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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
    #23938484 - 12/18/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The free market isn't a fantasy, it's a Western enlightenment idea. Like capitalism, it has done well, because capitalism  isn't about humans who don't know anything controlling a system they can't. Controlling an economy is like trying to Controll some great natural force.

I'm more worried about the decay of the human body as we no longer so much of anything. The future is difficult to fully predict, and despite the trends you make yourself look insane with the definitive time of your proclamations. I hope we find a more thoughtful way




4.2 million manufacturing jobs were lost to automation in the past 16 years. These are not simply predictions about the future. This shit is already happening.

Did trump say anything about automation during the campaign? I don't remember him mentioning it once despite the fact that it was the robots taking his supporters jobs. I guess it's hard to build a wall to keep out the future.





obama said he created 14 million new jobs so isnt that a net increase of 10
million jobs? it seems that there are 3.5 new jobs created for every robot
they put to work. I count that as a win

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/13/news/economy/obama-jobs-state-of-the-union/




Yes, it's very impressive that despite the robots taking over Obama still added jobs. One of the greatest presidents of all time. A hero for the masses





it's a shame all those were jobs for robots, illegals and chinese manufacturers


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
    #23938486 - 12/18/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Yes, it's very impressive that despite the robots taking over Obama still added jobs. One of the greatest presidents of all time. A hero for the masses




Obama didn't add jobs ... Jobs were added while he was president.  Big difference.

The best jobs of his presidency were created through energy projects, mostly fracking, that he vehemently opposed.  Much of the economic progress we experienced was in contrast to his own personal motivations for steering the economy.


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23938489 - 12/18/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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As I said, we need to find new purposes for people. It's a dangerous president. I know it sounds enticing to me to take that basic income and go like, see the country or something in a very frugal manner.



if people were frugal, and you cut down bureaucratic regulatory burden, it could work.

PS: *precedence.

PPS: Obama clearly didn't outperform anyone....


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #23938493 - 12/18/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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As I said, we need to find new purposes for people. It's a dangerous president. I know it sounds enticing to me to take that basic income and go like, see the country or something in a very frugal manner.




We need to find a way to get the bulk of the buying power on this planet focused on improving the planet ... better housing, water supplies, food production systems, garbage and fertilizing systems, better medical care.

An enormous amount of our globe's buying power and focus is simply spent serving or figuring out how to serve the wealthiest.  There are thousands and thousands of very important projects that would create fantastic jobs and meaning for more people, but the money for those projects is controlled by people more concerned about the designs on the 4th home.



We can't force people to invest in these things. You aren't just investing in better this or that, you invest in companies or contract companies to do what needs done. The government does this with some things like military contractors.

People don't seem to understand the like between public and private, which the public sector has skewed. Many people also seem to want our prosperity to allow the government to save us, which seems kind of bad


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23938501 - 12/18/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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As I said, we need to find new purposes for people.



People taste like chicken. Just sayin


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It's a dangerous president.




They both are



Why is it that conservatives don't know the difference between precedent and president?



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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23938509 - 12/18/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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We can't force people to invest in these things. You aren't just investing in better this or that, you invest in companies or contract companies to do what needs done. The government does this with some things like military contractors.

People don't seem to understand the like between public and private, which the public sector has skewed. Many people also seem to want our prosperity to allow the government to save us, which seems kind of bad




Everything starts with finding, electing and promoting better leaders.  Until that happens, I suspect the model of governing on this planet will continue to be collusion, building as much personal wealth as possible and manipulating the legal system to give the wealthiest an enormous advantage. 

We need to change dramatically the paradigm by which Corporate Boards are elected, for instance.  Giving Shareholders all the say is a mistake.  In Germany, for example, Labor gets to vote for  half the board seats ... that's a much better model.  We need a change in our constitution to create criteria for political leadership as well.

Other obvious changes like stronger anti-trust laws and enforcement, greater anti-monopoly legislation, tax incentives for smaller businesses and big tax incentives to "encourage" companies to shrink the pay gap in their companies.

All of these things would help ... a lot.


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #23938524 - 12/18/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Time for the whiny tweet of the day!!!



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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
    #23938525 - 12/18/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Why is it that conservatives don't know the difference between precedent and president?







4am shitter tweets, I recall you blaming a lot on autocorrect


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
    #23938529 - 12/18/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Time for the whiny tweet of the day!!!







double standard post of the day


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23938539 - 12/18/16 04:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Why is it that conservatives don't know the difference between precedent and president?






4am shitter tweets, I recall you blaming a lot on autocorrect



Unpresidented isn't a word.

Autocorrect probably told him that and he didn't believe it because the dictionary is a fake liberal conspiracy.


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23938551 - 12/18/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I like their ties.
We are always being manipulated by the media. Really, the last three elections at least the candidates are protected from talking about the real issues, we can't stop debates and force a fact check. It's all an embarrassment. These people are hopefully smarter then us. I heard trump is supposed to have a high IQ


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23938552 - 12/18/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

His IQ is unpresidented

Seriously though, his IQ is yuge



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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
    #23938566 - 12/18/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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His IQ is unpresidented

Seriously though, his IQ is yuge





You're just making me laugh and regret not being part of this time in history and voting for Trump.

I don't doubt he's smart. I don't doubt the Clintons are either. You gotta have some certain something to get so far. Also a clean internet history


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23938572 - 12/18/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

yes yes yes, everything is always so 'historical'.

Trump is on the fringe of what is really historical. the paradigm shift in terms of 'historical precedence' includes Trump as, maybe more than a footnote, but still a small portion of the shift in propensity to convolve the higher offices of our civilization with that of the lower rungs in class of the people.


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23938594 - 12/18/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Imagine if peeps used the same energy they put into these politicians to better themselves I swear they'd all be very successful right now.. Shit y'all probably would've been members of congress by now and would actually be able to make a difference, but no! Y'all too busy putting dildos in ur butts and whatnot


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: zZZz]
    #23938600 - 12/18/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

if i was to put all my efforts into one thing, i'd feel like i'd be wasting my life.



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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23938605 - 12/18/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Not if that one thing was ur life..


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: zZZz]
    #23938614 - 12/18/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

but life encompasses so much. the microcosm and macrocosm, the concept i mean, is interesting.

we have lawyers, and doctors, and agronomists, economists, gastronomists, mathematicians, engineers, and we have poets, writers, painters, film-makers, musicians, we have organizers, politicians, accountants, entrepreneurs, and psychologists....we have so many facets that make up the world around us, and it is constantly in flux.


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23938622 - 12/18/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Imagine if zzzz did something besides complaining about other people complaining.


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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23938629 - 12/18/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yea that's what I meant

our lives are everyone's lives too..


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