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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23938087 - 12/18/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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ots not so much who fabricated the facts as who believes them. These fake news sites target conservatives because liberals tend not to believe fake news. Conservatives can't seem to discern fake news from real news





hahahaha... did a youtube video result in a terrorist attack in benghazi?



It was used as cover for the attack. The attack was planned because there were video protests at consulates all over the Arab world.




so you believe the fake news when it comes from liberal sources, clinton claimed
the video was the cause and knew full well that was false when she made the
statements to the press.








The mastermind of the attack has stated that they used the protests as cover for their attack.

http://fair.org/uncategorized/fox-covers-up-a-benghazi-story/
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Fighters involved in the assault, which was spearheaded by a Islamist brigade formed during last year’s uprising against Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, said in interviews during the battle that they were moved to attack the mission by anger over a 14-minute, American-made video that depicted the Prophet Muhammad, Islam’s founder, as a villainous, homosexual and child-molesting buffoon. Their attack followed by just a few hours the storming of the compound surrounding the United States Embassy in Cairo by an unarmed mob protesting the same video.




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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23938096 - 12/18/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Economic policy isn't what allocates resources. Economic policy did in the USSR, and they had empty factories because since mercantilism, capitalism is the next system that works. Liberals just follow a religion thy has already failed


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23938098 - 12/18/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Either way, conservatism is highly correlated with economic failure.





and as we know, correlation is not causation



so why does it happen, why do conservative policies end up tanking the economy, like under Bush?




which bush policy cause the housing bubble to pop, which one created the housing
bubble? which bush policy created the banks that were too big to fail or stopped the
auditing of fanny mae and freddy mac, which bush policy was it that cause the market
to drop and land us in a recession?


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23938106 - 12/18/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Economic policy isn't what allocates resources. Economic policy did in the USSR, and they had empty factories because since mercantilism, capitalism is the next system that works. Liberals just follow a religion thy has already failed



Capitalism is going to fail the people. We will have to move to a socialist structure to survive. Automation is going to make human resources more and more irrelevant and unless we learn how to share the benefits of this progress across society, we will become irrelevant ourselves.


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
    #23938109 - 12/18/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The mastermind of the attack has stated that they used the protests as cover for their attack.

http://fair.org/uncategorized/fox-covers-up-a-benghazi-story/
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Fighters involved in the assault, which was spearheaded by a Islamist brigade formed during last year’s uprising against Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, said in interviews during the battle that they were moved to attack the mission by anger over a 14-minute, American-made video that depicted the Prophet Muhammad, Islam’s founder, as a villainous, homosexual and child-molesting buffoon. Their attack followed by just a few hours the storming of the compound surrounding the United States Embassy in Cairo by an unarmed mob protesting the same video.








you're still believing the fake news and propagating it


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23938120 - 12/18/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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which bush policy cause the housing bubble to pop, which one created the housing
bubble? which bush policy created the banks that were too big to fail or stopped the
auditing of fanny mae and freddy mac, which bush policy was it that cause the market
to drop and land us in a recession?



what did Bush do to solve those problems?


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23938121 - 12/18/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Either way, conservatism is highly correlated with economic failure.





and as we know, correlation is not causation



so why does it happen, why do conservative policies end up tanking the economy, like under Bush?




which bush policy cause the housing bubble to pop, which one created the housing
bubble? which bush policy created the banks that were too big to fail or stopped the
auditing of fanny mae and freddy mac, which bush policy was it that cause the market
to drop and land us in a recession?



Bush's ownership society bullshit. The repeal of glass-stegal, which was a conservative dream policy. Conservatism is a scourge on society. You'll see. Were gonna have for year to prove what a distaster it is. All of Obama's gains will be wiped out, like the best performing stock market in a century  (after Clinton, another liberal economic disaster, right? Lol). Liberals fix conservative fuck ups, time after time.


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23938127 - 12/18/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The mastermind of the attack has stated that they used the protests as cover for their attack.

http://fair.org/uncategorized/fox-covers-up-a-benghazi-story/
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Fighters involved in the assault, which was spearheaded by a Islamist brigade formed during last year’s uprising against Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, said in interviews during the battle that they were moved to attack the mission by anger over a 14-minute, American-made video that depicted the Prophet Muhammad, Islam’s founder, as a villainous, homosexual and child-molesting buffoon. Their attack followed by just a few hours the storming of the compound surrounding the United States Embassy in Cairo by an unarmed mob protesting the same video.








you're still believing the fake news and propagating it




You just want to believe what you want to believe. The fucking terrorist who organized the attack says he was inspired by the video. Keep living in your bubble.

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Last Sunday, Abu Khattala was captured by US special forces in Benghazi as a suspect in the attacks. Two days later, the Times’ Kirkpatrick (6/17/14) published a profile of Khattala recounting his remarks about the attackers’ motives. Khattala also repeated his claim in an interview with New Yorker writer Mary Fitzgerald last April, published three days ago (6/18/14):
He also maintained that the violence in Benghazi that night grew out of a protest against a movie produced in the United States that lampooned Islam and the Prophet Muhammad, rather than being a planned action by militants.
Since the attacks, even after Abu Khattala’s arrest, despite many prominent reports about him  and others citing the Internet video as the motive for the attacks, Fox News has never seen fit to mention his contention.




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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23938131 - 12/18/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Economic policy isn't what allocates resources. Economic policy did in the USSR, and they had empty factories because since mercantilism, capitalism is the next system that works. Liberals just follow a religion thy has already failed



you are inept at following a point, and making one.

you have an economic policy if resources are being allocated. without one, people are essentially bartering...you want mercantilism? when the protection rackets come, what do you do?

but of course you don't want that. you want capitalism. you know that capitalism is an economic system


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
    #23938140 - 12/18/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Economic policy isn't what allocates resources. Economic policy did in the USSR, and they had empty factories because since mercantilism, capitalism is the next system that works. Liberals just follow a religion thy has already failed



Capitalism is going to fail the people. We will have to move to a socialist structure to survive. Automation is going to make human resources more and more irrelevant and unless we learn how to share the benefits of this progress across society, we will become irrelevant ourselves.






socialist, such as government takes control of the means of production and we all live on welfare?


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
    #23938148 - 12/18/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The mastermind of the attack has stated that they used the protests as cover for their attack.

http://fair.org/uncategorized/fox-covers-up-a-benghazi-story/
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Fighters involved in the assault, which was spearheaded by a Islamist brigade formed during last year’s uprising against Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, said in interviews during the battle that they were moved to attack the mission by anger over a 14-minute, American-made video that depicted the Prophet Muhammad, Islam’s founder, as a villainous, homosexual and child-molesting buffoon. Their attack followed by just a few hours the storming of the compound surrounding the United States Embassy in Cairo by an unarmed mob protesting the same video.








you're still believing the fake news and propagating it




You just want to believe what you want to believe. The fucking terrorist who organized the attack says he was inspired by the video. Keep living in your bubble.




your article is published on one of the worst fake news sites out there


but your insistence that the state department didnt know even though hillary's
emails state she knew the attack wasnt just a protest just reinforces the tone
that you believe the fake news


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23938158 - 12/18/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Economic policy isn't what allocates resources. Economic policy did in the USSR, and they had empty factories because since mercantilism, capitalism is the next system that works. Liberals just follow a religion thy has already failed



Capitalism is going to fail the people. We will have to move to a socialist structure to survive. Automation is going to make human resources more and more irrelevant and unless we learn how to share the benefits of this progress across society, we will become irrelevant ourselves.






socialist, such as government takes control of the means of production and we all live on welfare?




No the means of production will be controlled by corporations and their robots. No need for workers. Should everyone benefit from technology or just the people who own the technology.


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
    #23938166 - 12/18/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Economic policy isn't what allocates resources. Economic policy did in the USSR, and they had empty factories because since mercantilism, capitalism is the next system that works. Liberals just follow a religion thy has already failed



Capitalism is going to fail the people. We will have to move to a socialist structure to survive. Automation is going to make human resources more and more irrelevant and unless we learn how to share the benefits of this progress across society, we will become irrelevant ourselves.






socialist, such as government takes control of the means of production and we all live on welfare?




No the means of production will be controlled by corporations and their robots. No need for workers. Should everyone benefit from technology or just the people who own the technology.





you ever work with a robot?


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23938168 - 12/18/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The mastermind of the attack has stated that they used the protests as cover for their attack.

http://fair.org/uncategorized/fox-covers-up-a-benghazi-story/






you're still believing the fake news and propagating it




You just want to believe what you want to believe. The fucking terrorist who organized the attack says he was inspired by the video. Keep living in your bubble.




your article is published on one of the worst fake news sites out there


but your insistence that the state department didnt know even though hillary's
emails state she knew the attack wasnt just a protest just reinforces the tone
that you believe the fake news




It wasn't just a protest. Nobody is saying it was. It's was inspired by the video and the protests.


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
    #23938176 - 12/18/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Economic policy isn't what allocates resources. Economic policy did in the USSR, and they had empty factories because since mercantilism, capitalism is the next system that works. Liberals just follow a religion thy has already failed



you are inept at following a point, and making one.

you have an economic policy if resources are being allocated. without one, people are essentially bartering...you want mercantilism? when the protection rackets come, what do you do?

but of course you don't want that. you want capitalism. you know that capitalism is an economic system



Corporations and people make their own economic policies based on their economic wants and needs.

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Economic policy isn't what allocates resources. Economic policy did in the USSR, and they had empty factories because since mercantilism, capitalism is the next system that works. Liberals just follow a religion thy has already failed



Capitalism is going to fail the people. We will have to move to a socialist structure to survive. Automation is going to make human resources more and more irrelevant and unless we learn how to share the benefits of this progress across society, we will become irrelevant ourselves.



Capitalism doesn't fail, it adjusts. Has any run our for example, the price will just rise or it will get replaced by a more viable alternative.

I think you dystopian idea of most things being automated and is getting payed for that is very unlikely, like the one world governmemt idea, because of how people are. It's fucking stupid.

We should define things though. When I say liberal and conservative, I'm only referring to the ideas of centralized economic controller vs people and corporations being free to use capital aa they want


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23938179 - 12/18/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Capitalism is going to fail the people. We will have to move to a socialist structure to survive. Automation is going to make human resources more and more irrelevant and unless we learn how to share the benefits of this progress across society, we will become irrelevant ourselves.






socialist, such as government takes control of the means of production and we all live on welfare?




No the means of production will be controlled by corporations and their robots. No need for workers. Should everyone benefit from technology or just the people who own the technology.





you ever work with a robot?



I just used one a the grocery store where they have replaced half their cashiers with self checkout machines. What do you think will happen to this country if half the jobs are replaced by machines. You think that unemployment of 50% is a stable situation under our current economic system? That day will come and it can either be viewed as a great leap forwaRd in human civilization or one where bitter assholes will just call the unemployed lazy leeches.


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
    #23938185 - 12/18/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I think you dystopian idea of most things being automated and is getting payed for that is very unlikely, like the one world governmemt idea, because of how people are. It's fucking stupid.



Lol. What kind of person thinks of a society where humans have been freed from the burden of labor as dystopian?

Probably the same kind of person who thinks that Mexicans and Chinese have stolen out jobs when in reality 85% of manufacturing jobs this century have been lost to automation.

Transportation is the number one economic sector in this country and a huge number of those jobs are going to vanish in the next decade. We have to either face that economic reality with real leadership, or we can continue to elect popularist buffoons who lie to the people who have lost their jobs saying they will be back. They won't. They are gone forever.


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
    #23938200 - 12/18/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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It wasn't just a protest. Nobody is saying it was. It's was inspired by the video and the protests.





so a spontaneous protest that just happened inspired a terrorist attack on 2 sites

CLINTON'S EMAILS STATED THAT IT WAS A PLANNED ATTACK

hillary told the american people it was nothing more than a protest that was
caused by a video, will you ever stop believing in your fake news? oh, right,
you still believe the protests were a cover for an attack because fair.org, the
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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23938209 - 12/18/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It was a planned attack. It was planned earlier in the afternoon according to those who planned it


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
    #23938223 - 12/18/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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you ever work with a robot?



I just used one a the grocery store where they have replaced half their cashiers with self checkout machines.





that's not a robot, that's the corporation training you to do the job of the cashier


this is a robot, it needs an operator and it needs maintenance personnel that include software programming and hardware repairs




this is a robot, it needs an operator and it needs maintenance personnel that include software programming and hardware repairs




I work with robots on a daily basis, what's supposed to save labor and eliminate
people actually has created more jobs because now we have to have people to do the
job of the robot when the robot is down, a frequent thing, and we have to have
people to work on the robots, it's usually 3 people doing this

we just got rid of 2 robots, they were welding robots, they didnt load the parts
themselves, they didnt remove the parts, they were not consistent int he welds and
their quality issues exceeded the number of errors from the humans doing the jobs


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