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Canada's federal marijuana task force report is out
#23924587 - 12/13/16 10:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pisses me of how slow its moving, those states in USA that legalized weed last month already have legal weed, Canada is slow as fuck. BUT this report is fucking good news, if the government follows it. It suggests no beer store pot, which was my biggest fear. Everyone who is not a moron want's dispensaries, and it's looking like its going to go that way. Suggests multiple little guy suppliers not cigarette company monopoly, which is also good news. Also suggests letting provinces set own policies, since I can move anywhere that's great. Best of all it suggests coffee shops for consumption, which is a dream, I have been to Amsterdam. If that happens I may even vote Liberal again. None of the controls suggested are offensive to me either, no advertising/plain packaging, no look alike candies, no setting up near schools, 30 gram limit. All this shit i can more than live with.
Highlights from the federal marijuana task force report Panel makes over 80 recommendations to advise Liberal government in its legalization push
CBC News Posted: Dec 13, 2016 12:12 PM ET Last Updated: Dec 13, 2016 5:22 PM ET
The task force Justin Trudeau's Liberal government appointed to study how marijuana could be legalized and regulated in Canada released its report Tuesday, offering over 80 recommendations.
Pot task force recommends legal cannabis sales be limited to users 18 and over
Here are some highlights from the report: Sales and marketing
Set the minimum age of purchase as 18, respecting the rights of provinces and territories to harmonize with sales of alcohol. Avoid selling alcohol and cannabis at the same location where possible: dedicated storefronts and direct mail are preferable. Limit the density and location of storefronts, including their proximity to schools and parks. Regulate retail sales at the provincial and territorial level. Restrict the promotion and advertising of cannabis products, similar to restrictions now in place for tobacco. Require plain packaging with company name, strain name, price, tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and cannabidiol (CBD) amounts and health warnings. Prohibit any product deemed "appealing to children," including products that look like candy.
Taxation
Establish pricing and taxation following an economic analysis. Tax higher potency THC products at a higher rate to discourage purchase. Use revenue from cannabis regulation for drug prevention, education and treatment.
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McLellan says time to legalize pot is now1:51 Public consumption and possession
Extend restrictions on public smoking of tobacco products and vaping to cannabis. Allow and regulate dedicated places to consume cannabis products (lounges, for example.) Limit public possession to 30 grams of dried, non-medical cannabis or its equivalent, with a corresponding sales limit.
Production and distribution
Implement a system of licensed producers to grow cannabis in Canada. Allow personal cultivation of up to four plants per residence, with a height limit of 100 cm. Maintain medical marijuana access separately, with the same tax system as non-medical use. Move swiftly to create capacity for producing and selling cannabis.
Public education and safety
Begin public education strategy immediately. Determine how to establish limits to prevent an increase in cannabis-impaired driving.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/marijuana-task-force-highlights-1.3894219
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larry.fisherman
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Re: Canada's federal marijuana task force report is out [Re: my3rdeye]
#23924712 - 12/14/16 12:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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4 plants per residence? I can live with that.
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Re: Canada's federal marijuana task force report is out [Re: larry.fisherman]
#23924925 - 12/14/16 03:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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XLCaps said: 4 plants per residence? I can live with that. 
Yeah not sure how they can have a 30 gram limit on dried bud and still allow 4 plants?
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Re: Canada's federal marijuana task force report is out [Re: my3rdeye]
#23924938 - 12/14/16 03:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's public possession, meaning you can carry that on your person at any time.
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Re: Canada's federal marijuana task force report is out [Re: larry.fisherman]
#23925006 - 12/14/16 05:19 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The only thing that kinda bugs me is the 100cm height limit.
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The height limit will change. Its stupid. That is 100% impossible to enforce... and makes no difference for 'fire safety'. The Allard case already proved that plants( of varying heights) can be grown safely at home by regular people.
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Re: Canada's federal marijuana task force report is out [Re: Crispykoot]
#23925148 - 12/14/16 07:37 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think the intention behind the height limit is regulating how much marijuana can be produced per cannabis plant
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larry.fisherman
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I guarantee the only time that height limit will matter to a judge is if that person is already violating a whole bunch of other regulations and is being charged for other stuff. I guarantee it. My buds will be touching the ceiling if they so choose to.
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Re: Canada's federal marijuana task force report is out [Re: larry.fisherman]
#23925167 - 12/14/16 07:56 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Would be kinda cool to be able to say that you got a fine because your weed was too god damn high
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larry.fisherman
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Maintain medical marijuana access separately, with the same tax system as non-medical use.
^^This is bothersome. This tells me they are legalizing it because of public opinion. Which is great but if it's a medication then it's a medication. Doctor's wouldn't prescribe it any(much) differently once it's legal.. people who need it should be getting the same price breaks as any other medication. The problem, I guess, would be that these dispensaries aren't being run by licensed pharmacists, and they should be. It doesn't sound like they intend on carrying it in pharacies either.. this is going to take them some time to figure out unfortunately.
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Re: Canada's federal marijuana task force report is out [Re: larry.fisherman]
#23925531 - 12/14/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think pricing will be cheaper through the compassion club/dispensary model for medical. Medical folks pay about $5 per gram in my area...Or less.
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Re: Canada's federal marijuana task force report is out [Re: Crispykoot]
#23925625 - 12/14/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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BC? I've literally never seen a dispensary but I know some exist in the GTA. All the sites I've gone on/ordered from vary, up to ~$13/g for the best shit they got, $7-8 for mid range. So still $60 a 1/4 for 17-18% weed. So not bad, especially considering it's well cured and perfectly trimmed. $5 is still too high though. Most scripts cost little to nothing for people on ODSP, disability benefits, or social assistance. $5 a gram is outrageous.
Also, the medical states have expensive ass weed from dispensaries. The extracts are cheaper due to how much they sell, but the lowered prices you might have noticed people talking about are from people selling it personally because everyone ends up with excess if they grow. Suddenly everyone expecting people to have excess get the 'overflow' pricing. That is where we will benefit. Dispensaries are for people willing to PAY, and people who want a menu or niche products.
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Re: Canada's federal marijuana task force report is out [Re: larry.fisherman]
#23927973 - 12/14/16 10:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes BC. Prices will come down from there I would imagine with more supply and more shops. Bottom line is it needs to be cheap as possible for those in need.
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Re: Canada's federal marijuana task force report is out [Re: larry.fisherman]
#23928075 - 12/14/16 11:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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XLCaps said:
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Maintain medical marijuana access separately, with the same tax system as non-medical use.
^^This is bothersome. This tells me they are legalizing it because of public opinion. Which is great but if it's a medication then it's a medication. Doctor's wouldn't prescribe it any(much) differently once it's legal.. people who need it should be getting the same price breaks as any other medication. .
I can solve this in one swoop, abolish medical. I use beer to fall asleep but that's never medical, but smoking a joint is? The whole exemption from the law isn't exactly a doctor saying you should smoke pot, it's just protecting you from legal ramifications of using a herbal remedy. If med pot users are exempt from taxes I want an exemption from beer taxes because too you can't say one is medical use and one isn't. They both put you to sleep. Doctors should not be prescribing it anyway, they don't prescribe any other herbal remedies. It should be like any other herbal medicine, there are 10 thousand products at the Chinese herbal medicine shop that doctors don't prescribe, some probably even work. Anyway I think some Canadians are way overestimating what the taxes will be here. There was a report the other day that Colarado's biggest producers have costs down to under 20 cents a gram. There can be lots of taxes and the store and grower still make money and it still sells for 5 bucks a gram, which is the recommended price. Now I know most of the med pot community cries poor all the time but 5 bucks is pretty damn reasonable, never mind the 4 plants thing. I think its time to stop this two tier some people are special because they knew how to manipulate the system and get an exemption system. Either I get tax free medical beer or they pay the same for weed as everyone else.
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Re: Canada's federal marijuana task force report is out [Re: my3rdeye]
#23932131 - 12/16/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Really?
Tax higher potency THC products at a higher rate to discourage purchase.
Why would that even be a suggestion
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