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stzacrack
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Quitting drinking
#23927653 - 12/14/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok, so here's my deal
I desire to quit drinking
My habit is pretty heavy, but I do not have a physical dependence to alcohol, although I drink WAY too much, I drink daily, and I have been drinking daily for about 14 months
On days i do not work, I start drinking early, but I'd like to stop these next few days leading into the weekend
My problem is I get bored so quickly during the day when I have off so I begin to drink, and on days I work I drink soon as I'm off
Anyway, I'm ready to try and stop, but I don't want to stop abruptly because it will be too agitating and I don't think it will work, though I know pjysical withdrawal will be at a minimum.
I picked up klonopin to hopefully put together a taper plan over the upcoming days into the weekend, and I wanted to hear some thoughts as to what sort of taper I should follow and maybe opinions on the effectivenss of weaning off alcohol with benzodiazepines
If a mod moves this somewhere that I will get solid advice that's appreciated, and also I'm not interested in people pointing out the danger of switching dependence to benzodiazepines, just interested in advice as to how I might implement these kpins to get myself through these next few days so I can get myself out of the habit of needing to drink
Thanks in advance
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Re: Quitting drinking [Re: stzacrack]
#23927675 - 12/14/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kilo opine detox is different and harder than ethanol detox.
Boredom is part of the detox. Less dopamine.
Drink later in the day and drink less. Address any mental health issues with proper medical assistance.
I would stop alcohol if I had a lot of weed. I like chemical recreation.
You are physically dependent on alcohol. Psychological dependence during detox is physical. Neurons are physical.
The real choice is when you feel good and you explore negative aspects of your need when not indulging.
Why do you want to stop using? Needing a drug is real quick to forget why and fuck it all attitude Insues.
The worst people hooked on booze don't see a problem. So seek an issue is a great start to mitigating your life!
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Re: Quitting drinking [Re: Morel Guy]
#23927695 - 12/14/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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-talks about quitting drinking-
-comes to the pub-
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Re: Quitting drinking [Re: Morel Guy]
#23927706 - 12/14/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm grown, and I need to quit for myself and my own reasons
Not trying to b a jerk, but that's the truth, Nd if I thought I could handle it successfully on my own I wouldn't need any input
Truth is I drink too much, and although one day I'd like to enjoy a few beers on occasions, it has gotten far beyond that point
I only planned on using benzo for day 1 or 2, just to feel "something" and to initially break the habit of drinking EVERYDAY, then I'd like to slip into daily sobriety for the foreseeable future
Edit - I'd also like to mitigate physical withdrawal with the kpin
Edited by stzacrack (12/14/16 09:19 PM)
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Quote:
Kush_Zombie said: -talks about quitting drinking-
-comes to the pub-

Well a mod can move it wherever necessary if it doesn't suit your necessities here, or you can ignore me
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Re: Quitting drinking [Re: stzacrack]
#23927720 - 12/14/16 09:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lol I was obviously joking. Geez, everyone is so sensitive around here.
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Kush_Zombie said: Lol I was obviously joking. Geez, everyone is so sensitive around here.
To be fair, in my situation, it is a sensitive subject, as this is something I'm going to "attempt", and it's important to me and mine
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Re: Quitting drinking [Re: stzacrack]
#23927730 - 12/14/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just stop and remember the suffering. It's the boredom that can become hallucination. It is very serious and you will lie to yourself. You will justify your life and you will learn to be ok with those lies. Even people always sober have always bullshitted themselves and others.
Not trying to be a dick but you seem to think booze is only for special occasions. I know I can't use drugs that are easily accessible or have been to me, just once and done. Knowing your addiction and reality is a hard fucking case of reality. Drugs can be deadly as is their detox.
It's like being torn between two fucking hot ass hell woman trying to quick the habit. It's easy to forget and stay with one but really hate her and want the other, either path you choose.
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Re: Quitting drinking [Re: stzacrack]
#23927736 - 12/14/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would like to thank you two for responding though
Tough reality to deal with
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Re: Quitting drinking [Re: Morel Guy]
#23927742 - 12/14/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Do you have hobbies to fall back on? Even playing videogames or making some music or something. Something to take your mind off the boredom. Going for a run around the block or knocking out push-ups when you get an urge to drink can be helpful temporarily in the moment.
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Re: Quitting drinking [Re: stzacrack]
#23927745 - 12/14/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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My advice... find a hobby. It'll keep you busy and from getting bored.
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Re: Quitting drinking [Re: PatrickKn]
#23927748 - 12/14/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wouldn't call it a hobby, but I especially enjoy playing with my newborn daughter
I also have other interests and the means to observe them while doing this
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the AA thread in the well being forum would be a better place. i found it took the edge off but i also just wanted to drink anyways, it had the fuck it loosens that drinking can give ya, i have xanax bars. they will help but as you already know present a similar slippery slope.
taking a break probably a good thing. trying to get motivated about that is hard, so good work on getting this far.
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To tell you the truth I'm fed up with that overbearing feeling that I want to hit the liquor store omw home from work everyday
also having thoughts pf drinking when not at work, just waiting until it's a reasonable time to begin drinking
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Re: Quitting drinking [Re: stzacrack]
#23927794 - 12/14/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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So you know how much you usually drink?
I smoked weed for ten years and didn't ever drink much. Like hardly ever drank. So my drinking is somewhat tame. But I feel ya on wanting to not have a need.
Think about your daughter. I have no woman and have a disability or three that limits my availability and mate value. Not a lot of reasons to not be sober. But I try to be tame it's drugs/ethanol. Just because a shit ton of reasons but not enough to be a saint.
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Re: Quitting drinking [Re: stzacrack]
#23927796 - 12/14/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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stzacrack said: I wouldn't call it a hobby, but I especially enjoy playing with my newborn daughter
I also have other interests and the means to observe them while doing this
That's great! Concentrate on your newborn. I do'nt believe that hobbies are all too distracting when one is trying to quit alcohol. The anhedonia persists and one may not feel that it's worth the effort when the bottle consumes your thoughts. However when PURPOSE is involved, such as to a child or lover, then is there a much greater incentive to succeed if will runs co-regent with love.
Good luck to you. It's really fucking hard. I cant stop and do'nt really want to at the moment. I tried benzos before. Phenazepam by myself which led to fucking disaster, and then Librium in detox. I went about 40 days sober after that.
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Edit: Sugar helps btw.
Edited by lavod (12/14/16 10:18 PM)
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Re: Quitting drinking [Re: lavod]
#23928362 - 12/15/16 04:45 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thank you
I like to think if I can get past the first days then ill be okay Btw morel guy- I do know how much I drink, its about the same everyday
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Re: Quitting drinking [Re: stzacrack]
#23928365 - 12/15/16 04:51 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Move to pot until until you figure it out
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Ayahuasca helped me tremendously when i was still drinking. It didnt stop any physical withdrawl but it really strengthened my will to quit. This in no way guarantees that it helps you too but it might be worth a shot
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