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krypto2000
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AuroraBorealis88 said: Ya I just think it's funny that people think one could or ever would lace mushrooms with any drug let alone phencyclidine.
You sure PCP can't cause paralysis? I know it works on adrenaline or something did they also use it in surgery? Because I know Ketamine can cause paralysis and I thought ketamine was introduced originally to replace PCP.
Afaik neither cause paralysis, do you mean a lack of consciousness? Ketamine is used as an anesthetic, but it doesn't paralyze people. If it did that would be pretty terrible lol, can you imagine getting some sort of procedure done and instead of putting you under so you don't have to deal with it they just paralyze you? What's the medical benefit in that? That sounds awful.
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AuroraBorealis88
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I'm pretty sure the definition of a K-hole (other than having a dissociative breakthrough) is the fact that you can't move.
Terence McKenna said the reason he doesn't like ketamine is because he doesn't like a drug so strong that the whole house could burn down all around you without you even batting an eye. He said that they could cut off your head and you wouldn't flinch.
Also I'm pretty sure John C. Lily was found by his wife face down in a pool paralyzed from ketamine. I'm fairly certain many people have died from being paralyzed from ketamine in the wrong place and some have even froze to death. One of the most famous ketamine users of all time (I forgot her name) died this way.
I know people and have heard stories of people doing ketamine at parties and not being able to move even when the cops came, many of them talk about just being stiff like a board and just not being able to move whatsoever.
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krypto2000
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You can't move because you're effectively unconscious, you've lost all touch with reality. You're not paralyzed in the sense that your motor function does not work, you're just not conscious enough to use it. It would be akin to saying smoking DMT paralyzed you. Unresponsive != paralysis. If you're found face down in a pool from K that's death, not paralysis lol, that is a side effect of being a total fucking dumbass, I'd put it up there with snorting K in the middle of the interstate.
edit: I looked it up and you might actually be right, I can't get a definitive answer though. I'm reading that some people experience an inability to move and a disconnection from their body (which is kind of the main effect) and this is a sign of entering a khole. Whether you are actually paralyzed though I don't know, the way it's phrased makes it seem like you're basically in a khole but trying to move still which doesn't really make sense to me. If they're interpreting a disconnect from the body as paralysis I don't think that's actual paralysis so much as a loss of consciousness though. Perhaps it's sort of a gray area depending upon how you define paralysis and/or consciousness.
Edited by krypto2000 (12/14/16 03:57 PM)
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Re: Shrooms and PCP [Re: Th111111]
#23927477 - 12/14/16 07:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, pretty sure it was not laced mushrooms. Who the fuck would even lace mushrooms with PCP anyways? That's just stupid. Either way though that's why you should always test your substances before taking them, reagent test kits are really not that expensive.
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Th111111
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You stupid fuck i already explained that they were not actual mushrooms you would take just like some store bough lookalike, how about you actually read what i said instead of just sounding like a dick
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Th111111
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Hey guess what it fucking happened where i live wow and this is not some dumb rumor it was found inside a pill WOW
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Re: Shrooms and PCP [Re: Th111111]
#23927688 - 12/14/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Th111111 said: Hey guess what it fucking happened where i live wow and this is not some dumb rumor it was found inside a pill WOW
TH111111 how did somebody "find" pcp inside of a pill? Did they test it with a drug kit? Did they take it and have a pcp trip? How did they know what a pcp trip was like?
You keep saying that it happened but your story doesn't really add up and you haven't presented any actual evidence that it did. If you're truly worried that you might purchase non-encapsulated mushrooms that are laced with something, I think you can pretty much stop worrying. It doesn't happen.
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Re: Shrooms and PCP [Re: Gravity]
#23927751 - 12/14/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would imagine somebody selling pcp as pcp and shrooms as shrooms to make more money than selling shrooms/pcp and making that money only once on the deal. Its the reason cocaine and heroin are not normally cut into ecstasy pills, people spend more money on those drugs as is.
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krypto2000
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Re: Shrooms and PCP [Re: Th111111]
#23928652 - 12/15/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Th111111 said: You stupid fuck i already explained that they were not actual mushrooms you would take just like some store bough lookalike, how about you actually read what i said instead of just sounding like a dick
If you're going to grind them up and put them in a pill why even go through the trouble of buying store bought mushrooms, drying em, and grinding them up. Why not put sawdust in the caps or flour or something? How do you know it was PCP, you have not answered that still. Was there any kind of testing done? It sounds to me like people ate some ground up mushrooms put into caps, tripped, and then thought, 'oh this is weird, must be PCP.'
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Did it test positive for PCP? Because you would've said that to back up your claim so obviously you didn't test it. If it wasn't tested positive stfu. The dealer would be LOSING money like this.
Your friend is an idiot for telling you this, and doesn't know anything about psychoactive chemicals.
Shrooms and PCP, there's no comparing the two, they are completely 100% different in every way.
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I'd appreciate some PcP.
It's winter baby, great time to get out running around, upsetting the whole town,, mr brown..
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Re: Shrooms and PCP [Re: Deemstar]
#23928814 - 12/15/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I feel like PcP is more trustworthy than your average elected official or politician.
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Re: Shrooms and PCP [Re: Deemstar]
#23928862 - 12/15/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Datura is more trustworthy than any elected officials.
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AuroraBorealis88
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krypto2000 said: You can't move because you're effectively unconscious, you've lost all touch with reality.
Nope I wasn't talking about people who were unconscious, these people (like I said) could see the cops coming in and they couldn't move and were very aware of what was going on.
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You're not paralyzed in the sense that your motor function does not work, you're just not conscious enough to use it. It would be akin to saying smoking DMT paralyzed you.
People do not get paralyzed from smoking DMT like they do with ketamine... People can still move while breaking through on DMT.
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Unresponsive != paralysis. If you're found face down in a pool from K that's death, not paralysis lol
He didn't die...
Edited by AuroraBorealis88 (12/20/16 04:04 PM)
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