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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Masked]
    #23936754 - 12/17/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Masked said:
So...

1. You admit to being full of shit...again.  great! :cheers:





"and i'm not on government assistance, but if i was starting out at McDonalds i'd probably have to sign up for their godddamn welfare program until i could manage to find a second job."

that looks like i was making a point as an aside...that isn't bullshit. it's real man! real talk!

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2. You care about yourself.  That much is obvious



such reparte,such wit,such elegance. wanna dance? to bad. no candy for you.


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3. Necessarily...meaning, I figured your ruffled feathers probably perceive it as negative.  I don't intend it to be.



i don't see it as a negative, you just keep implying that that do. duly noted. you don't think it's a negative. so why keep going on about it. it's a positive not a negative, gee, or at least neutral.

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4. The only thing you have "exposed" is that A. You are grown man...jobless and live at home and contribute limited household help on your own time...and B. You feel emotionally, spiritually and/or intellectual superior for being said mooch. And C. You are defensive about your ADHD...



A: that isn't anything i have a problem exposing. B: um, no i don't. C: not really. i just thought it was relevant to my discussion with Crystal, since she took quite and interest in my state of mind (much more than my state of affairs. i bet she could dig in my skull with those prying hands).
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Get your life together. :smirk:




:lolsy: my life is "together".

don't waste yourself.
:brucelee:


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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23936846 - 12/17/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

it's not that the jobs are bad tho
it's the banks re-selling houses and putting this fake value on the house to get property tax every year
I won't feel comfertable working unless
a. i live with my rents
b. make 35k a year
12..15 dollars an hour isn't a min wage
22 dollars an hour is
with all these rental properties charging exorbitant prices...



Edited by Konyap (12/17/16 10:50 PM)


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OfflineCrystal G
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23936888 - 12/17/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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akira_akuma said:
great, so i have to type more bullshit to explain how you're full of shit?

it is a real disability. but like i said i don't use it as a crutch or anything. do you fathom what these words mean, or do i have to explain some more? you see, thing is i am  a perfectly function adult. but that doesn't mean ADHD isn't real; i mean...look, you're reality is real. so how good that worked? it's cause it didn't work at all. so would you look at that...there is omre of those ethics we were discussing.




:rolleyes: It's not a real disability in the sense that it's one that is serious enough to preclude you from working. If that's the case then everybody who's been diagnosed with bipolar or depression would be incapable of working.

Paranoid schizophrenia on the other hand, THAT'S a psychological disorder that would be serious enough to preclude somebody from working. ADHD though? Nah... you're perfectly able to work.

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:facepalm: and i would do the same. you seem to presume a lot.




How though? Part of teaching is leading by example. If you aren't a role model for them by having a good work ethic yourself, then how would you teach them?

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nice ethics lecture. can i go now?

you'er frankly assuming a lot of shit, and i mean, i thought you were paying attention earlier about this stuff.




How many times have I told you already, when I say "you" I'm referring to the general "you," not the specific "you." I therefore haven't assumed shit about you, aside from what you've told me.

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no, my noble cause is to create a life, not just live.




I thought you just said that life wasn't about shitting out babies or something along those lines. I sincerely hope you don't intentionally create life while you're in the financial situation you're in. That would be a recipe for disaster. I understand accidents happen, but at least don't do it intentionally.

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but my motivations are probably very different than yours, at least, they probably were, and thus, even if they are more in-line with my own now, then before, i'm obviously still not there yet. but i've been thinking about changing the scenario a bit, thing is, i'm working on it now. i don't know, still kind of presumptive. you keep mentioning like helping people. i help people who need help. oh but it needs to be random people? i've helped random people before, of given them money. in fact, my step-dad is really kindly, so my friends actually was given money for school, at one point.




No offense, but your answers seem really wishy washy, almost like a politician trying to talk his way out of anything. You seem really aloof, like you don't actually stand for anything. You don't have any core principles that you abide by. Like the fact that you think "helping random people here and there" is even something worth mentioning. Makes me go huh...?

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we all do, but i'm pretty sure that when you have kids, if you don't already, then you'll put yourself before them, always, until you learn not to.




You're hilarious. Lecturing somebody about how to not put yourself first.


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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23936917 - 12/17/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I think someone whose got a hold of their life has it together for the most part. u can be a drug dealer and make good money, have friends, family, and they're all doing well too, I'd say they got it together..

Even a homeless person living on the streets, suppose they got a tent, know where to go for food, know where the money's at, know several people, now I'd say they got it together too..

But let's say like some dude strung out on sum drug, curled up in sum back alley shaking and looking as lost as ever, now he probably don't got it together..

So how would I define someone who's got their life together?, is it wealth?, yes but not quite..

Id say it has more to do with control, independence, etc., etc....


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OfflineCrystal G
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Masked]
    #23936918 - 12/17/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Masked said:
So...

1. You admit to being full of shit...again.  great! :cheers:

2. You care about yourself.  That much is obvious

3. Necessarily...meaning, I figured your ruffled feathers probably perceive it as negative.  I don't intend it to be.

4. The only thing you have "exposed" is that A. You are grown man...jobless and live at home and contribute limited household help on your own time...and B. You feel emotionally, spiritually and/or intellectual superior for being said mooch. And C. You are defensive about your ADHD...

In essence...all you have exposed is just how full of shit you are in fact.

Get your life together. :smirk:




Here's what I don't get. If I was in his situation I would be embarrassed or at least have some humility, and I would at least be in the process of trying to make a better life for myself. I certainly wouldn't be on here defending my choices, or trying to claim this is a better or superior way.

That's what I don't get, is the relentless defense of this lifestyle choice. While there's nothing wrong with needing help, beyond a certain point you're basically taking advantage of someone, and it's certainly nothing to be proud of either.


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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23936945 - 12/17/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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:rolleyes: It's not a real disability in the sense that it's one that is serious enough to preclude you from working. If that's the case then everybody who's been diagnosed with bipolar or depression would be incapable of working.

Paranoid schizophrenia on the other hand, THAT'S a psychological disorder that would be serious enough to preclude somebody from working. ADHD though? Nah... you're perfectly able to work.




who said i wasn't able to work? LOL i love it when people make these random assumptions. it's like ok, that came out of nowhere. you figure that with typing out a message, well...it's not important.



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How though? Part of teaching is leading by example. If you aren't a role model for them by having a good work ethic yourself, then how would you teach them?





cmon its snot that that difficult. you just get cracking. now look, if i wasn't in the middle of nowhere right now, i would be more apt to concern myself with the subject. there's no reason to worry so little money, so i'm not going to waste my time. if you don't like it, that's fine, but i'm telling it like it is, it's just simply not worth it while i can study things. i played in  band. i did that. that was what i wanted to do. now i'm learning things on my own time and making and writing things. look if that's not work to you, then ok, but it's work to me. it's work and it's also academic at the same time. and there's still more to come alot more, you know, i've been branching out into alot more subjects just in this last half year...i had a slight change of heart, in the direction of the sun, about a year ago now, and had a small recovery period- i'm not really doing drugs now these days, after all the whole last thing with my band and bullshit, now i am doing anything. i'm not going to stay on this path for very much longer. but i'm certainly not rushing or anything. i think at this point, since i'm 7 years from turning 35, i have certain motives for construing my own cultivation; of being let out of school (ailing school) and doing my own thing, as it were, i become my own person. sorry if that's incomprehensible to you. and i'm rather autodidactic in studying (like i said, ailing school).


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How many times have I told you already, when I say "you" I'm referring to the general "you," not the specific "you." I therefore haven't assumed shit about you, aside from what you've told me




thank you for that pleasant anecdote. but i am being serious when i say, you literally should have read that of course i do "chores" miss. but do you not think that had already meant that when i discussed with you what we discussed? this is just the thing. you had discussed, but you did not suss what i said, apparently.

and you even said that you "would assume", i'm merely agreeing with you that you would, because you did, no offence, but your response was apparently to indicate that "if you're doing this, then you're a bum".

that's quite an assumption considering things.

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I thought you just said that life wasn't about shitting out babies or something along those lines. I sincerely hope you don't intentionally create life while you're in the financial situation you're in. That would be a recipe for disaster. I understand accidents happen, but at least don't do it intentionally.





LOL did i get your goat. look at you frothing, practically.

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No offense, but your answers seem really wishy washy, almost like a politician trying to talk his way out of anything. You seem really aloof, like you don't actually stand for anything. You don't have any core principles that you abide by. Like the fact that you think "helping random people here and there" is even something worth mentioning. Makes me go huh...?





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You're hilarious. Lecturing somebody about how to not put yourself first.




that's ironic. it's ironic because there's no amount of "stuff" you have that prepares you for having a child. it's not merely a change in the economy. and you seem to treat at such.

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Crystal G said:
Here's what I don't get. If I was in his situation I would be embarrassed or at least have some humility, and I would at least be in the process of trying to make a better life for myself. I certainly wouldn't be on here defending my choices, or trying to claim this is a better or superior way.

That's what I don't get, is the relentless defense of this lifestyle choice. While there's nothing wrong with needing help, beyond a certain point you're basically taking advantage of someone, and it's certainly nothing to be proud of either.





this isn't a defense. LOL you're fucking hilarious. i would tell you to sit and spin but, no keep up with the assumptions. they're funny.

humility. to you? :rofl:

PS: most of your seem to have your life "together"- yet by your own statements, you mostly all seem to think your life isn't "together", because those things you expect people need to say their life is "together", well, you're missing some of those things, by your own admission. even if your statements don't reflect that in the sense of what you're listing in this thread, even Masked, you still say "but i don't have everything 'together'"

...yet what i'm saying is, you do.

you do have your life "together"- and most of you have definitely more things on your plate, as it were, than i do, to deal with...to "put together". it's mostly admirable- but then you say things that are not sensible.


Edited by akira_akuma (12/18/16 08:19 AM)


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Re: How would you define someone who "has their life together"? [Re: Celestial Traveler] * 1
    #23937595 - 12/18/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I would define someone who has their life together as someone who knows what they want in life, and knows how to get it.


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