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DeadPhan



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is this vermiculite suitable for monos?
#23931804 - 12/16/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's labeled as for swimming pools. But is vermiculite vermiculite vermiculite? If so I guess I'd have to still contact the seller to see if it's fine or coarse. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M8HK54P/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_N8avybK1T8F7C
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Re: is this vermiculite suitable for monos? [Re: DeadPhan]
#23931805 - 12/16/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice hats!
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Th3Issu3
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Re: is this vermiculite suitable for monos? [Re: emitorx]
#23931848 - 12/16/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not sure, but every time I buy verm. It says horticulture vermiculite on it.
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Re: is this vermiculite suitable for monos? [Re: Th3Issu3]
#23931880 - 12/16/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Same not sure but if youre going to order just order the horticulture coarse grade or go to home depot or lowes to get it, its about 5 a bag and have larger bags. Use what is known to work unless trying to experiment on things.
Edited by tripo3 (12/16/16 09:50 AM)
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LocN9ne
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Re: is this vermiculite suitable for monos? [Re: tripo3]
#23931885 - 12/16/16 09:51 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm fairly certain vermiculite is vermiculite...
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Re: is this vermiculite suitable for monos? [Re: tripo3]
#23931892 - 12/16/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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google image the shit.
it seems to be the really big flaky shit you get with crappy growbags.
the companies webpage shows they also sell horticultural grade. id stick with that
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Re: is this vermiculite suitable for monos? [Re: mushboy]
#23932154 - 12/16/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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How fine should your verm be anyway? I have some last leftovers off a big and it's just dust pretty much. When I made PF cakes with it they turned out a little weird.
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Re: is this vermiculite suitable for monos? [Re: Tiamo]
#23932173 - 12/16/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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i like finer verm. and for cakes i like a chunkier rice mixture. i want the verm to coat the chunks of flour.
big chunky verm is less useful. some people say it makes the substrate fluffier.
i say do grains if you want to improve on basic pf.(if you have a pc)
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Re: is this vermiculite suitable for monos? [Re: mushboy]
#23932183 - 12/16/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm already doing grains, but I like to do PF tek on the side. I went through my first bag of verm and have some dust left, think I'll just throw that away.
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Re: is this vermiculite suitable for monos? [Re: LocN9ne]
#23932237 - 12/16/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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LocN9ne said: I'm fairly certain vermiculite is vermiculite...
Youre good to go. Definitely worth your money too that's a great deal. Wish I could snatched that up. That's like 60 tubs worth of verm
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Edited by ComebackKid (12/16/16 11:50 AM)
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Re: is this vermiculite suitable for monos? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23932281 - 12/16/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hmmm tough question.
Industrial verm (i.e. verm used as insulation in houses, in pools, or any other use besides horticulture) is sometimes treated with toxic chemicals and/or not as refined as horticultural grade verm, it seems.
I don't know for sure if that stuff is treated in any way, but I wouldn't trust it
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Re: is this vermiculite suitable for monos? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23932300 - 12/16/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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LocN9ne said: I'm fairly certain vermiculite is vermiculite...
Youre good to go. Definitely worth your money too that's a great deal. Wish I could snatched that up. That's like 60 tubs worth of verm
Yea. That's why I was curious. The small bags they sell at home depot and shit are like only enough for like 2 tubs or so. And some reason where I live it's not that easy to find. There is a greenhouse supply store near me that sells 6 cubic feet of verm medium coarseness for 37 bux. Not horrible deal considering it would last for a lot of tubs. But for 4 cubic feet for 25 bux definitely better. But just gotta find out the grade.
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Re: is this vermiculite suitable for monos? [Re: DeadPhan]
#23932309 - 12/16/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would do more research on that shit man. Verm is the reason 40 or so million homes in America are contaminated with asbestos and horticultural verm is held to a higher standard than industrial. At least that's what I've been reading.
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Re: is this vermiculite suitable for monos? [Re: DeadPhan]
#23932318 - 12/16/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Grade shouldn't matter either man. Especially if you're throwing it in CVG. I would just go fo it. Unless what Natedawgnow says to be true that vermiculite would be treated with chemicals for some reason. Not sure why they would treat it with chemicals.. maybe to keep the dust down? If that's true then I wouldn't wanna find out the hard way
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Re: is this vermiculite suitable for monos? [Re: natedawgnow]
#23932326 - 12/16/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Verm used to be made with asbestos back in the day but you would be very hard pressed to find any being sold in this day and age. Unless you lived in a third world country.
Although that thing you mentioned about chemicals is staring to make more sense now. Asbestos was used for its fire retardant qualities. Now that there is no asbestos the verm may be treated with a fire retardant chemical??
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Re: is this vermiculite suitable for monos? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23932327 - 12/16/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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They treat industrial verm differently than horticultural. Sometimes it's sprayed with chemicals that keep down critter infestations, or molds since it will be in walls (even though verm is damn near mold proof), and other shit. It's not guaranteed, but it's not not guaranteed like horticultural verm is.
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Re: is this vermiculite suitable for monos? [Re: natedawgnow]
#23932335 - 12/16/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Verm wasn't necessarily made with asbestos, just mined in the same place that asbestos deposits existed, so the mines were contaminated for like 60 or so years before they finally found out. Some of that verm could still be in circulation especially if not from a reputable source
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Re: is this vermiculite suitable for monos? [Re: natedawgnow]
#23932345 - 12/16/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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True. Now I'm paranoid about breathing verm dust Thanks Natedawgnow! The 4 cubic ft dream is dead 
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Re: is this vermiculite suitable for monos? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23932347 - 12/16/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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goes to do research**
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