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Re: All matter can be expressed as a linear combination of atomic orbital wavefunctions [Re: I_was_the_walrus] * 1
    #23934362 - 12/17/16 02:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

frequency is waves right

the particles are what they are because of what their wave function looks like then yeah?

it's like that bill hicks quote about lsd - that all matter is energy condensed to a slow vibration - right?


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Re: All matter can be expressed as a linear combination of atomic orbital wavefunctions [Re: 404]
    #23934372 - 12/17/16 03:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Im no philosopher



this has been already established.

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by any means. But yes, if it has rest mass, the state of any particle can be described by a wavefunction.



where do subatomic particles come about and arise in nature through linear combinatory atomic orbital wavelength functions, though?

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it's like that bill hicks quote about lsd - that all matter is energy condensed to a slow vibration - right?




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Re: All matter can be expressed as a linear combination of atomic orbital wavefunctions [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23934395 - 12/17/16 03:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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where do subatomic particles come about and arise in nature through linear combinatory atomic orbital wavelength functions, though?




You would make a great scientist. These are questions that need answers.


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Re: All matter can be expressed as a linear combination of atomic orbital wavefunctions [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #23934401 - 12/17/16 03:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

science? you mean that thing that people have the notion of that it can answer all questions through symbolic logic/differential equations and experimentation?

yeah, no time for that.


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Re: All matter can be expressed as a linear combination of atomic orbital wavefunctions [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23934420 - 12/17/16 03:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Well maybe instead of being pissed about scientific opinion all the time, you get your hands dirty and find it out for yourself. Answer your own questions.


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Re: All matter can be expressed as a linear combination of atomic orbital wavefunctions [Re: I_was_the_walrus] * 3
    #23934427 - 12/17/16 03:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

i'm not pissed at science. i just find the notion that it can find answers to reality, a reality outside of it's predilections for rationality, funny. logic is simply the drain in the pool. a hole in a spigot.

where does it come from? language, math, philosophy, these are all just expressions of the reality of which that can't be explained in scientific terms, are explained in statements of compulsion.


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Re: All matter can be expressed as a linear combination of atomic orbital wavefunctions [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23934432 - 12/17/16 03:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I_was_the_walrus said:
Im no philosopher



this has been already established.

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by any means. But yes, if it has rest mass, the state of any particle can be described by a wavefunction.



where do subatomic particles come about and arise in nature through linear combinatory atomic orbital wavelength functions, though?

Quote:

it's like that bill hicks quote about lsd - that all matter is energy condensed to a slow vibration - right?




:popcorn:



"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Heres Tom with the Weather."
Bill Hicks.


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Re: All matter can be expressed as a linear combination of atomic orbital wavefunctions [Re: pineninja]
    #23934445 - 12/17/16 03:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

matter is thought in that case. interesting how much pain is the world in that case. wonder what explains that scientifically.


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Re: All matter can be expressed as a linear combination of atomic orbital wavefunctions [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23934539 - 12/17/16 05:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quite important. We can only ask imperfect questions yet we expect perfect answers.


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Re: All matter can be expressed as a linear combination of atomic orbital wavefunctions [Re: pineninja] * 1
    #23934566 - 12/17/16 05:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

that's science for you. i prefer the socratic method, personally, and the natural sciences, above testing the hypothesis of one's predilections. experimenting can be fun though, in general, so i don't fault people for trying, i mean, there's always the possibility of a great discovery, or technological advancement, that's good thing, for sure. but it isn't my forte, and i certainly don't think people can simply glean all the answers of the universe- not at all. if someone comes up with a grand unifying theory, of course that'd be spectacular, but i doubt it'll ever happen in my lifetime, and many more.

but the world needs doctors, engineers, and...nah, not lawyers...fuck lawyers (i'm kidding- that's also "a thing". :tongue: ); alright, and we need physicists and mathematicians too, i'm not oblivious to that fact. it's just that i don't think they will find more use outside of applied study and theory, and that the notion of finding the causal relations in the universe are slim-to-none. all the more power to the scientist, then. it's a laudable goal to try and beat nature- the destructive bitch that it is. hopefully no asteroids hit us any time soon.


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Re: All matter can be expressed as a linear combination of atomic orbital wavefunctions [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23934609 - 12/17/16 06:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

His greatest gift to me was the notion that one's inadequacy is of utmost importance when defining ideas.
If you think you have all the answers you just haven't been asked the right question yet.


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Re: All matter can be expressed as a linear combination of atomic orbital wavefunctions [Re: pineninja]
    #23934616 - 12/17/16 06:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

the notion of arrogance is a pitiful one, even if most are guilty of it. the proof is in the pudding. even earned arrogance has it's place in childishness. one isn't arrogant with children, are they? they shouldn't be, they need to learn how to behave and be aware of their inadequacies in order to learn.

beginner's luck is an important function of humanity- it's probably how we've gotten so far, at all.


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Re: All matter can be expressed as a linear combination of atomic orbital wavefunctions [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23934633 - 12/17/16 06:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

The pressure to have figured it out, or at the very least be getting closer grows with age. This makes people run down the path they should be strolling along.


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Re: All matter can be expressed as a linear combination of atomic orbital wavefunctions [Re: pineninja] * 1
    #23934634 - 12/17/16 06:39 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

that is some nice folky wisdom. reminds me of my friend, whom essentially said the same thing- "why walk so fast?"


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Re: All matter can be expressed as a linear combination of atomic orbital wavefunctions [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23934640 - 12/17/16 06:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yep, but like you said, to each their own.:wonka:


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Re: All matter can be expressed as a linear combination of atomic orbital wavefunctions [Re: pineninja] * 1
    #23934650 - 12/17/16 06:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

the Social Media Age is nearing it's final phase. soon: the Age of Context.


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Re: All matter can be expressed as a linear combination of atomic orbital wavefunctions [Re: I_was_the_walrus] * 2
    #23934815 - 12/17/16 08:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I just saved you a degree in chemistry. Youre welcome.




Cool.

I'm gonna save you a degree in business: Buy at a low price, sell at a profit.

You're welcome


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