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Re: its scary what love can do to your brain [Re: Apostle]
#23930103 - 12/15/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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*yawn*
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Re: its scary what love can do to your brain [Re: akira_akuma]
#23930172 - 12/15/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I tend to be a lot more conventional during relationships
Love is different than lust imo, I think love is the same for family as it is for sexual partners, but adding lust to the equation changes it... assuming one doesn't lust over family members. Its a lot easier to put a loved one aside if you mix in feelings of jealousy, sexual insecurities, etc. Personally I still love most of my ex's but realize we're a poor match.
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Re: its scary what love can do to your brain [Re: Repertoire89]
#23930212 - 12/15/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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love affections for family doesn't not have the same effect though, as love affections for a romantic/concupiscent interest.
love as a concept is malleable, i'd say (is what i mean).
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Re: its scary what love can do to your brain [Re: akira_akuma]
#23930252 - 12/15/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think the difference is its symbiotic connection with lust, and a closer physical connection
Different connections being changed by feelings of responsibility, comraderie, etc. As you said, malleable, but I think the base feeling is the same before being mixed with other emotions
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Re: its scary what love can do to your brain [Re: Repertoire89]
#23930303 - 12/15/16 05:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah, but that raises an interesting question...what is the bedrock assumptions about what love is? (CC raised this already, in a slightly different way)
you know, without all the other stuff mixed in.
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Re: its scary what love can do to your brain [Re: akira_akuma]
#23930312 - 12/15/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: its scary what love can do to your brain [Re: Repertoire89]
#23930318 - 12/15/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea I hate the way I'm so nice sometimes, then at the end of the day when I'm alone getting high or wutever I think back to those nice things I did and I'm like "why did I have to be so nice.. " or " why did I help that old lady cross the street"..
in this world sometimes u gotta be a dick
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Re: its scary what love can do to your brain [Re: Apostle]
#23930345 - 12/15/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Apostle said: Are you Caucasian American?
no offense to white folks but my white friends always seemed less tight-knit than the families of my hispanic friends and i.
For example my one white friend threw a screwdriver at his mom in an argument and another white friend of mine was kicked out at 16 yrs old just for having weed. Both things being completely unheard of in my reality. They also both ate mostly microwaved dinner items and weren't required to be at the table everynight for a family meal like me and my hispanic friends were. It probably has less to do with the white part and more to do with American but almost all of my friends were white and the pattern of extremely disrespectful kids and seemingly detached parents was prevalent. Some instances where parents called cops on their kids, something mine would never do .
Not the case with Irish Americans, but we have only been accepted as fully white in the past 100 years or so. I think you could probably say the same with Italians from what I have seen, where family comes before anything. I'm sure other ethnic groups too, but these ones I am intimately familiar with and I can say defy what you're saying for sure. I think you are right it is more the "American" part.
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Re: its scary what love can do to your brain [Re: zZZz]
#23930350 - 12/15/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said: yeah, but that raises an interesting question...what is the bedrock assumptions about what love is? (CC raised this already, in a slightly different way)
you know, without all the other stuff mixed in.
My view of love takes the spiritual route, being one with the substance of consciousness itself and the ethers which make up the whole of our collective consciousness, an inexpliable miracle.
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zZZz said: Yea I hate the way I'm so nice sometimes, then at the end of the day when I'm alone getting high or wutever I think back to those nice things I did and I'm like "why did I have to be so nice.. " or " why did I help that old lady cross the street"..
in this world sometimes u gotta be a dick
Next time punch that old lady in the ass
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Re: its scary what love can do to your brain [Re: Repertoire89] 1
#23930397 - 12/15/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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My view of love takes the spiritual route, being one with the substance of consciousness itself and the ethers which make up the whole of our collective consciousness, an inexpliable miracle.
i tend to agree.
once i experienced Shaktipat (a new phrase to me, recently- but it's definitely what it was), so i am convinced that...i haven't experienced true love to the capacity at which it is at it's zenith.
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Re: its scary what love can do to your brain [Re: akira_akuma]
#23930424 - 12/15/16 06:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said:
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My view of love takes the spiritual route, being one with the substance of consciousness itself and the ethers which make up the whole of our collective consciousness, an inexpliable miracle.
i tend to agree.
once i experienced Shaktipat (a new phrase to me, recently- but it's definitely what it was), so i am convinced that...i haven't experienced true love to the capacity at which it is at it's zenith.
Interesting, I had this privilege during initiations with my old guru, and during brief experiences of darsana with a few other venerable individuals.
For the past few years Ive been pretty washed up despite progress in one or another area, but as soon as possible I intend on seeking out communion again.
Personally I dont think one can ever experience the zenith of love or consciousness, even viewing life from the meta consciousness, it is too vast for individual perception. The journey never ends.
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Re: its scary what love can do to your brain [Re: Repertoire89]
#23930429 - 12/15/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Janus is a good representation of that.
but yes, no, it probably doesn't end- and there is that whole acceleration of the expansion of the universe thing, so there certainly no end, even physically; not in any way that'd be noticeable.
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Re: its scary what love can do to your brain [Re: akira_akuma]
#23930451 - 12/15/16 06:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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A shuddering vision appeared one day at the door of my house Pale spectre and shadow, as if the nose was a hole in the sky A shivering figure once dragged from the sea like a loathsome head Undressing before me, then tearing its flesh with demented glee Sha la la la la Sha la la la la Crept into the hallway, already at home on the carpet and walls Unpacking a suitcase, pale spectre in spare room and under my feet Now Jove he was half asleep for several hours that afternoon This unwanted creature crawled into a corner crying ‘Where is the moon?’ Sha la la la la Sha la la la la
Pale spectre and shadow cried, "Where is the moon tonight? It is like an enormous light" And I replied "Heaven’ll help you out, visitant, Heaven’ll help you out" "Heaven’ll help you out, visitant, Heaven’ll help you out" Pale spectre and shadow said, "Your tale is not quite right; it is just an outrageous lie" And I can’t deny Pale spectre and shadow cried, "Where is the moon tonight? It is like an enormous light And I replied I said sha la la la la . . . .
ohh yeah sha-la-la-la daaamn
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Re: its scary what love can do to your brain [Re: akira_akuma]
#23930491 - 12/15/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Someday Im going to come up to Canadia and we is gonna trip
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Re: its scary what love can do to your brain [Re: Repertoire89]
#23930502 - 12/15/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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oh yeah, you should.
you wouldn't have to worry about where to stay.
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Re: its scary what love can do to your brain [Re: akira_akuma]
#23930522 - 12/15/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah man, despite our occasional heated arguments you're one of my favorite posters here. I have family by the border, so its just a matter of renewing my passport and hopping on a bus.
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Re: its scary what love can do to your brain [Re: Repertoire89]
#23930634 - 12/15/16 07:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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oh yeah, i don't think there'd be any heated arguments obscurely nestled in the forest seeking visions.
but yeah, it would fun. i'll have to re-string my guitar.
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Re: its scary what love can do to your brain [Re: rogue_pixie]
#23931038 - 12/15/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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rogue_pixie said:
Love? Pfft. It's just an irrational attachment really. That's why you act weird when you 'fall in love'. It isn't healthy 
Good point. True love is not wanting something from someone.
When we "fall in love" we actually love how we feel, not the other person.
Love isn't obsession. The common phrase, "love hurts" should cause us pause.
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Re: its scary what love can do to your brain [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23931065 - 12/15/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: its scary what love can do to your brain [Re: akira_akuma]
#23931093 - 12/15/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Every decision you make changes you. Love is no different
-------------------- Anyone got a lowpass filter in this biiiiash?
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