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Too much LSD temporary blindness.
    #23931945 - 12/16/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Anyone have this happen? I only took 5 hits of blotter but had a terrible physical experience mentally everything was fine. It came and went though it wasn't the whole trip.  The longest it lasted was maybe a minute or 2. I also kept collapsing and lost use of my legs not because of an overwhelming euphoria though. 

The next day I had a horrible physical feeling take over as I woke up and collapsed again couldn't stand up for the life of me my legs kept failing, to think what would have happened if someone where driving would be horrible.

  I don't get if something was mixed in, but i thought temporary blindness is a sign of a LSD overdose.  Maybe too much was dropped on some of the blotter because two hits didn't do much of anything after 2 hours but the three more sent me over.


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #23932112 - 12/16/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Never had that happen to me..You sure its the LSD and not a different condition? Ive tripped every week, and took three 2 week breaks since February. I usually dose between 4-6 hits, have dosed to 1.2mg


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: LSDollar] * 2
    #23932137 - 12/16/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You must be getting shitty L if you say you "only took 5 hits". 2 hits of good L would have you tripping balls. I took 6 hits of really good L advertised as "120 mcg" and I couldnt see shit until like the 10 hour mark. And everything was fine when I came down. Do you take any medications and are you sure its real lsd?


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: LSDollar]
    #23932140 - 12/16/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It's the only time anything like this has happened, I just thought maybe it was missed dosed.  I have a brain tumor but it's benign and was told it would cause no problems.


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: Psyche delics]
    #23932147 - 12/16/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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You must be getting shitty L if you say you "only took 5 hits". 2 hits of good L would have you tripping balls. I took 6 hits of really good L advertised as "120 mcg" and I couldnt see shit until like the 10 hour mark. And everything was fine when I came down. Do you take any medications and are you sure its real lsd?



It was blotter, it could have been miss dosed.


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #23932160 - 12/16/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Are you sure it was even LSD? Tho it does not surprise me if one could have a spell of temporary blindness. Kinda like overload of your senses or someting maybe? I have read about people getting "whiteouts" from high dose LSD and I have had a similar experience with mushrooms where things were hard to make out and decipher after a strong trip.


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #23932165 - 12/16/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

What do you mean by temporary blindness? Blurred vison? Blacked out? Overwhelming visions?


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #23932174 - 12/16/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Total blackness, and it was definitely LSD, later I took 3 about few weeks later and tripped very hard.


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #23932188 - 12/16/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

was it like lil brain zap things from trippin or was it like im having a seizure my brain is going haywire things? Or was it like wierd body load stuff?


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #23932202 - 12/16/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

The collapsing legs seems wierder to me than the blindness. Maybe more experienced members can help you?


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #23932205 - 12/16/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Prob blood pressure drop or some such, tripping has a way of disguising little things like laying down with your neck in a weird position


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #23932210 - 12/16/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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was it like lil brain zap things from trippin or was it like im having a seizure my brain is going haywire things? Or was it like wierd body load stuff?



Total negative physical effects nothing mental.  This is not to say it wasn't a mind-bending experience just poor physical one.


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: Psyche delics]
    #23932217 - 12/16/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The collapsing legs seems wierder to me than the blindness. Maybe more experienced members can help you?



That was the worst as funny as it may seem.


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #23932224 - 12/16/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

how long did the blindness last how did it happen was it like you were fainting?


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #23932230 - 12/16/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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how long did the blindness last how did it happen was it like you were fainting?



Nothing like fainting a bit, in fact it was just those two things the Vine this was only for a minute or two at most


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: JonBongGroovy] * 1
    #23932240 - 12/16/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yah idk maybe go to doctor n tell em what happened maybe they can run some tests or summin who noes could be u were jus trippin could be other wierder stuff. i mean u got the tumor n shit :shrug:


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #23932253 - 12/16/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Could a seizure or mini stroke cause these symptoms? Ive been thinking and maybe shocks to the system like that may cause those sort of symptoms? Im just thinking here and have no idea really what I am talking about.


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23932284 - 12/16/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe see a neurologist or something though theyll probably just tell you to stay away from lsd.


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: Psyche delics]
    #23932298 - 12/16/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Could a seizure or mini stroke cause these symptoms? Ive been thinking and maybe shocks to the system like that may cause those sort of symptoms? Im just thinking here and have no idea really what I am talking about.



Don't know found this though.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19221973


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #23932304 - 12/16/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

My sister in law apparently experienced temporary blindness on a fairly high-dose mushroom trip once. Not sure of any more details though.


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #23932313 - 12/16/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Could a seizure or mini stroke cause these symptoms? Ive been thinking and maybe shocks to the system like that may cause those sort of symptoms? Im just thinking here and have no idea really what I am talking about.




https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19221973




Thats just speculation about a one off situation, not a study or anything remotely conclusive.

I wouldnt be surprised if LSD could do such a thing, but its unreasonable to put much creedence into the idea at this point.


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23932344 - 12/16/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Could a seizure or mini stroke cause these symptoms? Ive been thinking and maybe shocks to the system like that may cause those sort of symptoms? Im just thinking here and have no idea really what I am talking about.




It sounds more like migraine type activity. transient vasoconstriction could cause both blindness and muscle weakness. LSD is derived from ergot which is notorious for affecting cerebral blood flow.

Also, OP you say you have a brain tumor? Where? I'm not sure if you should be taking drugs that effect the brain if you have a tumor. You don't know how drugs may affect things if you have an abnormal neurology.


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: koods]
    #23932367 - 12/16/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Could a seizure or mini stroke cause these symptoms? Ive been thinking and maybe shocks to the system like that may cause those sort of symptoms? Im just thinking here and have no idea really what I am talking about.




It sounds more like migraine type activity. transient vasoconstriction could cause both blindness and muscle weakness. LSD is derived from ergot which is notorious for affecting cerebral blood flow.

Also, OP you say you have a brain tumor? Where? I'm not sure if you should be taking drugs that effect the brain if you have a tumor. You don't know how drugs may affect things if you have an abnormal neurology.



The tumor is in the center of my brain neurologist said it shouldn't cause any problems it's too small to do anything at all


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23932373 - 12/16/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Could a seizure or mini stroke cause these symptoms? Ive been thinking and maybe shocks to the system like that may cause those sort of symptoms? Im just thinking here and have no idea really what I am talking about.




https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19221973




Thats just speculation about a one off situation, not a study or anything remotely conclusive.

I wouldnt be surprised if LSD could do such a thing, but its unreasonable to put much creedence into the idea at this point.



I think it's more about the migraines... Maybe the lsd was to treat them.


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #23932382 - 12/16/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #23932427 - 12/16/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Guess I misread it

Damn man, center of the brain, scary thought


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #23932515 - 12/16/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Could a seizure or mini stroke cause these symptoms? Ive been thinking and maybe shocks to the system like that may cause those sort of symptoms? Im just thinking here and have no idea really what I am talking about.




It sounds more like migraine type activity. transient vasoconstriction could cause both blindness and muscle weakness. LSD is derived from ergot which is notorious for affecting cerebral blood flow.

Also, OP you say you have a brain tumor? Where? I'm not sure if you should be taking drugs that effect the brain if you have a tumor. You don't know how drugs may affect things if you have an abnormal neurology.




Your messing with your brain chemistry i've seen many strange physical reactions to high dose LSD and you have a brain tumor. If you must trip, LOWER YOUR DOSE.


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23932539 - 12/16/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: ChemicalSpark]
    #23932609 - 12/16/16 02:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds like a blood pressure issue.


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: Psyche delics]
    #23932699 - 12/16/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Maybe see a neurologist or something though theyll probably just tell you to stay away from lsd.





this was my experience. could be seizure related... no telling though without tests and stuff, but since it's drug related, you won't get far with the docs.. "ok... stop taking drugs then" is the answer you will get.


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: koods]
    #23932706 - 12/16/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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http://www.allaboutvision.com/conditions/ocular-migraine.htm




have you ever had a migraine with aura..? they are not really like what OP described...


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    #23932747 - 12/16/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Could a seizure or mini stroke cause these symptoms? Ive been thinking and maybe shocks to the system like that may cause those sort of symptoms? Im just thinking here and have no idea really what I am talking about.




It sounds more like migraine type activity. transient vasoconstriction could cause both blindness and muscle weakness. LSD is derived from ergot which is notorious for affecting cerebral blood flow.

Also, OP you say you have a brain tumor? Where? I'm not sure if you should be taking drugs that effect the brain if you have a tumor. You don't know how drugs may affect things if you have an abnormal neurology.




Your messing with your brain chemistry i've seen many strange physical reactions to high dose LSD and you have a brain tumor. If you must trip, LOWER YOUR DOSE.



I've taken 600 Mcg of 1p- LSD and was fine I know it's not remotely the same but thought it counts for something.


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #23932794 - 12/16/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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    #23932861 - 12/16/16 04:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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:facepalm:



That's not that much plus I took two and waited 2 hours.


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    #23932885 - 12/16/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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http://www.allaboutvision.com/conditions/ocular-migraine.htm




have you ever had a migraine with aura..? they are not really like what OP described...



Yep. I went 75% blind for 10 minutes, vision came back and then the headache started.


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: koods]
    #23933045 - 12/16/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I have had blinding migraines as well. It was more like everything was getting dark and blurry kinda like passing out but not. I know lsd can treat them but I think they can induce them as well. I have had trips where I would get an extremely splitting headache. Weed usually helped tho it seems.


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23933072 - 12/16/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Same thing happened to a friend of mine this summer at a show.  We all thought the visuals were overwhelming him and he had to sit down.  Turns out everything went black for a few minutes and he wasn't receiving any images from his eyes at all.  It shook him up quite a bit and he still hasn't tripped again.  We never really figured out why it happened. 

How did you find out about the tumor?  Lots of headaches and pains or what?


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http://www.allaboutvision.com/conditions/ocular-migraine.htm




have you ever had a migraine with aura..? they are not really like what OP described...



This is similar to what I had



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    #23933080 - 12/16/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Same thing happened to a friend of mine this summer at a show.  We all thought the visuals were overwhelming him and he had to sit down.  Turns out everything went black for a few minutes and he wasn't receiving any images from his eyes at all.  It shook him up quite a bit and he still hasn't tripped again.  We never really figured out why it happened. 

How did you find out about the tumor?  Lots of headaches and pains or what?



Most likely this is cortical blindness. The eyes work fine, the part of the brain that processes vision is the problem. Obviously, lsd has very significant effects in the visual cortex so it's quite possible that it just stops working properly for short periods


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #23933669 - 12/16/16 08:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I don't care what some people say 500ug of LSD is a whopping dose (300ug can be mindblowing). Gems like 1P-LSD and ALD-52 are much less toxic (much less vasoconstriction and easier on the psyche), not that LSD is toxic, but it can cause significant (but not dangerous) vasoconstriction in some people.



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    #23934144 - 12/17/16 12:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds more like low blood pressure.


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    #23934160 - 12/17/16 12:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

seriouly sounds like the case of dehydration OP


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    #23934515 - 12/17/16 05:00 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Sounds more like low blood pressure.



People whose blood pressure goes so low their vision drops out would be incapable of standing. Almost certainly they would pass out within a few seconds of losing their vision.


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    #23934568 - 12/17/16 05:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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seriouly sounds like the case of dehydration OP



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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: koods]
    #23935360 - 12/17/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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hTx said:
Sounds more like low blood pressure.



People whose blood pressure goes so low their vision drops out would be incapable of standing. Almost certainly they would pass out within a few seconds of losing their vision.




Ive had this happen many times to varying degrees, collapsing at times, but you make a good point. 2min is a long time for that feeling to last, 20sec seems more reasonable; it would also be easy to draw the correlation.

Sounds pretty fucked


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Re: Too much LSD temporary blindness. [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23935386 - 12/17/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'd say its over stimulus and maybe the receptors in your eyes just try to dull your vision because naturally darkness helps migraines.


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