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cronicr



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Re: ms syringe shoot Or AGAR to grain? [Re: Mycolorado]
#23932682 - 12/16/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I print on wax paper lol
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Re: ms syringe shoot Or AGAR to grain? [Re: cronicr]
#23932691 - 12/16/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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not a bad idea. i always used foil. might try wax paper next time.
thanks gangstar
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Tiamo
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Re: ms syringe shoot Or AGAR to grain? [Re: mushboy]
#23932703 - 12/16/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I print on paper.
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Re: ms syringe shoot Or AGAR to grain? [Re: Tiamo]
#23932755 - 12/16/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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ive been thinking about wax paper print when i do foil it dries good but super dry lol
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cronicr



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Re: ms syringe shoot Or AGAR to grain? [Re: tripo3]
#23932762 - 12/16/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wax paper is great for your own use not so great for trades..it slides off easy
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Mycolorado
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Re: ms syringe shoot Or AGAR to grain? [Re: cronicr]
#23932803 - 12/16/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I like foil...folds nice and neat and is great for storage.
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Lobi
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Re: ms syringe shoot Or AGAR to grain? [Re: LocN9ne]
#23932829 - 12/16/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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LocN9ne said:
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eosphorus said: I go multispore to grain, clone a happy boom to agar, then use that agar to make LC, then LC back to grain.
 Start with agar in the first place...
It's 2016, the dark ages are over... Information is BEYOND readily available to anyone who actually wants to know about anything, agar included... While you can shoot spores to grains, Anyone not taking advantage of the benefits of agar is half assing shit and wasting their own time and money... There is no excuse for not using it unless you are doing pf tek, which I also feel is a half assed method considering.
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NDStepp84
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Re: ms syringe shoot Or AGAR to grain? [Re: Muskoka]
#23932931 - 12/16/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Muskoka said: who has an inoculation loop for solution? . Cmon guys lol this is getting bad. Don't take my lack of post on this site as inexperience . I made that distinction for novice growers to help out with terminology . I'm not a distinguished mycologists , I don't have a degree but I've read all their books and have too many years of growing experience to put up with this highshool shit. You can print on paper to inoculate agar. You print on paper just to keep your strain in safe keeping for a later date and don't have to carry around a syringe for ppl who travel and our moving location and wanna keep their strain in something other then a syringe
When someone wants to make a syringe they scrape some spores off the print into the shot glass to be drawn into the syringe. Most people print on foil, I'd imagine they would come off wax paper like Cron mentioned even easier. In RR's video series there is one on making syringes.
Fruiting is not a sterile process, the cleanest prints possible would be from invitro grows like V tek or pasty's invitro straw. I don't make syringes I just do loop or swab to agar with my prints, but if I order a new strain I get syringes and just do a drop on a plate because syringes are cheaper. Then I end up with several syringes that have less than a half cc used that I trade or give away.
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Th3Issu3
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Re: ms syringe shoot Or AGAR to grain? [Re: NDStepp84]
#23933458 - 12/16/16 07:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tin foil bro...
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wtfcrazymofo
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Re: ms syringe shoot Or AGAR to grain? [Re: Th3Issu3]
#23934487 - 12/17/16 04:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thank you everyone for your votes and answers. You guys are awesome. Agar rules, and is currently winning the in the vote box.
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eosphorus
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Re: ms syringe shoot Or AGAR to grain? [Re: LocN9ne]
#23935457 - 12/17/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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LocN9ne said:
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eosphorus said: I go multispore to grain, clone a happy boom to agar, then use that agar to make LC, then LC back to grain.
 Start with agar in the first place...
It's 2016, the dark ages are over... Information is BEYOND readily available to anyone who actually wants to know about anything, agar included... While you can shoot spores to grains, Anyone not taking advantage of the benefits of agar is half assing shit and wasting their own time and money... There is no excuse for not using it unless you are doing pf tek, which I also feel is a half assed method considering.
The amount of agar work I do is perfectly proportional to yours, I don't doubt; I take as much advantage from the methods as I need. My scheme may cost more money and take a little longer to get started, but my logic is this: why isolate a genetic individual on agar before you've seen its product? I make the same selection for strong mycelial growth as you do, I just do so later in my process.
Your method, the commonest method, selects only for a superior mycelial growth habit.
By cloning several prime specimens from the first strong flush of a MS grow, I know I a have good producers. From these individuals I select the one with the strongest mycelial growth on agar, and propagate it.
Once this work is done, I have an established line, which I can maintain until I get bored and neglect it!
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NDStepp84
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Re: ms syringe shoot Or AGAR to grain? [Re: eosphorus]
#23935509 - 12/17/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You don't have to isolate to use agar, a couple transfers just to make sure it's clean it is still MS same as a spore shoot except guaranteed clean. Most aren't isolating from spores they are just cleaning and expanding. There are so many strains present you would have to do somewhere around 10 transfers before you even begin to see sectoring usually.
Hardly no one isolates from MS on agar to do a grow, unless they just feel like doing a shit ton of agar work. Most just drop a MS agar culture to grain, grow it out take a few clones and test each one to isolate genetics.
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Edited by NDStepp84 (12/17/16 02:06 PM)
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KauaiOrca
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Re: ms syringe shoot Or AGAR to grain? [Re: NDStepp84]
#23935521 - 12/17/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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eosphorus said:
The amount of agar work I do is perfectly proportional to yours, I don't doubt; I take as much advantage from the methods as I need. My scheme may cost more money and take a little longer to get started, but my logic is this: why isolate a genetic individual on agar before you've seen its product? I make the same selection for strong mycelial growth as you do, I just do so later in my process.
Your method, the commonest method, selects only for a superior mycelial growth habit.
By cloning several prime specimens from the first strong flush of a MS grow, I know I a have good producers. From these individuals I select the one with the strongest mycelial growth on agar, and propagate it.
Once this work is done, I have an established line, which I can maintain until I get bored and neglect it!
There is more than one way to seduce the mushroom, my friend.
Agreed. Strong growing MS pins to agar has proven to be a relatively easy way to find a good culture.
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