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Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up...
    #23926448 - 12/14/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

So I failed a drug test for a pre-employment screening, when they called to tell me I failed I asked what the levels were, he said they were 560ng/ml...

I quit smoking weed about 25 days ago, and I'm not really fat, maybe 170lb and 5'8", so I'm maybe 10lb more than what I would like to be but by no means fat.


These numbers make no fucking sense to me, how can I have that much still in my system after abstaining for over three weeks?  I could understand if there was 20-50ng/ml but over 500? 


Is something wrong here?  Should I ask them to do a retest?


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Maverick]
    #23926512 - 12/14/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

BHO or extracts?


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23926520 - 12/14/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I just smoked weed.  Vaporize it though.  Don't really use extracts, maybe once every 3-6 months I'll take a dab hit.


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Maverick]
    #23926524 - 12/14/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

What was the job?


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23926568 - 12/14/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It wasn't a very important job though it did require driving.  So I can understand them drug testing for metabolites.  However there are better job opportunities out there that I'm also applying for, I was going to use this drug test as a basis of whether I'm clean or not, and if not it would give me an idea of what my levels were.

However the levels they said I had don't make sense.


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23926569 - 12/14/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

They must have made a mistake when telling you the number. It's pretty much always 50ng/ml unless it's for probation or department of transportation.


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: searching]
    #23926580 - 12/14/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Labs are 15


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: searching]
    #23926625 - 12/14/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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They must have made a mistake when telling you the number. It's pretty much always 50ng/ml unless it's for probation or department of transportation.





No they didn't make a mistake in the cutoff number, but I feel they made a mistake in reading what my THC metabolite levels were.  I don't see how I could have over 560ng/ml of metabolites in my system after 25 days of being clean...


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Maverick]
    #23926647 - 12/14/16 03:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Was it your first piss of the day?  Did you just work out?  Have you been eating normally?  Did you go in hydrated?


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Maverick] * 1
    #23926651 - 12/14/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe you have a super slow metabolism for cannabinoids or something.

Human errors are always possible though :shrug:

Good thing it wasn't for anything too important though!


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: musiclover420]
    #23926676 - 12/14/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Surely you can request the documentation proving you failed.. Id  make a stink about it, you got to know the "actual" amount in your system. The person talking to is probably a bird-brain and told you wrong.


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: TranceInTheForest]
    #23926727 - 12/14/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

http://boards.cannabis.com/threads/the-truth-behind-drug-testing.64429/
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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23926776 - 12/14/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Was it your first piss of the day?  Did you just work out?  Have you been eating normally?  Did you go in hydrated?





I hadn't really urinated much that day, I had to go get a soda and stuff to build up my ability to piss.  Might have been a little dehydrated.


I have Gilbert's syndrome, would that fuck my ability to move THC metabolites out of my system?  Always have elevated levels of bilirubin...


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Maverick]
    #23926791 - 12/14/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Likely it could since it's the liver.  Did you take any acetamophin lately?

Gotta hydrate but not overly dilute the sodium in your urine.  They test specific gravity and sodium levels for dilution.  I believe also creatine.


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23926796 - 12/14/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I had a fever a couple weeks ago and was taking tylenol and ibuprofin.  But it's been a couple weeks since then.

I sincerely am trying to quit weed and find a legit job, and this is like a kick in the nuts.  I need a job in the marijuana industry, it's legal here in Oregon, it's legal in Washington, will be legal in Nevada in a month, and in cali...  All the states surrounding me except Asshole-Idaho has legal recreational marijuana... I don't know how to get into the industry though.


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Maverick]
    #23926803 - 12/14/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Those can cause false + but with your liver I don't know if that is a long time.


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23927255 - 12/14/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

See if any recreational dispensaries near you are going if your 21+ other wise I think you may need a med card to work at most dispensaries. Seems like a great job though most I have been to always play crap music which would drive me insane :lol:


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Maverick]
    #23927523 - 12/14/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

what are you going to do?

demand the numbers, then say they should have been lower?
:confused:


get over it.


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: keyser_soze] * 1
    #23927530 - 12/14/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I would get another blood test for liver function


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23927641 - 12/14/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Mandarinfish]
    #23927649 - 12/14/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

When I was on probation I bought a bunch of 50ng ml cannabinoid test sticks.  I would drink water and take a piss to test before going in.  Just helped ease my mind.


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23927662 - 12/14/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'm in my 30's and I seem to get looked over by dispensaries.  Am I getting too old for a front desk dispensary position?



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I would get another blood test for liver function




As scared of it as I am, I need to do that ASAP.


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Maverick]
    #23927686 - 12/14/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Just act like a cool hipster that is dope on weed or whatever fad shit they do.

Like soma or some shit


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23945517 - 12/21/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

So I bought a bunch of dollar tree piss tests and I'm still pissing dirty, with a very dark line on the strip...  (Just did a test 5 minutes ago).


Do you think my Gilbert's Syndrome might be causing the metabolites to linger longer in my system?


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Maverick]
    #23945528 - 12/21/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I was testing positive after 70+ days last year. I'm a little overweight so that wouldn't have helped but still, 70+ days is fucking unreal.

I ended up buying quick fix synthetic urine and I will never look back. Fuck the man. Fuck the system.


there's reports and anecdotes of people testing positive up to 100+ days after smoking

The norm is like 14-21 days but obviously for some people the metabolites just linger a lot longer. Still really fucked up. When they legalize pot do they change the cut off levels? How does that shit work in a legal rec state?


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Maverick]
    #23945539 - 12/21/16 09:27 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I failed drug tests for 3 months straight recently for probation. The 30 days clean is for mexican brick weed. If you are smoking loud, keif, hash, dabs its going to be allot longer than 30 days.


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Psychoslut]
    #23945677 - 12/21/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Well, fuck. 



Should I just start taking out student loans and just move to the college that way?  Because obviously trying to earn money up and move down there isn't working, the years keep passing and the likeliness that I'm going to have to retake all the courses I did for my associates is becoming more and more of a reality....


I don't know wtf to do.  I don't smoke weed, I don't use other drugs, but I'm fucked for a few more months probably as far as drug tests go.  I'm in my 30's and this shit is really getting me down, feeling like I haven't made a single ounce of progress in my life since I moved out at 18.


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Maverick] * 1
    #23945743 - 12/21/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Someone already told you the answer. Use synthetic urine. This is a non issue. All of this worrying is for nothing. Just order quick fix 2.0 and use it and you'll be wondering why you were ever so worried. You're torturing yourself for no reason.

I personally believe that it is no one's business what I do on my own free time. And it's hilariously ridiculous that they want to lab analyze my PISS to see what drugs I take.


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #23946293 - 12/21/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The norm is like 14-21 days but obviously for some people the metabolites just linger a lot longer. Still really fucked up. When they legalize pot do they change the cut off levels? How does that shit work in a legal rec state?




Sadly it is worse in legal states as now they test to make sure people aren't driving stoned.

But I believe they also teat for metabolites or do a cheek swab or something.

So you can get fines for driving under the influence just for smoking recently I have heard.

Thankfully if your a decent driver you probably won't be tested but it still sucks.

Meanwhile plenty of people still drive around on legal and illegal drugs putting everyone at risk...

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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Maverick]
    #23946315 - 12/21/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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So I bought a bunch of dollar tree piss tests and I'm still pissing dirty, with a very dark line on the strip...  (Just did a test 5 minutes ago).


Do you think my Gilbert's Syndrome might be causing the metabolites to linger longer in my system?





Uhhhhhh what kind of test are you taking at home???

Most tests the line on the strip means you tested negative not positive, sounds like you are reading the results incorrectly...so you should be clean now. 



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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Boomer The Great]
    #23946850 - 12/21/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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So I bought a bunch of dollar tree piss tests and I'm still pissing dirty, with a very dark line on the strip...  (Just did a test 5 minutes ago).


Do you think my Gilbert's Syndrome might be causing the metabolites to linger longer in my system?





Uhhhhhh what kind of test are you taking at home???

Most tests the line on the strip means you tested negative not positive, sounds like you are reading the results incorrectly...so you should be clean now. 







all the ones i've used were the oppposite. as the metabolites react WITH the line to make it show. the darker the more matabolites, the lighter it is, until it is gone, means lower and then 0.


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: keyser_soze]
    #23947620 - 12/21/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

thats just plain wrong LOLOL

you have been reading you tests wrong dude. seriously bro


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Boomer The Great]
    #23947630 - 12/21/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Mine worked the way he's describing...

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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: sh4d0ws] * 1
    #23947642 - 12/21/16 10:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

nevermind. I am stoned.

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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #23947656 - 12/21/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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nevermind. I am stoned.

yeah keyser you might be reading your tests wrong bro





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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: searching]
    #23947681 - 12/21/16 11:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Someone already told you the answer. Use synthetic urine. This is a non issue. All of this worrying is for nothing. Just order quick fix 2.0 and use it and you'll be wondering why you were ever so worried. You're torturing yourself for no reason.

I personally believe that it is no one's business what I do on my own free time. And it's hilariously ridiculous that they want to lab analyze my PISS to see what drugs I take.





Synthetic has failed me 4 times, and hasn't passed once for me.  0-4 for me means it's a waste of $35-$50 a pop, just to be told "well it's inconclusive and we think it's doctered."  Quick Fix was three of those four.  Not into that shit now.

Nah, they catch on quick up here.



The tests I'm failing aren't strip tests, they're GCMS tests.  You really can't fake those.  My degree Is chemistry... They not only test for specific ratios, they keep a record, if they have the same 'piss' come up twice in a row it's marked as doctored and synthetic.  And since quick fix is made in massive batches, it's a rip-off unless it's only for a strip test.  In addition they do microbial tests, and I KNOW for a facft that stuff is sterile.  Piss might be 'clean' but it's not sterile, there will be naturally occuring bacteria in your urine (just hope it's not the type that gives you a bladder infection).  I've done tests with multiple fake urine and they don't grow on petris, at least not what you'd find in normal piss.


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Boomer The Great]
    #23947749 - 12/21/16 11:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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So I bought a bunch of dollar tree piss tests and I'm still pissing dirty, with a very dark line on the strip...  (Just did a test 5 minutes ago).


Do you think my Gilbert's Syndrome might be causing the metabolites to linger longer in my system?





Uhhhhhh what kind of test are you taking at home???

Most tests the line on the strip means you tested negative not positive, sounds like you are reading the results incorrectly...so you should be clean now. 






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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: Maverick]
    #23947769 - 12/21/16 11:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Someone already told you the answer. Use synthetic urine. This is a non issue. All of this worrying is for nothing. Just order quick fix 2.0 and use it and you'll be wondering why you were ever so worried. You're torturing yourself for no reason.

I personally believe that it is no one's business what I do on my own free time. And it's hilariously ridiculous that they want to lab analyze my PISS to see what drugs I take.





Synthetic has failed me 4 times, and hasn't passed once for me.  0-4 for me means it's a waste of $35-$50 a pop, just to be told "well it's inconclusive and we think it's doctered."  Quick Fix was three of those four.  Not into that shit now.

Nah, they catch on quick up here.



The tests I'm failing aren't strip tests, they're GCMS tests.  You really can't fake those.  My degree Is chemistry... They not only test for specific ratios, they keep a record, if they have the same 'piss' come up twice in a row it's marked as doctored and synthetic.  And since quick fix is made in massive batches, it's a rip-off unless it's only for a strip test.  In addition they do microbial tests, and I KNOW for a facft that stuff is sterile.  Piss might be 'clean' but it's not sterile, there will be naturally occuring bacteria in your urine (just hope it's not the type that gives you a bladder infection).  I've done tests with multiple fake urine and they don't grow on petris, at least not what you'd find in normal piss.






Bull shit. Quick fix works for lab tests. I've used it, for lab tests, for very strict employers.


There's a ton of knock off versions and counterfeits and such but the most up to date quick fix certainly works.


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #23948185 - 12/22/16 06:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

if you carried it around all the time though wouldn't it degrade?


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #23948482 - 12/22/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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sh4d0ws said:


Bull shit. Quick fix works for lab tests. I've used it, for lab tests, for very strict employers.


There's a ton of knock off versions and counterfeits and such but the most up to date quick fix certainly works.





You can call bullshit but I do know how these labs run, and they do keep documentation of the levels of urea, creatinine, ammonia, and other chemical levels, but they also look for cell fragments and biological material these days.

In addition these labs also continuously test synthetic urine, not just to calibrate their equipment but to document and record batches of synthetic in order to catch it.  If someone's 'urine' has the exact same chemical makeup as a synthetic that they have tested (and with digital era, that data is shared between labs) it will be marked inconclusive and you will have to repiss (giving you the benefit of the doubt that it isn't synthetic, they call it inconclusive instead of doctored, most of the time).


Labs aren't stupid.  They do catch on and they don't continue to use the same old techniques if someone has figured out how to get around them. 

The stuff will work in certain circumstances but that's generally if they aren't running a GCMS on the sample.


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Re: Failed a drug test, but the number don't add up... [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #23949777 - 12/22/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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sh4d0ws said:
nevermind. I am stoned.

yeah keyser you might be reading your tests wrong bro





not at all. i was smoking while in the military. tested like that , always was accurate.


what brand you guys using?

even before i joined the military when at the recruiters they pissed me and the cocaine line was showing faint. they asked when the last time i used it was, as the line showed up really faint but was there...i had just used 5 days prior.

one week later they test me again, no line that time, and shipped me off to meps.


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