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OfflineHyper
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30-60grams of magic mushrooms??? how is that?
    #23933779 - 12/16/16 09:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I watched an interview with a guy named Kilindi Lyi. I thought a heroic dose was 5 grams... He claims to take doses waaaaaaaaaaaaaay higher(30-60 grams).

I've only ever taken 2grams. I plan on eventually going to 5-6 within a few months.

Has anyone experienced this? what are the "levels" for beyond 5 grams??


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Re: 30-60grams of magic mushrooms??? how is that? [Re: Hyper]
    #23933788 - 12/16/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Fresh mushrooms weigh more. Maybe so that those numbers.


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Re: 30-60grams of magic mushrooms??? how is that? [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #23933837 - 12/16/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Fresh mushrooms weigh more. Maybe so that those numbers.





Well the guy did mention Terrance McKenna and said he didn't think 5g was very much. I think he's talking about dry.




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Re: 30-60grams of magic mushrooms??? how is that? [Re: Hyper]
    #23933848 - 12/16/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

5g is good spot.  Two to one.


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Re: 30-60grams of magic mushrooms??? how is that? [Re: Hyper] * 1
    #23933855 - 12/16/16 10:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Some people are just hardheads man. His 30g might be someone else's 5g. I don't know about this guy but in my experience such people are often...psychologically...atypical...to begin with


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Re: 30-60grams of magic mushrooms??? how is that? [Re: djbluntmagic]
    #23934040 - 12/16/16 11:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Look, TERRANCE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT CUBENSIS. The mushrooms he ate. 5.2 grams of and had that experience, are 3-4 times stronger than cubensis..


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Re: 30-60grams of magic mushrooms??? how is that? [Re: Hyper]
    #23934081 - 12/17/16 12:12 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Hyper said:
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WhoManBeing said:
Fresh mushrooms weigh more. Maybe so that those numbers.





Well the guy did mention Terrance McKenna and said he didn't think 5g was very much. I think he's talking about dry.]




What? When the hell did Kilindi Lyi ever say that? He's said 3 grams is amazing but you're saying that he said 5 grams wasn't much? I don't believe that unless it's somewhere in the video you posted. Never have I heard Kilindi Lyi say 5 grams was not a heroic dose and I don't believe he would ever say that. Just because he takes much more doesn't mean he doesn't think 5 grams is a really good dose because it is.


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Re: 30-60grams of magic mushrooms??? how is that? [Re: whitelights] * 1
    #23934085 - 12/17/16 12:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Look, TERRANCE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT CUBENSIS. The mushrooms he ate. 5.2 grams of and had that experience, are 3-4 times stronger than cubensis..





That is not true he was talking about Stropharia Cubensis.


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Re: 30-60grams of magic mushrooms??? how is that? [Re: AuroraBorealis88] * 1
    #23934108 - 12/17/16 12:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

My bad then disregard that. As to op, ive eaten milligrams of LSD, and wouldn't ever consider eating more than a few grams of mushrooms, maybe a quarter or more at a few times during my life will that happen.


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Re: 30-60grams of magic mushrooms??? how is that? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23934724 - 12/17/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Hyper said:
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WhoManBeing said:
Fresh mushrooms weigh more. Maybe so that those numbers.





Well the guy did mention Terrance McKenna and said he didn't think 5g was very much. I think he's talking about dry.]




What? When the hell did Kilindi Lyi ever say that? He's said 3 grams is amazing but you're saying that he said 5 grams wasn't much? I don't believe that unless it's somewhere in the video you posted. Never have I heard Kilindi Lyi say 5 grams was not a heroic dose and I don't believe he would ever say that. Just because he takes much more doesn't mean he doesn't think 5 grams is a really good dose because it is.






within he first 20 minutes or so of the original video i posted. He didnt say it wasnt a heroic dose. He said it wasnt that much or something to that effect

Furthermore:



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Re: 30-60grams of magic mushrooms??? how is that? [Re: Hyper]
    #23934756 - 12/17/16 08:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

So, my typical trip starts at 5g-7g and I've gone as high as 9g.  Here's what I can tell you from my experiences:

1g-3g = I feel the body buzz and clarity.
3g - 5g = The clarity increases and my perception is "wiggly".  Roads turn into rivers of asphalt and appear longer than they are.  I feel like my arms are 7ft long, but they don't look 7 ft long.
5g - 7g = CEV's, impaired motor function, probably going to vomit a few times. 
7g - 9g = Definitely vomiting at least 3 times at some point, CEV's, OEV's, impaired everything...I'm just going to lay in a bed and hope for the best.

The first time I ever did shrooms, I grew them myself and then my girlfriend and I ate them by the handfuls out of the container.  I can't tell you how much I did that night.  2 or 3 handfuls over the course of an hour?  Maybe?  I can't remember much of that night except wanting to tear my skin off my bones.


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Re: 30-60grams of magic mushrooms??? how is that? [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #23934779 - 12/17/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Once when I was 17 I bought a qwap of some cubes from a friend to make a few hundred bucks. My girlfriend and I along with 2 of my best friends went to trip at m8 number ones house.

I had a pretty high tolerance at this point, I was tripping on these cubes once a week to twice a week for about a few weeks. I was also eating L once a week or with the cubes. I add this because I think this is why I was able to remain semi conscious during this experience.

So m8 number 1 and m8 number 2 both ate a q, as did my girlfriend and I. We all proceeded to take 4 hits of some Fluff. it wasnt amazing likely only 70 to 80ugs a piece.

After about 40 minutes my girlfriend had to go home so I started walking with her, Now heres where It gets shwifty...

When I trip I fidget a lot or usually do something like bounce my leg or lick my lips, something of the sort. Well Long story short I walk my girlfriend home (25 minute walk). We both stayed silent then we get back and she says,

"hunny... im really worried about you.. I know you trip a lot but Im not sure your gonna be in a great place..." to my dismay I realized I had been eating out of one of the oz bags the entire walk... I sprinted back to m8 1s house and there was only 2 gs left.... m8 2 was passed out and m8 one was quickly informed of my plight by an incredibly panaicd me.

Right then, m8 number 1 does the most Boss thing that your m8 can do when your jumping down that rabbit hole, the son of a bitch grabbed one of my zips (ounces) nomed the whole thing and we split a ten strip.

I have never tripped this hard in my life, nor that long, nor thrown up so much, nor had so many horrifing, terrifying, and enlighting/hilarious things ever happend to me at once. Ill save the trip for a trip report one day if I ever feel like writing this is already to long winded for a thread I feel like.

There is a thershold on how high you can really get before your body says no and just rejects everything violently. I threw up a LOT of black vomit. (blood) im sure i tore the fuck out of my stomach lining. I would not recommend.

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Re: 30-60grams of magic mushrooms??? how is that? [Re: growlingmycelium]
    #23934911 - 12/17/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Supposedly your 5ht receptors are saturated at around 1mg of LSD, which is more or less a 10 strip. I don't know exactly what an equivalent dose of mushrooms is, but I'm sure it's well under 60 grams, probably no more than 30 even. So if you're wondering what eating all of that is like imagine taking a hundred dollar bill and throwing it down a sewer drain. It's kind of like that.


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Re: 30-60grams of magic mushrooms??? how is that? [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #23934931 - 12/17/16 09:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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1g-3g = I feel the body buzz and clarity.




You really make it sound quite boring. Also there's a huge difference between 1 and 3 grams.


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krypto2000 saidSupposedly your 5ht receptors are saturated at around 1mg of LSD, which is more or less a 10 strip. I don't know exactly what an equivalent dose of mushrooms is, but I'm sure it's well under 60 grams, probably no more than 30 even.




More like no more than 12 - 14 grams.
Yea sorry but high doses of LSD are still nothing compared to high doses of mushrooms.


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Re: 30-60grams of magic mushrooms??? how is that? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23934953 - 12/17/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, 12-14 sounds right. I wasn't trying to make a real guess at where that cutoff is, but I'm sure 30-60 is well above that saturation point. Have you done 1mg of LSD or 14g of mushrooms? I think mushrooms are more crazy and take you further, but I've also probably eaten higher doses relative to my acid trips.


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Re: 30-60grams of magic mushrooms??? how is that? [Re: krypto2000]
    #23934971 - 12/17/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Not a whole milligram but on my highest trip the dose is estimated to have been about 800 to 850ug but imo even 12 to 14 grams would be stronger than 1 mg.

I've never taken more than 8 grams of shrooms but that still greatly outdid the 800/850ug LSD trip. I bet even just 9 grams of mush could take you farther than 1 mg of L.


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Re: 30-60grams of magic mushrooms??? how is that? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23935063 - 12/17/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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1g-3g = I feel the body buzz and clarity.




You really make it sound quite boring. Also there's a huge difference between 1 and 3 grams.





For you, yes, there is a huge difference between 1g and 3g.  For me, the difference is not that noticeable.  For you, 1g-3g is exciting.  For me, 1g-3g isn't anything to write a trip report about.


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Re: 30-60grams of magic mushrooms??? how is that? [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #23935084 - 12/17/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It is true that shrooms in very high doses are indistinguishable from DMT? I know they are extremely related in to each other in molecular structure. Also, I want to thank everyone here.  It seems like shrooms help you care about the planet.


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Re: 30-60grams of magic mushrooms??? how is that? [Re: moment467]
    #23935096 - 12/17/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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It is true that shrooms in very high doses are indistinguishable from DMT? I know they are extremely related in to each other in molecular structure. Also, I want to thank everyone here.  It seems like shrooms help you care about the planet.




DMT will always be by itself on a pedestal, as far as visuals go.

The two may be vaguely similar on a molecular level, but the only real similarity is that they both allow you to see the spirit realm, albeit just different levels and spectrums.



As far as this topic goes, how are 30+ gram doses?

They are very uncomfortable physically, but they can also be very mind blowing. It is my theory that you may be able to handle these heroic doses with no discomfort eventually. Depends on how you ingest them.


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Re: 30-60grams of magic mushrooms??? how is that? [Re: Get Shwifty]
    #23935112 - 12/17/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Wow, you have done thirty? I think it would also be dependent on how often we trip and so on so forth. I have not tripped in over over 14 years. So, I plan on starting with five. However, I do want to communicate w entities at high dose, eventually.


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