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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
#23938365 - 12/18/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: Tell us how capitalism is going to work when we don't need a large human labor force anymore?
The rich people will pay for robots to exterminate the ne'er do well bums
Stop posting until you're packed.
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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
#23938377 - 12/18/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: The protests had been ongoing for days across the Arab world. I guess you weren't paying attention.
were you there for the protests or did your fake news sources tell you this
Is this video faked? Are these "crisis actors" attacking the embassy in Cairo hours before the Benghazi attack?
oh, so there was no protest in libya and clinton just made that up but the attacks in benghazi was disguised as the cairo protest. none of this negates the fact that you're propagating fake lefty news or that clinton liked about the nature of the benghazi attack when he had knowledge that it wasnt simply a protest as she had claimed but was in fact a terrorist attack
BTW.. a protest at the cairo embasy isnt "all over the arab world"
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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Nobody cares about the bullshit Benghazi attack anymore. It was a hyped up story to derail the Clinton campaign.
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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
#23938395 - 12/18/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: Tell us how capitalism is going to work when we don't need a large human labor force anymore?
so you're saying the US should be a welfare state paid for by the corporations and you dont give a fuck about the impending doom of the world since we'll still have 7 billion consumers polluting the planet along with the big evil corporations
is this what you want for the world?

is this what you want for mankind?
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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
#23938409 - 12/18/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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specialpeopleclub said: I find it dystopian in the way that, if people don't work, finding purpose is difficult. People will stagnate, and if will be terrible for most unless being jello creatures that have all their needs met is a good thing.
Im not cynical about people, but purpose is difficult enough with the choices we have.
In your idea, we have a bunch of people not needing to do a thing, and programmers and highly skilled workers. You think the 1% has a lot now.
Well we need to figure out how to Not make it dystopian because it's going to happen. It's already happening. That's what's happened to the jobs that Donald trump promises to get back. He's not being honest even though people he's stoking dystopian fears instead of addressing the problem. Other counties are starting to consider the implications. Finland now has a universal basic income. That's a start.
UBI is a terrible idea. Western Europe is riding on the economic and militaristic peace we and post WWII fears have created. We would need a serious wealth surplus to do so, it would still maybe not be enough to live off of, and then we are just throwing money away on people who should be able bodied and working.
I suppose by the time I'm old, there won't be any real men or admirable people to look up to, just technodrones and needs waiting for the nutrient dropper
Well. Then you should campaign to ban robots because they are going to make human labor more and more irrelevant. You can whine all you want about what "should" be or you can deal with what will he. This is my main issue with conservative economics. It is based on ideology. Whether it be trickle down economics, or fantasies about the free market. The shit doesn't work in the real world, but they keep trying it nonetheless.
The free market isn't a fantasy, it's a Western enlightenment idea. Like capitalism, it has done well, because capitalism isn't about humans who don't know anything controlling a system they can't. Controlling an economy is like trying to Controll some great natural force.
I'm more worried about the decay of the human body as we no longer so much of anything. The future is difficult to fully predict, and despite the trends you make yourself look insane with the definitive time of your proclamations. I hope we find a more thoughtful way
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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
#23938412 - 12/18/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: Nobody cares about the bullshit Benghazi attack anymore. It was a hyped up story to derail the Clinton campaign.
the left doesnt care about the benghazi attack, the left doesnt care about anything but themselves, the left wants all the power with nothing to balance it out, the left wants to make all the rules and have all the control, they want to dictate all that we see, hear and do and their obfuscation of what is fake news and real news
so tell us again, how did the russians hack the election?
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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23938415 - 12/18/16 03:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Idk what it "should be" but our current economic model is not sustainable.
Now, let's get back to taking about Poutine hacking the US election.
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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
#23938417 - 12/18/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Now, let's get back to taking about Poutine hacking the US election.
so tell us again, how did the russians hack the election?
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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23938418 - 12/18/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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With cheese curds and gravy
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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
#23938424 - 12/18/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I said russins, not canadians
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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
#23938442 - 12/18/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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specialpeopleclub said: The free market isn't a fantasy, it's a Western enlightenment idea. Like capitalism, it has done well, because capitalism isn't about humans who don't know anything controlling a system they can't. Controlling an economy is like trying to Controll some great natural force.
I'm more worried about the decay of the human body as we no longer so much of anything. The future is difficult to fully predict, and despite the trends you make yourself look insane with the definitive time of your proclamations. I hope we find a more thoughtful way
4.2 million manufacturing jobs were lost to automation in the past 16 years. These are not simply predictions about the future. This shit is already happening.
Did trump say anything about automation during the campaign? I don't remember him mentioning it once despite the fact that it was the robots taking his supporters jobs. I guess it's hard to build a wall to keep out the future.
Meanwhile Clinton got bashed for being honest and telling people that coal is dead. Americans are dumb as rocks. Fucking morons in West Virginia love destroying themselves. If it isn't rampant drug abuse, it's black lung disease. http://www.npr.org/2016/12/15/505577680/advanced-black-lung-cases-surge-in-appalachia
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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
#23938450 - 12/18/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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specialpeopleclub said: The free market isn't a fantasy, it's a Western enlightenment idea. Like capitalism, it has done well, because capitalism isn't about humans who don't know anything controlling a system they can't. Controlling an economy is like trying to Controll some great natural force.
I'm more worried about the decay of the human body as we no longer so much of anything. The future is difficult to fully predict, and despite the trends you make yourself look insane with the definitive time of your proclamations. I hope we find a more thoughtful way
4.2 million manufacturing jobs were lost to automation in the past 16 years. These are not simply predictions about the future. This shit is already happening.
Did trump say anything about automation during the campaign? I don't remember him mentioning it once despite the fact that it was the robots taking his supporters jobs. I guess it's hard to build a wall to keep out the future.
obama said he created 14 million new jobs so isnt that a net increase of 10 million jobs? it seems that there are 3.5 new jobs created for every robot they put to work. I count that as a win
http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/13/news/economy/obama-jobs-state-of-the-union/
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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
#23938453 - 12/18/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: Meanwhile Clinton got bashed for being honest and telling people that coal is dead.
clinton got bashed because she's a retarded tool
BENGHAZI!
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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
#23938455 - 12/18/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The free market isn't a fantasy, it's a Western enlightenment idea. Like capitalism, it has done well, because capitalism isn't about humans who don't know anything controlling a system they can't. Controlling an economy is like trying to Controll some great natural force.
You can't control it or you can? You seem to think that the USSR was very capable of influencing its economy.
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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
#23938456 - 12/18/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Now how do we build a wall across time?
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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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koods said: Meanwhile Clinton got bashed for being honest and telling people that coal is dead.
clinton got bashed because she's a retarded tool
BENGHAZI!
LOOK, A SQUIRREL!!
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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23938462 - 12/18/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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specialpeopleclub said: The free market isn't a fantasy, it's a Western enlightenment idea. Like capitalism, it has done well, because capitalism isn't about humans who don't know anything controlling a system they can't. Controlling an economy is like trying to Controll some great natural force.
I'm more worried about the decay of the human body as we no longer so much of anything. The future is difficult to fully predict, and despite the trends you make yourself look insane with the definitive time of your proclamations. I hope we find a more thoughtful way
4.2 million manufacturing jobs were lost to automation in the past 16 years. These are not simply predictions about the future. This shit is already happening.
Did trump say anything about automation during the campaign? I don't remember him mentioning it once despite the fact that it was the robots taking his supporters jobs. I guess it's hard to build a wall to keep out the future.
obama said he created 14 million new jobs so isnt that a net increase of 10 million jobs? it seems that there are 3.5 new jobs created for every robot they put to work. I count that as a win
http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/13/news/economy/obama-jobs-state-of-the-union/
Yes, it's very impressive that despite the robots taking over Obama still added jobs. One of the greatest presidents of all time. A hero for the masses
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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: koods]
#23938465 - 12/18/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Meanwhile Clinton got bashed for being honest and telling people that coal is dead. Americans are dumb as rocks. Fucking morons in West Virginia love destroying themselves. If it isn't rampant drug abuse, it's black lung disease.
China will burn over 6 Billion tons of coal this year with a new coal fired plant coming on line every 10 days. About 2 Billion more tons burned in the rest of Asia.
Coal is nowhere near dead. There's an ENORMOUS market for it.
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As I said, we need to find new purposes for people. It's a dangerous president. I know it sounds enticing to me to take that basic income and go like, see the country or something in a very frugal manner.
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Re: Did Trump use catchy slogans to mislead the People? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
#23938480 - 12/18/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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specialpeopleclub said: As I said, we need to find new purposes for people. It's a dangerous president. I know it sounds enticing to me to take that basic income and go like, see the country or something in a very frugal manner.
We need to find a way to get the bulk of the buying power on this planet focused on improving the planet ... better housing, water supplies, food production systems, garbage and fertilizing systems, better medical care.
An enormous amount of our globe's buying power and focus is simply spent serving or figuring out how to serve the wealthiest. There are thousands and thousands of very important projects that would create fantastic jobs and meaning for more people, but the money for those projects is controlled by people more concerned about the designs on the 4th home.
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