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A Framework for the Legalization and Regulation of Cannabis in Canada
    #23922989 - 12/13/16 03:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

So a few months back, the Canadian government appointed a task force to study and provide guidance on the legalization of recreational use of cannabis in Canada due to be implemented next year.

The task force has now released its final report, with a variety of suggestions for the government to consider moving forward.

Full 112 page report here: http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/3237304/Framework-for-the-Legalization-and-Regulation-of.pdf

CBC did a quick summary of a number of points:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/marijuana-task-force-highlights-1.3894219
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The task force Justin Trudeau's Liberal government appointed to study how marijuana could be legalized and regulated in Canada released its report Tuesday, offering over 80 recommendations.

Here are some highlights from the report:
Sales and marketing

    Set the minimum age of purchase as 18, respecting the rights of provinces and territories to harmonize with sales of alcohol.
    Avoid selling alcohol and cannabis at the same location where possible: dedicated storefronts and direct mail are preferable.
    Limit the density and location of storefronts, including their proximity to schools and parks.
    Regulate retail sales at the provincial and territorial level.
    Restrict the promotion and advertising of cannabis products, similar to restrictions now in place for tobacco.
    Require plain packaging with company name, strain name, price, tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and cannabidiol (CBD) amounts and health warnings.
    Prohibit any product deemed "appealing to children," including products that look like candy.

Taxation

    Establish pricing and taxation following an economic analysis.
    Tax higher potency THC products at a higher rate to discourage purchase.
    Use revenue from cannabis regulation for drug prevention, education and treatment.​

Public consumption and possession

    Extend restrictions on public smoking of tobacco products and vaping to cannabis.
    Allow and regulate dedicated places to consume cannabis products (lounges, for example.)
    Limit public possession to 30 grams of dried, non-medical cannabis or its equivalent, with a corresponding sales limit.

Production and distribution

    Implement a system of licensed producers to grow cannabis in Canada.
    Allow personal cultivation of up to four plants per residence, with a height limit of 100 cm.
    Maintain medical marijuana access separately, with the same tax system as non-medical use.
    Move swiftly to create capacity for producing and selling cannabis.

Public education and safety


    Begin public education strategy immediately.
    Determine how to establish limits to prevent an increase in cannabis-impaired driving.





And it also appears that stocks in existing cannabis companies are rising in response to the proposal that cannabis be sold in store fronts but be banned from being sold in the same location as alcohol or tobacco (going against a number of provincial premier's arguments that the liquor board would be the best place): http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/pot-stocks-report-1.3894179

Am still making my way through the full report, but from the summary much of it is largely as would be expected.
Some aspects are mildly disconcerting,
not sure if the provision against things like candies will hinder the production of edibles or just the packaging.
It also feels a little off-putting that medical cannabis is advised to be taxed based on THC content -- given, CBD is better for a variety of health conditions, it seems off to tax certain patients more just on basis of what benefits them.  Can comprehend the sentiment behind the suggestion, but not sure it is the best handling.

This is supposed to heavily inform the legal system we will end up with starting next year, any Canadians have thoughts or feelings about how things are moving forward?  Anyone else want to offer outside criticism or views?

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Re: A Framework for the Legalization and Regulation of Cannabis in Canada [Re: Tantrika]
    #23923044 - 12/13/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Tax higher potency THC products at a higher rate to discourage purchase.

Extend restrictions on public smoking of tobacco products and vaping to cannabis.

Maintain medical marijuana access separately, with the same tax system as non-medical use.





these three heads are bullshit.

the rest sounds sensible. i swear, this is long overdue, JH. Christ, hurry up Canadorks.

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Re: A Framework for the Legalization and Regulation of Cannabis in Canada [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23923073 - 12/13/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Tax higher potency THC products at a higher rate to discourage purchase.

Extend restrictions on public smoking of tobacco products and vaping to cannabis.

Maintain medical marijuana access separately, with the same tax system as non-medical use.





these three heads are bullshit.

the rest sounds sensible. i swear, this is long overdue, JH. Christ, hurry up Canadorks.




The second one, regarding public consumption, is slightly less concerning reading further into the report.

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The Task Force recommends that jurisdictions:
f
Extend the current restrictions on public
smoking of tobacco products to the
smoking of cannabis products and to
cannabis vaping products
f
Be able to permit dedicated places to consume
cannabis such as cannabis lounges and tasting
rooms, if they wish to do so, with no federal
prohibition. Safeguards to prevent the co-
consumption with alcohol, prevent underage
use, and protect health and safety should
be implemented




So vape lounges and interior spaces to congregate and smoke should still hopefully be a thing, just if you're out at the movies you may have to step out to the curb before the show with everyone else.

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Re: A Framework for the Legalization and Regulation of Cannabis in Canada [Re: Tantrika]
    #23923087 - 12/13/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

oh yeah, that's less strident and more stringent than it first appears. i should be able to smoke in public, was my main concern.

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Re: A Framework for the Legalization and Regulation of Cannabis in Canada [Re: Tantrika]
    #23923265 - 12/13/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I don't have any big complaints about anything in there. The 100 cm height limit is a bit stupid though, and it would have made a lot of sense to sell it in liquor stores I think.

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Re: A Framework for the Legalization and Regulation of Cannabis in Canada [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23923278 - 12/13/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
oh yeah, that's less strident and more stringent than it first appears. i should be able to smoke in public, was my main concern.



Yeah, it appears the only advised limitations for public consumption are those listed in the summary -- limited to vape lounges or areas where tobacco can be smoked, and carry a maximum of 30 grams in public at a given time.
Province by province there will likely be some variation, but we should generally be good.

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Re: A Framework for the Legalization and Regulation of Cannabis in Canada [Re: psi]
    #23923298 - 12/13/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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psi said:
I don't have any big complaints about anything in there. The 100 cm height limit is a bit stupid though, and it would have made a lot of sense to sell it in liquor stores I think.




The height limit does feel really arbitrary -- suppose it is intended to limit overall production, but around 40ish pages into the report they talk about how the government should encourage outdoor production when available, where the growing season is longer and plant size is somewhat less controlled.
Having a height limit inclines me toward indoor growing and more frequent crop harvests. :shrug:
Wonder what their feelings on looping a plant through a scrog would be. :lol:

The liquor board idea seemed like it would have been better for ensuring good penetration of sales across provinces, but it is at least good to see that they want to discontinue the push against compassion clubs.

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Re: A Framework for the Legalization and Regulation of Cannabis in Canada [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23923421 - 12/13/16 05:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Tax higher potency THC products at a higher rate to discourage purchase.

Extend restrictions on public smoking of tobacco products and vaping to cannabis.

Maintain medical marijuana access separately, with the same tax system as non-medical use.





these three heads are bullshit.

the rest sounds sensible. i swear, this is long overdue, JH. Christ, hurry up Canadorks.




Trudeau will fuck it up somehow. I've got 0 faith in that guy, or any politician for that matter.
remember these are the recommendations made to Trudeau, and he can listen to or ignore them as he sees fit. I just feel like somehow he's gonna fuck it up in a big way

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