relying on the kindness of his family to support him, but we all rely on kindness to see us through life. I think he is a valid member of society and that he's just finding his path through life in a way which happens to be slightly different than your way.
essay aside- that pretty much covers it, Chakra. i don't see the problem with getting by and relying on my families kindness, and they are kind. kindest people i know. if i had that stressful corporate job...if i didn't own it, i probably wouldn't bother. i don't take orders very well, and when my initiative doesn't get appreciated (or is cause for reprimand), you know what i'd probably do...quit. probably with a middle finger raised. i don't take kindly to authoritarian bullshit.
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Sugar coat it any way you want...or use adhd as reasoning or excuses....it does nothing for me. All I see is colourful, defensive language
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when you do that, then you can give me your shit.
OK. A stable job, place, things, truck, food, heat, electricity, Internet, phones, money for hobbies, clothes, etc...and all of this not just for me but for kids as well, one that isn't biologically mine(and im not with the mother). Regular fitness routine, fairly clean lifestyle, social life, etc.
I still don't have my life together as much as I'd like, but I've worked for everything I have. I come from nothing.
And I help supplement someone else's income at the moment on top of it all.
I think I can say quite confidently that I have my life together to a much higher standard than you.
But that's just like my opinion man *big lebowski quotes for the win lol*
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Sugar coat it any way you want...or use adhd as reasoning or excuses....it does nothing for me. All I see is colourful, defensive language
thing is, if you can confuse and explanation for an excuse, you have fallacious reasoning and logic...ie, you're lacking logical reasoning, and are full of shit.
plus, i haven't used my ADHD as an excuse or even as a rationalization. i just mentioned it off-hand. see how absolutely full of a dogshit you are? take off the ideological lens and learn to see clearly, without smeared crap over your eyes. 
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But that's just like my opinion man *big lebowski quotes for the win lol*
your opinion is a farce.
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K. A stable job, place, things, truck, food, heat, electricity, Internet, phones, money for hobbies, clothes, etc...and all of this not just for me but for kids as well, one that isn't biologically mine(and im not with the mother). Regular fitness routine, fairly clean lifestyle, social life, etc.
utilities and a stable job, place, truck, food, and money for hobbies (expensive hobbies? really. and what happens when they aren't expensive? are they not hobbies, no, of course they are), you have kids (do i have to knock-up some bitch, leave her, and have the kids piled onto my lap, to be a productive member of society, no, i don't; your dogshit logic reveals itself again) regular fitness routine (again, who cares? nobody), fairly clean lifestyle (not spotless? i, frankly, teeter on spotless, unless i'm too tired to care; when i've got energy though, watch out), social life (again, you need this to be a productive member of society?)
good for you. none of your shit is applicable to me. you're you. i'm me. 
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I still don't have my life together as much as I'd like, but I've worked for everything I have. I come from nothing.
fan-fucking-tastic...so go and "get your life together" (with those lovely expectations that you hold as the standard for everyone else, even though your opinion is dogshit to me- and also based on bullshit, but that's already been established) and understand that A: in my opinion (and in fact) your expectations are still unfulfilled, and based on your idyllic bullshit expectations you still haven't a rationale to be nagging at me, you haven't even got your own life together by your own standard. pathetic. in fact, doubly pathetic.
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And I help supplement someone else's income at the moment on top of it all.
lol, and you hate her. i remember your weepy poem.
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I think I can say quite confidently that I have my life together to a much higher standard than you.
ok, dogshit, but ok. (but don't think so though.) i think my life is a lot moe productive than yours. you've got some things to take care of...doesn't make you productive. you're making your own excuses. if you haven't done "got your life together yo", and you're lecturing me, you're living a life of excuses, and you're projecting. ironic.
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You just confirmed my suspicions:
You "think" you can rationalize why you do have your life together, when in fact you don't.
Your opinion on your bum status can be summed up in one word:
Bullshit
P.s. you DID try to work your adhd into your rationalization. You aren't fooling me lol
All I said is you clearly don't have your life together. You told me that it's likely I have had it handed to me at some point which I explained I didn't. Me having kids or a job or whatever wasn't my reasoning why YOU don't have your life together. I knew you'd try to play that angle. I should have beat you to it...i expected you to say something along the lines of "i need to shit out kids to have my life together". Nope, not what I said or am saying at all.
I think the fact that I can take care of not only my life, but others, including supplementing someone I hate(which how you could use this against me is laughable), shows having ones life together.
You can't even provide the basic necessities or luxuries of daily life for yourself...let alone others. Mommy and daddy pay your way.
Each to there own of course. You have your opinion (its shit IMO) and I have mine.
You do NOT have your life together.
That being said...I've come a long way as a person. In the past, I would judge you heavily for not having your life together according to my personal standards. But as I get older I realize, as Chakra touched on, people have a different perspective on what it means to live life.
You don't seem to be hurting anyway so hey, each to their own man
But when asked on a message board what it means to me to personally have my life together and I answer with similar traits like many before me did...and a grown, jobless man who lives with mom and dad, tells me it's Bullshit...well, of course I'm going to call him on it.
You keep trying to make the lot of us feel like we have some sort of flaw and/or unfulfilled or whatever...all while claiming our opinion is Bullshit. It's absurd akira.
Get a job hippy
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Generally speaking, a good rule of thumb for "having your life together" is whether you would be able to sufficiently raise a kid or not in the situation you are in.
If you would be able to, then you have your life together. But if you wouldn't even be able to buy diapers and send the kid to the doctor, then you don't.
Why? Because how can you be expected to care for a child if you aren't even capable of caring for your own self?
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Masked said: All I said is you clearly don't have your life together. You told me that it's likely I have had it handed to me at some point which I explained I didn't. Me having kids or a job or whatever wasn't my reasoning why YOU don't have your life together. I knew you'd try to play that angle. I should have beat you to it...i expected you to say something along the lines of "i need to shit out kids to have my life together". Nope, not what I said or am saying at all.
I think the fact that I can take care of not only my life, but others, including supplementing someone I hate(which how you could use this against me is laughable), shows having ones life together.
You can't even provide the basic necessities or luxuries of daily life for yourself...let alone others. Mommy and daddy pay your way.
Exactly. We are not saying that people who don't work or don't live on their own are bad people, or are immoral, or are inferior, or anything like that.
But the whole concept of "having your life together" means literally, your life is put together, and you can support oneself.
This isn't a question about ethics or whether somebody is a good person or not, this is a question of being able to look after yourself or not.
I wouldn't consider my life put together if I were a homeless person, even if I were the most moral and ethically conscientious and talented homeless person in the world. Almost nobody would.
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akira_akuma said: the phrase "have your shit together" is a meaningless arbitrary contumely castigation of people around one whom doesn't fit into your world-view of what people "should have" to be "together".
I agree with this, but you're being kindof mean/harsh in this thread. I think most people have a view about what constitutes something along the lines of "having it together" versus "not having it together." Although it's all just a bunch of bullshit that have been crammed down our throats against our will, roundly left unquestioned, and has little or no basis in anything real, I still have to admit that most people have some conception of the idea, and I think it's okay to discuss it. The fault isn't in the person who believes in such an idea, but in the idea itself.
Anyway, I'd say I think of someone as having it together if they have a job and their own place. I think of someone as really having shit together if they own a house. That's about as much as I think about it, and I realize that the idea is total bullshit, so I don't give it much thought.
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P.s. you DID try to work your adhd into your rationalization. You aren't fooling me lol
no, i didn't. i mentioned it as it explains why i am so tired all the time. i wasn't trying to fool you, i just thought you had logic 001 covered and could make inferences based on that logic.
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All I said is you clearly don't have your life together. You told me that it's likely I have had it handed to me at some point which I explained I didn't.
sure you did. your life revolves around the fact (to you) (hyperbole, but it certainly comes across to me that they are important to your sense of "togetherness") that you take care of your kids (that's certainly a part of it, according to your statement), and those were handed to you- you don't own them, and certainly they play a big role in your life being "productive". it's a fine thing. but you didn't "gain" them.
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e having kids or a job or whatever wasn't my reasoning why YOU don't have your life together. I knew you'd try to play that angle. I should have beat you to it...i expected you to say something along the lines of "i need to shit out kids to have my life together". Nope, not what I said or am saying at all.
you =/= me can't you fathom how that plays into your expectations of my "having my life together". (originally, all i had said in this thread was "that statement is bullshit". and it is. none of the people in this thread even has those things they proclaim makes their life together...thing is, as Chakra pointed out [and wasn't there someone else?], this is all subjective-- which is why the statement is bullshit to begin with, and why it's bullshit for people to make expectations for what defines other people's lives being "together".)
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I think the fact that I can take care of not only my life, but others, including supplementing someone I hate(which how you could use this against me is laughable), shows having ones life together.
it shows you can help people get their lives "together", ie, you help them with things in their lives. two different things. the aforementioned tagline is bullshit (as i've made clear). the other thing mentioned here- that is admirable; but it's still not applicable to the selfsame lie of the statement "so and so means you have your life together".
not my fault the statement, in and of itself, is crap.
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You can't even provide the basic necessities or luxuries of daily life for yourself...let alone others. Mommy and daddy pay your way.
negative. i can provide the basic necessities for myself- all i need to do is
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Get a job hippy
luckily, i don't have to worry about that now, and can focus on my work, and on myself, without needing to....
i also have no care for luxuries- that would be different in certain circumstances, but not now...and time is not a fixed construct.
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Each to there own of course. You have your opinion (its shit IMO) and I have mine.
well, we can agree to disagree. but the statement "do you have your life together" is still a fallacious statement of illogical bullshit, and so are your explanations for how you define it, because you don't even live up to your own expectations, how can you expect to lecture me? you can't. you won't succeed, and you can't even hope to be even somewhat correct.
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You do NOT have your life together.
statement is bullshit. i do have my life together. i'm able and willing to live, so my life is "together".
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That being said...I've come a long way as a person. In the past, I would judge you heavily for not having your life together according to my personal standards. But as I get older I realize, as Chakra touched on, people have a different perspective on what it means to live life.
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You don't seem to be hurting anyway so hey, each to their own man
...again. good for you. that's an admirable quality, to not judge people based on your bullshit.
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But when asked on a message board what it means to me to personally have my life together and I answer with similar traits like many before me did...and a grown, jobless man who lives with mom and dad, tells me it's Bullshit...well, of course I'm going to call him on it.
you can try. but i've proven it's bullshit, even if i didn't have to...you've all (who've discussed this with me) admitted that you don't even have "your life together", so you don't even know what the statement entails to make clear "how you'd define someone who 'has their life together'". you just have an assumption. which is why the statement is bullshit. i'm not judging people for it, statements can be bullshit, and sometimes people don't realize it.
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You keep trying to make the lot of us feel like we have some sort of flaw and/or unfulfilled or whatever...all while claiming our opinion is Bullshit. It's absurd akira.
your opinion isn't bullshit. the statement "how do you [define] how someone has their life together", and any combination of that statement, is ultimately faulty, and it is bullshit. and you guys are eating it up. just trying to warn you that your bullshit is not real, and it's always going to lead unrealistic expectations. you don't have to listen, but i'm an asshole like that, i'll tell you when something is bullshit (ie makes no sense) and i'll tell you when it's not healthy, as well.
you all don't have flaws...apparently, by your own standard of "having your life together", you do- but i don't think you do, in fact, i think the opposite. you are all beautiful people, ehhh, when you wanna be.
same here, i hope. i was in a very cruddy mood yesterday, and was sleep deprived, so that may have effected my approach, but nevertheless, the statement is bullshit and the expectations presented in this thread are just the same, bullshit. you don't have to feel bad about it. we all like to believe we're getting on with life just fine, but when you make proclaimations that you need x y & z to be "productive" or "have your shit together", it's bull-fucking-shit.
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I agree with this, but you're being kindof mean/harsh in this thread.
ok, nooneman, i can see that. i apologize. i was kinda harsh, that's true.
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The fault isn't in the person who believes in such an idea, but in the idea itself.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Crystal G]
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Masked said: All I said is you clearly don't have your life together. You told me that it's likely I have had it handed to me at some point which I explained I didn't. Me having kids or a job or whatever wasn't my reasoning why YOU don't have your life together. I knew you'd try to play that angle. I should have beat you to it...i expected you to say something along the lines of "i need to shit out kids to have my life together". Nope, not what I said or am saying at all.
I think the fact that I can take care of not only my life, but others, including supplementing someone I hate(which how you could use this against me is laughable), shows having ones life together.
You can't even provide the basic necessities or luxuries of daily life for yourself...let alone others. Mommy and daddy pay your way.
Exactly. We are not saying that people who don't work or don't live on their own are bad people, or are immoral, or are inferior, or anything like that.
But the whole concept of "having your life together" means literally, your life is put together, and you can support oneself.
This isn't a question about ethics or whether somebody is a good person or not, this is a question of being able to look after yourself or not.
I wouldn't consider my life put together if I were a homeless person, even if I were the most moral and ethically conscientious and talented homeless person in the world. Almost nobody would.
i wasn't judging you. and i don't feel like you were judging me, and if you were, not maliciously, so i didn't even notice.
but the proposition is based on bullshit. that's all i am saying.
and it is about ethics. how isn't it? your opinion on how to define someone who has their shit together is an ethical question. you don't have to refer to someone as immoral or anything like that for the proposition to be bullshnacky.
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Crystal G said: Generally speaking, a good rule of thumb for "having your life together" is whether you would be able to sufficiently raise a kid or not in the situation you are in.
aside from the proposition being shittastic illogical crap- yeah, i'd say that's a good standard of ethics.
as a rule of thumb, if you have a kid, or are having one, you should try and get all those things you guys are proposing one needs "to have their life together". home & hearth (if you're "luxurious"), food, amenities & toiletries, fun stuff, money & a job,...a car, probably, all these things are required to raise a child...obviously.
but thankfully we have the option not to have kids....
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I think most people have a view about what constitutes something along the lines of "having it together" versus "not having it together." Although it's all just a bunch of bullshit that have been crammed down our throats against our will, roundly left unquestioned, and has little or no basis in anything real, I still have to admit that most people have some conception of the idea, and I think it's okay to discuss it.
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Anyway, I'd say I think of someone as having it together if they have a job and their own place. I think of someone as really having shit together if they own a house. That's about as much as I think about it, and I realize that the idea is total bullshit, so I don't give it much thought.
one could have a job and their own place/house/property, and still not not have a full life.
being able though certainly helps.
PS: "which is way" -- fucking typos. which is way...who is fone?
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said: and it is about ethics. how isn't it? your opinion on how to define someone who has their shit together is an ethical question. you don't have to refer to someone as immoral or anything like that for the proposition to be bullshnacky.
It's not a question of ethics.
It's like asking "who is the most successful person on this board?" That is not a question of ethics, or a measure of how ethical somebody is.
Some people would answer person A because they have a career and a strong work ethic and lots of monetary success. Others might answer person B because they have a family and adopted a bunch of kids and are spreading lots of love.
Certainly, the person answering is basing it on what they specifically value, but asking questions like "who is the most successful" or "who has their life together" is not a question of how ethical or good somebody's nature is.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Crystal G]
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"How would you define someone who 'has their life together'", is an ethics question based on what one person thinks about another.
you all seem to see that sentence, and somehow, through all means of logic you've been given with a mind, think that it's saying "what do you think it is that defines how your life is 'together'".
don't get it, personally. it's clear to me you guys are misapprehending the context of the statement at hand.
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Some people would answer person A because they have a career and a strong work ethic and lots of monetary success. Others might answer person B because they have a family and adopted a bunch of kids and are spreading lots of love.
yeah...that's ethics. person A has got their "life together" because they did "good". person B, just the same.
none of this even concerns life, it concerns expectations of life.
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Certainly, the person answering is basing it on what they specifically value, but asking questions like "who is the most successful" or "who has their life together" is not a question of how ethical or good somebody's nature is.
when you place expectations on people, you're questioning their ethics, because expectations based on what people "need" to have "their life together" (which is a necessary aspect of how to ascribe what is "together"- what they "need" to have it "together") are conveyed by moral standards.
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akira_akuma said: one could have a job and their own place/house/property, and still not not have a full life.
being able though certainly helps.
Yes, but this isn't a question of who has a full life or not. Or who has an enriching life or not. Or who has the best life or not. Or who is the happiest or not.
This is simply a question of who has their life together. It's a literal question, to me, not an ethical one.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
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BTW I actually support your living situation, if you were to help your parents if they were to ever become old and disabled or something. Like if your parents were to develop Alzheimers or debilitating kidney disease or something, and needed round the clock nursing care or something. If you're around to care for your parents just like they've spent so many years caring for you, then I think it all balances itself out in the end and that's a fair deal.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Crystal G]
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no it is not a literal one, it's a bullshit one. "having your life together" is a nonsense statement, one that only carries connotations of "having your life fulfilled" "having your life full" "having your life complete" "having your life good" "having your life productive" ect ect ect
the statement can mean a lot of things, it's not specific...that's partly what makes it nonsense. that and also the fact that you're all misinterpreting the context, but that's besides my point. it's also nonsense because one cannot have their life "together"- they can only hope to to try.
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Crystal G said: BTW I actually support your living situation, if you were to help your parents if they were to ever become old and disabled or something. Like if your parents were to develop Alzheimers or debilitating kidney disease or something, and needed round the clock nursing care or something. If you're around to care for your parents just like they've spent so many years caring for you, then I think it all balances itself out in the end and that's a fair deal.

that's the plan. they brought me into this world...in some fucked-up way...i'll be seeing them out, so i'm just returning the favor.
they'll be happy to not have to worry about dumbshit when they are nearing...shitsville.
if i needed to, i'd find a way to provide for a nurse, or something. might need to get funds someway, perhaps through government assistance- come to think of it, that's about the only thing i'm concerned with, is the fact of being able to afford to help take care of myself and them, when the case is that they actually need help.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
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i'll tell you when something is Bullshit
As will I. You mooching off mom and dad and not even working, as you potentially near 30, is Bullshit. Plain Bullshit.
Furthermore, you claiming Bullshit to my opinion you need x, y and z to have your life together, while simultaneously whining about how subjective this all is, is beyond hypocritical and absurd...or rather...BULLSHIT
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perhaps through government assistance
Glad to know I have my life together enough to contribute to you. 
P.s.s you mentioned your adhd more than once. You mentioned it enough to make it clear it was just more defensive ammo for why you don't have your life together and like it that way.
You don't have your life together.
Now, you can counter me with the same statement. You may feel I don't meet your criteria for what it means to have my life together. Or perhaps the whole idea of the question offends your hippy bum status and you won't try to make criteria. Either one is fine.
But at this time I think it's best to agree to disagree as you already said.
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have you all not caught glimpse of my giant cheesehead?

behold.
see, that's me, super cheese maître d'.
since most of this discussion has been cheesed, i'll admit, that it's given a lot to sink into my subconscious.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23936490 - 12/17/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said: no it is not a literal one, it's a bullshit one. "having your life together" is a nonsense statement, one that only carries connotations of "having your life fulfilled" "having your life full" "having your life complete" "having your life good" "having your life productive" ect ect ect
I have to admit though, if I had a child who was in their 30's and still living with me and had no intention or hopes of ever leaving, I would be very unhappy and think their life was not together at all. I would think that I failed them as a parent somehow.
I mean it's one thing if your child has a disability and isn't able to work. That's a perfectly valid excuse then, to stay with your parents and remain unemployed.
Or if they're only temporarily out of work, that's fine too. I'd have no problem hosting them and letting them stay in the house for a while. But if 6 months to 1 year passes and they are still not looking for a job or even trying, I'd legitimately wonder what is wrong with them and if they're simply lazy.
I had a friend who moved back in with his parents at age 35, but the reason is because he just went through a divorce and was very crushed and lonely. That's a legitimate reason to stay with your parents. But he only stayed there for 2 years, and eventually moved back out.
If you ended up having a baby and you're a single parent, then okay you can stay for several years. That's a valid excuse. But even then, I would still push my kids to start looking for work once the kid reaches around the age of 2. Part-time work is fine in this instance.
If you're trying to start a business and you're saving up for a mortgage and therefore can't move out, then okay that's also a valid excuse. Etc. etc.
You have to have a valid reason for not working and living with your parents. Simply saying "I hate working, I don't like it," that wouldn't be a good enough reason to stay in my home and live off me. That's the sort of thing that would really bother me. I would request that you spend time volunteering for a noble cause at least, until you are able to find paid work.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23936494 - 12/17/16 08:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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As will I. You mooching off mom and dad and not even working, as you potentially near 30, is Bullshit. Plain Bullshit.
i'm not mooching. mooching is when you overstay your welcome, rifle through fridges and overeat what isn't yours, and/or, for the most part, when you ask for something for free.
this is my home. you don't seem to comprehend that my parents are fine with me here. this isn't America. i knew a guy who worked at where his dad worked his whole life, elevators, and he still lived with his parents when i met, and then years later, till i moved, still, and then he did something different...he helped his mom buy a new home. sure he could afford to pay rent. but that's besides the point i'm making now.
living with your parents isn't mooching, if they don't consider you a moocher- i never asked for anything.
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P.s. you mentioned your adhd more than once. You mentioned it enough to make it clear it was just more defensive ammo for why you don't have your life together and like it that way.
actually this is where you're just being a rancid asshole. do a search 'akira_akuma' 'ADHD'. see how often it comes up. i mentioned it here because i felt it was a good explanation, and it's also been on my mind more recently.
you're just assuming things again.
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You don't have your life together.
that statement makes no sense, so i don't care what you thin it entails for me to hear it.
but i will say that i am able.
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Now, you can counter me with the same statement.
this isn't a game now.
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You may feel I don't meet your criteria for what it means to have my life together. Or perhaps the whole idea of the question offends your hippy bum status and you won't try to make criteria. Either one is fine.
having your life "together" doesn't mean anything, that's why it doesn't matter what i pick in your criteria.
whatever you're able to do is what you should do.
if you're a boring individual, well, that can't be helped.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23936522 - 12/17/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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have you all not caught glimpse of my giant cheesehead?

behold.
see, that's me, super cheese maître d'.
since most of this discussion has been cheesed, i'll admit, that it's given a lot to sink into my subconscious.
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I have to admit though, if I had a child who was in their 30's and still living with me and had no intention or hopes of ever leaving, I would be very unhappy and think their life was not together at all. I would think that I failed them as a parent somehow
that's on you.
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I mean it's one thing if your child has a disability and isn't able to work. That's a perfectly valid excuse then, to stay with your parents and remain unemployed.
here's where i'd you know, but only mentioning that cause schmendrick over there trying to call me out on something he finds derogatory, my admitting to what disability i have that i've never really mentioned before, ever, and then saying i'm using it as an excuse or some shit, even though it was just used in an explanation (j/k bout the dick part, but really, it sucks that i have to explain this too, i wish i never mentioned it. i don't use any disability as a crutch, in fact, i think of it more like a positive thing, more than anything).
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Or if they're only temporarily out of work, that's fine too. I'd have no problem hosting them and letting them stay in the house for a while. But if 6 months to 1 year passes and they are still not looking for a job or even trying, I'd legitimately wonder what is wrong with them and if they're simply lazy.
so this whole world view is constructed around your fears/hang-ups about laziness.
well, you seem to think about it way too much, if i'm gonna be honest. same with Masked.
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I had a friend who moved back in with his parents at age 35, but the reason is because he just went through a divorce and was very crushed and lonely. That's a legitimate reason to stay with your parents. But he only stayed there for 2 years, and eventually moved back out.
35 and divorced. yikes.
thankfully i'm not him. but that does suck though, don't get me wrong. it's legitimate that if he was once married, he should be able to limit his stay at his parents. catch my drift?
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If you ended up having a baby and you're a single parent, then okay you can stay for several years. That's a valid excuse. But even then, I would still push my kids to start looking for work once the kid reaches around the age of 2. Part-time work is fine in this instance.
meh, maybe you think about this stuff too much, if that's the case though, you did come up with some good ideas. i just so happen to agree with you here. save the reasoning. i would push for my kids to look for work...i'd probably be alot more concerned with their education than my parents were, that's for sure too. but i wouldn't insist that they limit themselves to a shitty part-time job (or even a decent one) just to satisfy my whim that they "must work at a job". they can do chores, and/or commit to more work. either or is fine.
the education is fucked, and it fucked you up along with everyone else here (can't you see that, it's prevalently obvious in this thread); all your friends from highschool are dead.
..... metaphorically speaking of course, not literally.
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You have to have a valid reason for not working and living with your parents. Simply saying "I hate working, I don't like it," that wouldn't be a good enough reason to stay in my home and live off me. That's the sort of thing that would really bother me. I would request that you spend time volunteering for a noble cause at least, until you are able to find paid work.
i've thought of volunteering...i still might get involved with some church missionary services. but i've also considered the military. though i'm not really into war as a matter of destruction- and there's nothing doin' in the cause of creation in the military as of right now.
but i have my own noble cause. so really, i still think you're mistaken.
you're trying to live through your kids; not provide for them (though admittedly there's a trade-off. tit-for-tat is a certainly applicable 'rule of thumb'. children naturally want to please their parents anyway.) but society made you think this way. it's ok. don't worry about it. it's not a big deal; that is to say, you'll still provide for them, is what i'm saying.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23936589 - 12/17/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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No...you aren't even using the simplest of words properly now.

Number 1 sums you up nicely. Does this make you an unfulfilled or lesser person? Not necessarily. It seems you are content doing what you do.
Doesn't change the fact you are a mooch. I don't care if you do the dishes (not when mom asks you but when you feel like it of course) or whatever. Your perceived "help" isn't money.
I'm not trying to put a negative connotation on mooch necessarily.
But as far as my subjective opinion goes...a grown man who lives at home and mooches off his parents, doesn't have a job, and plans to live off government assistance should something go wrong(again, glad me and the other tax payers can contribute to your bummery)...a man like that does not have his life together.
Thats my opinion. Think it shit all you like. I share the same sentiments about your opinion.
So...agree to disagree?
Oh so now adhd is a disability? First you claim you weren't using it as an excuse but now it almost seems like you are pulling the disability card in a passive way. Am I perceiving this wrong?
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akira_akuma said: here's where i'd you know, but only mentioning that cause schmendrick over there trying to call me out on something he finds derogatory, my admitting to what disability i have that i've never really mentioned before, ever, and then saying i'm using it as an excuse or some shit, even though it was just used in an explanation (j/k bout the dick part, but really, it sucks that i have to explain this too, i wish i never mentioned it. i don't use any disability as a crutch, in fact, i think of it more like a positive thing, more than anything).
Sorry but I don't consider ADHD a real disability. Plenty of people who have been diagnosed with ADHD are perfectly fine functioning adults.
When I say a disability that would prevent them from working, I'm talking about the type of epilepsy that causes them to have 11 seizures a day. I'm talking about severe autism or mental retardation, those kinds of disabilities.
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so this whole world view is constructed around your fears/hang-ups about laziness.
well, you seem to think about it way too much, if i'm gonna be honest. same with Masked.
It's not our "whole world view," it's about raising kids that are self-sufficient and have a good work ethic.
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meh, maybe you think about this stuff too much, if that's the case though, you did come up with some good ideas. i just so happen to agree with you here. save the reasoning. i would push for my kids to look for work...i'd probably be alot more concerned with their education than my parents were, that's for sure too. but i wouldn't insist that they limit themselves to a shitty part-time job (or even a decent one) just to satisfy my whim that they "must work at a job". they can do chores, and/or commit to more work. either or is fine.
I would frankly assume that they are already doing chores if they are living with their parents. If you're living in the house and not working AND not doing any chores, then you're the absolute worst and you are a bum.
A part-time job is a good start, because in a couple of years their child will soon be going to school. School is typically from 9am to 3pm, that's basically 6 whole hours that you're going to be free.
Really, you think a part-time job is too much to ask from a single parent? Who do you think is paying for that kid, for all its clothes and food and everything? It's fine to get help for a while, maybe even for a couple years, but eventually you have to start being financially responsible for your kid. Because until then, it's the grandparents that are going to be paying for everything. So you're basically going to be burdening somebody else, because that financial duty has to fall on somebody else's shoulders, simply because you don't feel like working?
I find it alarming and extremely self-entitled, your worldviews.
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i've thought of volunteering...i still might get involved with some church missionary services. but i've also considered the military. though i'm not really into war as a matter of destruction- and there's nothing doin' in the cause of creation in the military as of right now.
Do it. Don't just talk about it. Do it. There's literally nothing stopping you.
And guess what, if you get involved with the missionary, they will pay for your room and board and food and everything. Same with the military.
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but i have my own noble cause. so really, i still think you're mistaken.
By noble cause, you mean you're just living, just like everybody else. Unless you're out there helping the homeless or giving your time tutoring underprivileged children or something, I wouldn't say anything you do is particularly noble.
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you're trying to live through your kids; not provide for them (though admittedly there's a trade-off. tit-for-tat is a certainly applicable 'rule of thumb'. children naturally want to please their parents anyway.) but society made you think this way. it's ok. don't worry about it. it's not a big deal; that is to say, you'll still provide for them, is what i'm saying.
Yeah, because clearly we're just not enlightened or conscientious enough to think your way, right?
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Masked]
#23936611 - 12/17/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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i didn't figure it was a more "North American" phrase. yeah, i guess that makes sense they'd make some so arbitrary so relevant. hey, what's this on the ground. oops i'm a moocher.
yeah i guess giving a fuck about family unless you're ready to launch them like missiles is a more American type thing- this is why we should just combine our two countries already.
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Does this make you an unfulfilled or lesser person? Not necessarily. It seems you are content doing what you do
there's those ethics i was talkin' about. yeah you're full of shit. i'm doing just fine, and am fulfilled most of the time. 
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I'm not trying to put a negative connotation on mooch necessarily.
oh but you are. but that's ok, since we're clear on that. i think i've already proven how mooch is a dumb fuckin' word anyway.
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But as far as my subjective opinion goes...a grown man who lives at home and mooches off his parents, doesn't have a job, and plans to live off government assistance should something go wrong(again, glad me and the other tax payers can contribute to your bummery)...a man like that does not have his life together.
you don't contribute to me at all, sycophant (and i call you sycophant not cause you're talking to me); you've never given me anything, and i don't mean that in any sort of emotional way (this is where i posit the emotional draw, because like fuck it, it's just cool), just a purely tenable, erm, i use your roads...to walk on the sidewalk. i don't even use public transportation, i prefer walking. i used to say fuck cars, but then i guess we have too many people driving everywhere (lazy tch tch tch) and then there's only so much time, you wouldn't like that 9-5 with no car.
and i'm not on government assistance, but if i was starting out at McDonalds i'd probably have to sign up for their godddamn welfare program until i could manage to find a second job.
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Thats my opinion. Think it shit all you like. I share the same sentiments about your opinion
keep telling yourself that if it helps you dream at night. 
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So...agree to disagree?
we can agree at least one thing; it's fun.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23936624 - 12/17/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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omg so many tldr posts in a row. I judge people based on how many shrooms they have on the shroomery rating system. I only like people who have 5 shrooms. Four is not enough in my opinion.
Stop trying to be my friend akira 
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
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1. Notice the "should" in the sentence "should something go wrong" (you exclaimed to crystal that you would get some government assistance if your parents got ill or such). So your entire response to my "should", was based on the erroneous idea I said you "are". Hence, more Bullshit from akira
2.i don't really feel that mooching off your parents is "caring" for them
3. "Oh but you are" (putting a negative connotation on the word mooch). Wrong again. What was that emoticon you used? Seems fitting here. :jimmiesrustled:
4. Being told by a grown man who doesnt work and lives and mooches off mom and dad, that my opinion(that having a job and supporting kids and others, buying my own food, utilities, etc, is what constitutes having your life together), is Bullshit...is fun? Sure. If you say so
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Masked]
#23936642 - 12/17/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I like akira better than you but you're the least tldr poster here so I'm going to have to side with you I guess.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
#23936652 - 12/17/16 09:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sorry but I don't consider ADHD a real disability. Plenty of people who have been diagnosed with ADHD are perfectly fine functioning adults.
great, so i have to type more bullshit to explain how you're full of shit?
it is a real disability. but like i said i don't use it as a crutch or anything. do you fathom what these words mean, or do i have to explain some more? you see, thing is i am a perfectly function adult. but that doesn't mean ADHD isn't real; i mean...look, you're reality is real. so how good that worked? it's cause it didn't work at all. so would you look at that...there is omre of those ethics we were discussing.
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It's not our "whole world view," it's about raising kids that are self-sufficient and have a good work ethic.
and i would do the same. you seem to presume a lot.
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I would frankly assume that they are already doing chores if they are living with their parents. If they're living in the house and not working AND not doing any chores, then you're the absolute worst and you are a bum.
nice ethics lecture. can i go now?
you'er frankly assuming a lot of shit, and i mean, i thought you were paying attention earlier about this stuff.
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A part-time job is a good start, because in a couple of years their child will soon be going to school. School is typically from 9am to 3pm, that's basically 6 whole hours that you're going to be free.
finally, yes, that's right. indeed, you gotta sort grade yourself on a curve for awhile, but then you pick up on the top of the bell.
i can agree with you when you aren't just making massive presumptions in text about my life (even things we've covered already like chores...i mean, shit, you're basically treating me like i'm a child, right over the internet. lies are fun, but this is fun too, i'm ready to just light up and enjoy some excellent music...it's funny, i have a lot of time on my hands -- you're right, it'd be nice to get that job to fill the time- too bad there ain't no good jobs. but thanks for your concerns anyway, i really just thought i'd expand on this quote a little bit though, just cause there wasn't much really to say about it, and contrast is important in making an argument. i guess this is what i'm doing now, since my ethics are being called into question.
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Really, you think a part-time job is too much to ask from a single parent? Who do you think is paying for that kid, for all its clothes and food and everything? It's fine to get help for a while, maybe even for a couple years, but eventually you have to start being financially responsible for your kid. Because until then, it's the grandparents that are going to be paying for everything.
I find it alarming and even self-entitled, your worldviews.
this one is nice and simple; um, you obviously didn't read what i said.
not enough motivation for tendency, and too much attendance to motivation, is not the best method to teach. you seem to be presuming so much about me. it's hilarious.
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Do it. Don't just talk about it. Do it. There's literally nothing stopping you.
And guess what, if you get involved with the missionary, they will pay for your room and board and food and everything. Same with the military.
meh, i might. just do it is an apt analogy to what i might do. the military is out of the option right now though, unless of course there is a call to war, then i'd go.
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By noble cause, you mean you're just living, just like everybody else. Unless you're out there helping the homeless or giving your time tutoring underprivileged children or something, I wouldn't say anything you do is particularly noble.
no, my noble cause is to create a life, not just live. but my motivations are probably very different than yours, at least, they probably were, and thus, even if they are more in-line with my own now, then before, i'm obviously still not there yet. but i've been thinking about changing the scenario a bit, thing is, i'm working on it now. i don't know, still kind of presumptive. you keep mentioning like helping people. i help people who need help. oh but it needs to be random people? i've helped random people before, of given them money. in fact, my step-dad is really kindly, so my friends actually was given money for school, at one point.
altruism works, clearly, but it's not always rational, that's for sure, or sensible.

didn't i say this was all about ethics?
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Yeah, because clearly we're just not enlightened or conscientious enough to think your way, right? 
*should i randomly laugh or just say no*
no. you see things in a different perspective than myself.
we all do, but i'm pretty sure that when you have kids, if you don't already, then you'll put yourself before them, always, until you learn not to.
unless you are enlightened. there are some enlightened moms, i don't mean to presume on you, but since we are making presumptions...you're be overly conscientious in the worst ways, given your track record.
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i had a full time job and all of my money went towards useless shit, which is why I quit I'd rather be at home then watching my daylight hours go by a part time job is such a non thing it's like showing up to work and then going home with no money, you can't even buy useless shit with a part time job
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
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1. Notice the "should" in the sentence "should something go wrong" (you exclaimed to crystal that you would get some government assistance if your parents got ill or such). So your entire response to my "should", was based on the erroneous idea I said you "are". Hence, more Bullshit from akira
lol, i recognize that, i was making a point. logic chopping isn't to going to help make a case that you have a valid point.
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2.i don't really feel that mooching off your parents is "caring" for them
i care about myself. i worry about them, and care that they happy of course, but that's different. they seem happy. you don't know how ridiculous they are, and i mean that in the best way possible. my mom is a bit of a B, though; but she like had God put in to her, so yeah, and she's a mercurial mother and shit, so it makes sense, taskmaster but helpful and automatically willing to be obliging. a strange combination. (obviously, i've just proffering a narrative here) oh yeah but whatever dude, i don't know you you're not my real dad.
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3. "Oh but you are" (putting a negative connotation on the word mooch). Wrong again. What was that emoticon you used? Seems fitting here. :jimmiesrustled:
"Does this make you an unfulfilled or lesser person? Not necessarily...It seems you are content doing what you do"-- "I'm not trying to put a negative connotation on mooch necessarily."

don't tell me that wasn't intentional...alright, but it seems like you're putting a negative connection every which way about how i conduct myself in every other post...so...am i to take it that you were being nice here? just condescendingly nice.
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4. Being told by a grown man who doesnt work and lives and mooches off mom and dad, that my opinion(that having a job and supporting kids and others, buying my own food, utilities, etc, is what constitutes having your life together), is Bullshit...is fun? Sure. If you say so 
it's fun for me. i'm able to expose you for being truly full of poop, internally. i never said what you do is bullshit. i said the statement "How would you define someone who 'has their life together'?" is nonsense and bullshit and doesn't make any goddamn sense.
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Konyap said: i had a full time job and all of my money went towards useless shit, which is why I quit I'd rather be at home then watching my daylight hours go by a part time job is such a non thing it's like showing up to work and then going home with no money, you can't even buy useless shit with a part time job
i can get by rather easily without buying useless shit.
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Re: How would you define someone who [Re: Konyap]
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How do you afford the Internet you are using right now and the light to see? How do you afford your necessities and luxuries?
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Masked said: How do you afford the Internet you are using right now and the light to see? How do you afford your necessities and luxuries?
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23936381/gonew/1#UNREAD
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma]
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So...
1. You admit to being full of shit...again. great! 
2. You care about yourself. That much is obvious
3. Necessarily...meaning, I figured your ruffled feathers probably perceive it as negative. I don't intend it to be.
4. The only thing you have "exposed" is that A. You are grown man...jobless and live at home and contribute limited household help on your own time...and B. You feel emotionally, spiritually and/or intellectual superior for being said mooch. And C. You are defensive about your ADHD...
In essence...all you have exposed is just how full of shit you are in fact.
Get your life together.
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Re: How would you define someone who [Re: Repertoire89]
#23936721 - 12/17/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Repertoire89
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Re: How would you define someone who [Re: Masked]
#23936740 - 12/17/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Masked]
#23936754 - 12/17/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Masked said: So...
1. You admit to being full of shit...again. great! 

"and i'm not on government assistance, but if i was starting out at McDonalds i'd probably have to sign up for their godddamn welfare program until i could manage to find a second job."
that looks like i was making a point as an aside...that isn't bullshit. it's real man! real talk!
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2. You care about yourself. That much is obvious
such reparte,such wit,such elegance. wanna dance? to bad. no candy for you.
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3. Necessarily...meaning, I figured your ruffled feathers probably perceive it as negative. I don't intend it to be.
i don't see it as a negative, you just keep implying that that do. duly noted. you don't think it's a negative. so why keep going on about it. it's a positive not a negative, gee, or at least neutral.
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4. The only thing you have "exposed" is that A. You are grown man...jobless and live at home and contribute limited household help on your own time...and B. You feel emotionally, spiritually and/or intellectual superior for being said mooch. And C. You are defensive about your ADHD...
A: that isn't anything i have a problem exposing. B: um, no i don't. C: not really. i just thought it was relevant to my discussion with Crystal, since she took quite and interest in my state of mind (much more than my state of affairs. i bet she could dig in my skull with those prying hands).
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Get your life together. 
my life is "together".
don't waste yourself.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#23936846 - 12/17/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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it's not that the jobs are bad tho it's the banks re-selling houses and putting this fake value on the house to get property tax every year I won't feel comfertable working unless a. i live with my rents b. make 35k a year 12..15 dollars an hour isn't a min wage 22 dollars an hour is with all these rental properties charging exorbitant prices...
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#23936888 - 12/17/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said: great, so i have to type more bullshit to explain how you're full of shit?
it is a real disability. but like i said i don't use it as a crutch or anything. do you fathom what these words mean, or do i have to explain some more? you see, thing is i am a perfectly function adult. but that doesn't mean ADHD isn't real; i mean...look, you're reality is real. so how good that worked? it's cause it didn't work at all. so would you look at that...there is omre of those ethics we were discussing.
It's not a real disability in the sense that it's one that is serious enough to preclude you from working. If that's the case then everybody who's been diagnosed with bipolar or depression would be incapable of working.
Paranoid schizophrenia on the other hand, THAT'S a psychological disorder that would be serious enough to preclude somebody from working. ADHD though? Nah... you're perfectly able to work.
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and i would do the same. you seem to presume a lot.
How though? Part of teaching is leading by example. If you aren't a role model for them by having a good work ethic yourself, then how would you teach them?
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nice ethics lecture. can i go now?
you'er frankly assuming a lot of shit, and i mean, i thought you were paying attention earlier about this stuff.
How many times have I told you already, when I say "you" I'm referring to the general "you," not the specific "you." I therefore haven't assumed shit about you, aside from what you've told me.
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no, my noble cause is to create a life, not just live.
I thought you just said that life wasn't about shitting out babies or something along those lines. I sincerely hope you don't intentionally create life while you're in the financial situation you're in. That would be a recipe for disaster. I understand accidents happen, but at least don't do it intentionally.
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but my motivations are probably very different than yours, at least, they probably were, and thus, even if they are more in-line with my own now, then before, i'm obviously still not there yet. but i've been thinking about changing the scenario a bit, thing is, i'm working on it now. i don't know, still kind of presumptive. you keep mentioning like helping people. i help people who need help. oh but it needs to be random people? i've helped random people before, of given them money. in fact, my step-dad is really kindly, so my friends actually was given money for school, at one point.
No offense, but your answers seem really wishy washy, almost like a politician trying to talk his way out of anything. You seem really aloof, like you don't actually stand for anything. You don't have any core principles that you abide by. Like the fact that you think "helping random people here and there" is even something worth mentioning. Makes me go huh...?
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we all do, but i'm pretty sure that when you have kids, if you don't already, then you'll put yourself before them, always, until you learn not to.
You're hilarious. Lecturing somebody about how to not put yourself first.
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#23936917 - 12/17/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think someone whose got a hold of their life has it together for the most part. u can be a drug dealer and make good money, have friends, family, and they're all doing well too, I'd say they got it together..
Even a homeless person living on the streets, suppose they got a tent, know where to go for food, know where the money's at, know several people, now I'd say they got it together too..
But let's say like some dude strung out on sum drug, curled up in sum back alley shaking and looking as lost as ever, now he probably don't got it together..
So how would I define someone who's got their life together?, is it wealth?, yes but not quite..
Id say it has more to do with control, independence, etc., etc....
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Masked]
#23936918 - 12/17/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Masked said: So...
1. You admit to being full of shit...again. great! 
2. You care about yourself. That much is obvious
3. Necessarily...meaning, I figured your ruffled feathers probably perceive it as negative. I don't intend it to be.
4. The only thing you have "exposed" is that A. You are grown man...jobless and live at home and contribute limited household help on your own time...and B. You feel emotionally, spiritually and/or intellectual superior for being said mooch. And C. You are defensive about your ADHD...
In essence...all you have exposed is just how full of shit you are in fact.
Get your life together. 
Here's what I don't get. If I was in his situation I would be embarrassed or at least have some humility, and I would at least be in the process of trying to make a better life for myself. I certainly wouldn't be on here defending my choices, or trying to claim this is a better or superior way.
That's what I don't get, is the relentless defense of this lifestyle choice. While there's nothing wrong with needing help, beyond a certain point you're basically taking advantage of someone, and it's certainly nothing to be proud of either.
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akira_akuma
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Crystal G]
#23936945 - 12/17/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's not a real disability in the sense that it's one that is serious enough to preclude you from working. If that's the case then everybody who's been diagnosed with bipolar or depression would be incapable of working.
Paranoid schizophrenia on the other hand, THAT'S a psychological disorder that would be serious enough to preclude somebody from working. ADHD though? Nah... you're perfectly able to work.
who said i wasn't able to work? LOL i love it when people make these random assumptions. it's like ok, that came out of nowhere. you figure that with typing out a message, well...it's not important.

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How though? Part of teaching is leading by example. If you aren't a role model for them by having a good work ethic yourself, then how would you teach them?
cmon its snot that that difficult. you just get cracking. now look, if i wasn't in the middle of nowhere right now, i would be more apt to concern myself with the subject. there's no reason to worry so little money, so i'm not going to waste my time. if you don't like it, that's fine, but i'm telling it like it is, it's just simply not worth it while i can study things. i played in band. i did that. that was what i wanted to do. now i'm learning things on my own time and making and writing things. look if that's not work to you, then ok, but it's work to me. it's work and it's also academic at the same time. and there's still more to come alot more, you know, i've been branching out into alot more subjects just in this last half year...i had a slight change of heart, in the direction of the sun, about a year ago now, and had a small recovery period- i'm not really doing drugs now these days, after all the whole last thing with my band and bullshit, now i am doing anything. i'm not going to stay on this path for very much longer. but i'm certainly not rushing or anything. i think at this point, since i'm 7 years from turning 35, i have certain motives for construing my own cultivation; of being let out of school (ailing school) and doing my own thing, as it were, i become my own person. sorry if that's incomprehensible to you. and i'm rather autodidactic in studying (like i said, ailing school).
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How many times have I told you already, when I say "you" I'm referring to the general "you," not the specific "you." I therefore haven't assumed shit about you, aside from what you've told me
thank you for that pleasant anecdote. but i am being serious when i say, you literally should have read that of course i do "chores" miss. but do you not think that had already meant that when i discussed with you what we discussed? this is just the thing. you had discussed, but you did not suss what i said, apparently.
and you even said that you "would assume", i'm merely agreeing with you that you would, because you did, no offence, but your response was apparently to indicate that "if you're doing this, then you're a bum".
that's quite an assumption considering things.
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I thought you just said that life wasn't about shitting out babies or something along those lines. I sincerely hope you don't intentionally create life while you're in the financial situation you're in. That would be a recipe for disaster. I understand accidents happen, but at least don't do it intentionally.
LOL did i get your goat. look at you frothing, practically.
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No offense, but your answers seem really wishy washy, almost like a politician trying to talk his way out of anything. You seem really aloof, like you don't actually stand for anything. You don't have any core principles that you abide by. Like the fact that you think "helping random people here and there" is even something worth mentioning. Makes me go huh...?
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You're hilarious. Lecturing somebody about how to not put yourself first.
that's ironic. it's ironic because there's no amount of "stuff" you have that prepares you for having a child. it's not merely a change in the economy. and you seem to treat at such.
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Crystal G said: Here's what I don't get. If I was in his situation I would be embarrassed or at least have some humility, and I would at least be in the process of trying to make a better life for myself. I certainly wouldn't be on here defending my choices, or trying to claim this is a better or superior way.
That's what I don't get, is the relentless defense of this lifestyle choice. While there's nothing wrong with needing help, beyond a certain point you're basically taking advantage of someone, and it's certainly nothing to be proud of either.
this isn't a defense. LOL you're fucking hilarious. i would tell you to sit and spin but, no keep up with the assumptions. they're funny.
humility. to you? 
PS: most of your seem to have your life "together"- yet by your own statements, you mostly all seem to think your life isn't "together", because those things you expect people need to say their life is "together", well, you're missing some of those things, by your own admission. even if your statements don't reflect that in the sense of what you're listing in this thread, even Masked, you still say "but i don't have everything 'together'"
...yet what i'm saying is, you do.
you do have your life "together"- and most of you have definitely more things on your plate, as it were, than i do, to deal with...to "put together". it's mostly admirable- but then you say things that are not sensible.
Edited by akira_akuma (12/18/16 08:19 AM)
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Celestial Traveler] 1
#23937595 - 12/18/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would define someone who has their life together as someone who knows what they want in life, and knows how to get it.
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