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Re: Why Democrats who are against Nader are whiney bitches. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2394629 - 03/02/04 10:42 AM (20 years, 21 days ago)

SS, so you think i should vote democrat even if they dont represent my values? You think you have any right to say who people "should" vote for? That is crap. This is a Democracy, people can vote for whoever they want. If the Democrats were any good, i'd vote for them, but quite frankly the very attitude you and mjshroomer show make me sure to vote either Nader or Green.
Invertigo- I see your still a misguided fool buying into conservativism. But thats ok, I'm pretty sure you just put on the front of being a Republican because its controversial here and you're in desperate need of attention. I forgive you.

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Re: Why Democrats who are against Nader are whiney bitches. [Re: vivid]
    #2394789 - 03/02/04 11:26 AM (20 years, 21 days ago)

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Invertigo- I see your still a misguided fool buying into conservativism.




A. Pull your head out of your ass.

B. I'm not a conservative.

C. I'll be voting for the Libertarian candidate this election. Surprised?

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But thats ok, I'm pretty sure you just put on the front of being a Republican because its controversial here and you're in desperate need of attention. I forgive you.




Everyone knows where I stand (whether they agree with me or not), why can't you? Maybe because you spend the time relying on the fruit loops like Nadar. A vote for Nader (no matter if you're a Conservative or Democrate) is a vote for pure ignorance and general fruitloopness.


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Re: Why Democrats who are against Nader are whiney bitches. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2395217 - 03/02/04 01:24 PM (20 years, 21 days ago)

SUCK A DICK HOE. BUSH4LIFE

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Re: Why Democrats who are against Nader are whiney bitches. [Re: whole9]
    #2395225 - 03/02/04 01:25 PM (20 years, 21 days ago)

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Re: Why Democrats who are against Nader are whiney bitches. [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
    #2395259 - 03/02/04 01:33 PM (20 years, 21 days ago)

I?m still surprised that people on a drug message board vote puritan.

You people are voting for your own enslavement.




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Re: Why Democrats who are against Nader are whiney bitches. [Re: Learyfan]
    #2395292 - 03/02/04 01:38 PM (20 years, 21 days ago)

I still can't believe that there are people on this site that believe that the Demoncrates will make them more free than the Republicrates when both are headed towards a cliff at different speeds. I like the third party option that was brought up as the main topic but Nader is definatly NOT the answer. I'd rather have Bush.


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Re: Why Democrats who are against Nader are whiney bitches. [Re: vivid]
    #2395341 - 03/02/04 01:47 PM (20 years, 21 days ago)

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SS, so you think i should vote democrat even if they dont represent my values?



And what values of yours are they not representing?

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You think you have any right to say who people "should" vote for?



I'm not saying who everyone should vote for. I'm saying who you should vote for if you want to get King George II out of office. Sure, you may have to compromise some of your values, but the ship is sinking and you're trying to fix a leak instead of getting on the life raft.

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This is a Democracy, people can vote for whoever they want.



Agreed, and if you want to help Bush win, that's your prerogative.

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If the Democrats were any good, i'd vote for them, but quite frankly the very attitude you and mjshroomer show make me sure to vote either Nader or Green.



Again, if you want to help Bush, be my guest. I'm more concerned with getting the worst president in history out of office.


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Re: Why Democrats who are against Nader are whiney bitches. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2395373 - 03/02/04 01:53 PM (20 years, 21 days ago)

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Agreed, and if you want to help Bush win, that's your prerogative.




It's your perrogative, you can do watcha wanna do! Ow!

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Re: Why Democrats who are against Nader are whiney bitches. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2395681 - 03/02/04 03:07 PM (20 years, 21 days ago)

America desperately needs a third party option, (of the left wing variety)

Proportional representation would help to ensure that the small number of people who do vote for Nader get representaion...but that's another battle.

King George the II is the worst ever, but is Kerry, or Clinton for that matter, much better? Marginally.

If I was an American I wouldn't vote for either Reps or Dems.


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Re: Why Democrats who are against Nader are whiney bitches. [Re: carbonhoots]
    #2395715 - 03/02/04 03:14 PM (20 years, 21 days ago)

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America desperately needs a third party option, (of the left wing variety)




Why? The far left represents only a tiny portion of the country.

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King George the II is the worst ever, but is Kerry, or Clinton for that matter, much better? Marginally.



Kerry's not the best there is, but he's a hell of a lot better than Bush. I think those that say he's not really aren't looking close enough at just how badly Bush has fucked over this country.


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Re: Why Democrats who are against Nader are whiney bitches. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2395781 - 03/02/04 03:29 PM (20 years, 21 days ago)

Democrats will give you more of the same right wing crap. Maybe not quite as intense.

How is a real reform movement ever going to take hold if no one votes for it?

Clinton sucked. Bush is crazy. Vote for someone good.

Do you believe Nader has a better platform than Kerry? I do. A way better platform. I want to vote for someone who has a clue. Rather than a slightly diluted neo-con.


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Re: Why Democrats who are against Nader are whiney bitches. [Re: carbonhoots]
    #2395812 - 03/02/04 03:37 PM (20 years, 21 days ago)

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Democrats will give you more of the same right wing crap. Maybe not quite as intense.



No, the Democrats are more progressive on the environment, foreign affairs, welfare, civil rights, etc. People like Lieberman may represent the "Republican Lite" party, but that's not representative of the Democratic party as a whole.

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How is a real reform movement ever going to take hold if no one votes for it?



How is it ever going to take hold if the American people don't want it?

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Clinton sucked. Bush is crazy. Vote for someone good.



Voting for someone "good" just takes votes away from the better candidate with a chance of winning. Besides, Clinton may have sucked, but he was a hell of a lot better than Bush.

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Do you believe Nader has a better platform than Kerry? I do. A way better platform. I want to vote for someone who has a clue. Rather than a slightly diluted neo-con.



I do think he has a better platform, but I also think he's an ego-maniac with his head stuck up his ass. Kerry may be a little more friendly to special interests than I like, but there are more important things to worry about right now, like getting the worst president ever out of office. There's no way Kerry is going to be as bad as Bush. If I'm wrong, I'll vote for Nader in 2008.


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Re: Why Democrats who are against Nader are whiney bitches. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2396001 - 03/02/04 04:21 PM (20 years, 21 days ago)

Invertigo you jackass. I'm not surprised you vote Libertarian, but I am surprised you take drugs and visit this site yet have a sincere problem with the left.
I never said anything about the Democrats being better than Republicans you jizzbag, the whole point of this thread would suggest otherwise.
Silversoul, you dont fucking get it. If i vote Nader, or Green I'm not helping Bush unless I would have voted Democrat anyway... and I've NEVER voted for a Democrat... not ONCE. why? They're bought up by special interrests, they dont push progressive agendas, they just react to conservative ones. and IF CALIFORNIA GOES DEMOCRAT, My vote didn't spoil anything.. So fuck you man. I'm not helping Bush at all by voting my heart. I'm helping myself by sticking to my idealism... and to me, virtue and purity of character is more important than winning and not being represented anyway.

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Re: Why Democrats who are against Nader are whiney bitches. [Re: vivid]
    #2396011 - 03/02/04 04:23 PM (20 years, 21 days ago)

If you wanna vote for that egomaniac, go ahead. And you're right--It's not helping Bush win if you wouldn't vote for a Democrat anyway, but it's not doing any damn good either.


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Re: Why Democrats who are against Nader are whiney bitches. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2396030 - 03/02/04 04:29 PM (20 years, 21 days ago)

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If you wanna vote for that egomaniac, go ahead.  And you're right--It's not helping Bush win if you wouldn't vote for a Democrat anyway, but it's not doing any damn good either.



Hear, hear! While I do agree a third (and maybe even fourth, fifth and sixth) party is sorely needed, our number 1 priority NOW should be removing the current asshat in office. We can't afford four more years of Bush!  :thumbdown:

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Re: Why Democrats who are against Nader are whiney bitches. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2396031 - 03/02/04 04:29 PM (20 years, 21 days ago)

The only people that are Egomaniacs are people like you man.

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Re: Why Democrats who are against Nader are whiney bitches. [Re: vivid]
    #2396038 - 03/02/04 04:32 PM (20 years, 21 days ago)

Besides, why vote Democrat when a million of morons like you already make sure my state's electoral college votes goes Democrat anyway.

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Re: Why Democrats who are against Nader are whiney bitches. [Re: vivid]
    #2396348 - 03/02/04 06:07 PM (20 years, 21 days ago)

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The only people that are Egomaniacs are people like you man.



You don't know me. What do you mean by "people like me"? People who don't want to see Bush in office another 4 years? Or people who think that's more important than voting for someone who will never win because he has a nice-sounding platform that will never see the light of day?


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Re: Why Democrats who are against Nader are whiney bitches. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2396488 - 03/02/04 06:47 PM (20 years, 21 days ago)

People like you who say that people are helping Bush get reelected if they dont vote in the same way that you do. Thats ego dude.

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Re: Why Democrats who are against Nader are whiney bitches. [Re: vivid]
    #2396507 - 03/02/04 06:54 PM (20 years, 21 days ago)

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People like you who say that people are helping Bush get reelected if they dont vote in the same way that you do. Thats ego dude.



No, it's pragmatism. If you have left-leaning views, you can either vote for the guy whose views are exactly like yours but will never ever become president, or you can vote for the guy who has some more moderately left-leaning views but actually has a chance of beating the neo-con bastard that's currently in office. You can stick to ideals or you can stick to practicality. And flaming me by calling me an egomaniac or a whiney bitch isn't going to bring Bush out of power any faster than voting for Nader will.


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