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Psilocybin-Cubensi
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My Monotub Pinset
#23922130 - 12/13/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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My monotub pinset so far.... So I ahve been misting and fanning alot over the past 5 days. Mushrooms are growing albeit kinda slow at least as far as I know. How long does it usually take a pin to mature to a mushroom? THought it took a couple days. Its been about 5 days since the first pin popped up. Looks like more and more popping up every day.
Any pros have any advice? Not sure if I should keep misting everytime the sub looks dry. I keep getting new pins.
Also in the up close mushroom picks is that the veils starting to break or is that the mushroom getting ready for some vertical growth? They are really fat and thick. Like a thumb.




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Huskies
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You still have a while for those, fat pins will get bigger.
Hopefully, those are just the quickest fruiters prior to a fuller flush, was this a MS grow? If so, maybe cloning one of the first shrooms to pop up will give you better results for the future. If you haven't done agar yet, do it. I put it off for the longest time and have seen immediate better results with the my first agar tub.
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SpicyWizard


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a bit dry keep misting. and you dont have to fan a monottub. the poly should give the correct gas exchange and FAE. you probably wont have to mist as much if you left the tub alone. looking good to me besides that
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Psilocybin-Cubensi
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Re: My Monotub Pinset [Re: Huskies]
#23922151 - 12/13/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah its a multispore.
Hey so are you telling me I should just leave the monotub alone? Instead of opening it multiple times a day to fan and mist?
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Huskies
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If it was done proper, it should do fine by itself for the first flush. I only started misting mine for the second.
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SpicyWizard


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yes. monotubs are built as a "build and leave it alone" system. misting is only needed after the second or third flush most of the time. the sub should have all needed humidity and support itself. pack the poly in your bottom holes as tight as possible. and the ones in the upper lightly. heres a super great tek:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777#17332777
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egobrain


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Those fat ones might be ready to harvest soon. The cap will start opening up, and you'll actually be able to see the veil stretch and start tearing. I left for school yesterday with a bunch of 'em looking like those fat ones, and when I got home about 12 hours later they had almost doubled in size and tore their veils open.
I'm definitely not a pro, but I would suggest you keep a close eye on that substrate since its not cased.
edit:
for agar. I'm definitely isolating for my next bulk grow.
Edited by egobrain (12/13/16 10:28 AM)
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NDStepp84
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Looks like you have plenty of knots, it will do way better than you think and those mushies have a lot of growing to do the veils haven't even began stretching yet You can't really go by pinset all the time, I have a clone that has a terrible pinset starting out but grows some dense monsters and out performs MS canopy grows of the same variety.
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Psilocybin-Cubensi
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I packed the bottom holes so tight when I first started that they were balls. But I loosened them up because I dont thing the air was circulating right. So I loosen the top and loosened the bottom and the mycelium and mushrooms looked better today and grew more. Dont know honestly. I tried to follow franks dialing in monotub tek. And I think I had the bottom too tight.
IM just afraid if the substrate dries out all my mushrooms die right?
Edited by Psilocybin-Cubensi (12/13/16 10:55 AM)
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SpicyWizard


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not always, at the end of flushes your sub will be dry, and youll want to dunk it under water for 12ish hours. thats how long i do at least. it rehydrates the sub in case it gets to dry, so dont worry.
but yes, you should keep it it wet...humid. humidity evaporation is a huge pinning trigger, as is air exchange. (two largest triggers...correct anybody?)
but fuck yeah! you have many knots brotha!
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Psilocybin-Cubensi
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How do I dunk it if I have a trashcan liner? There are pins on the sides. Do I lift the cake out of the tub and clean the sides then put it back in?
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DON'T dunk yet. But yeah, after the first flush just pour in a bottle's worth of water, swish it around so it spreads, and afterwards just drain it.
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Psilocybin-Cubensi
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Re: My Monotub Pinset [Re: Huskies]
#23923206 - 12/13/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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A gallon bottle? Or what?
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Huskies
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Sorry, a standard 500ml bottle should be fine. Last time I did it, when I went to empty it out, I realized the sub had absorbed most of it.
Some people literally fill the tub and weight it down, I'm not sure which is the preferred method.
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Kalsticky
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Quote:
Psilocybin-Cubensi said: I packed the bottom holes so tight when I first started that they were balls. But I loosened them up because I dont thing the air was circulating right. So I loosen the top and loosened the bottom and the mycelium and mushrooms looked better today and grew more. Dont know honestly. I tried to follow franks dialing in monotub tek. And I think I had the bottom too tight.
IM just afraid if the substrate dries out all my mushrooms die right?
The bottom holes can never be "too tight". Theyre suppose to be like that and the top holes should just be loose and fluffy. Your'e suppose to have a fan running pointed at the wall next to the tub on low. Thats why a monotub is "set and forget". No need for misting, fanning, or any of that stuff. since you keep opening the top its drying out. If the walls are dry right now mist it and dont open the lid till theyre mature.
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Re: My Monotub Pinset [Re: Kalsticky]
#23923826 - 12/13/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Like the others said, you don't need to fan a monotub, and only start misting at the second or third flush. Those fat mushies will still grow a lot, they're nowhere ready to be picked. Also I can see some side pinning on the right edge, next time try to make the liner stick to the substrate to avoid having a gap where mushies can grow.
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Psilocybin-Cubensi
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Re: My Monotub Pinset [Re: ymca]
#23925404 - 12/14/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The large mushrooms veils broke this morning so I picked them. I dont want spore contamination. Besides would prefer higher potency than larger caps.
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Psilocybin-Cubensi
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egobrain


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Beauties!
Are you drying them?
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Re: My Monotub Pinset [Re: egobrain]
#23927919 - 12/14/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I read something a few years back about using some bubble wrap to induce a nice pinset. I'm not a pro or anything but I've been growing steady for a few years. And I actually just started to try getting a nice pinset with bubble wrap. I've only ever used MS and I have yet to find out how the bubble wrap turned out. I've always had fairly decent pinsets but I've been looking for a nice consistent pinset with MS. When I dunk I usually pour in enough water until the whole thing starts to float for about an hour or so before I drain it.
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Re: My Monotub Pinset [Re: egobrain]
#23928727 - 12/15/16 09:37 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes I dried about 50 mushrooms yesterday the first 8 were the biggest. The rest were mostly side pins that were kinda lanky and what not. Came out to around 15 grams dry. But I had to pick around 15 larger mushrooms this morning. So I will go ahead and call that the end of the 1st flush even though I have a bunch of pins everywhere.
So I went ahead and poured in some water into the tub to let the sub soak it up then will empty was isnt absorbed in an hour.
EDIT: Looks like the total first flush came to around 22 Grams dry. Dunked the tub for an hour by pouring about half a gallon into the tub and let soak for an hr. Then drained. Aired out a little bit then misted.
Edited by Psilocybin-Cubensi (12/15/16 01:47 PM)
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Psilocybin-Cubensi
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Alright so I had a stead stream of harvesting mushrooms for about 5 days or so. Yesterday Im down to like 4-5 large pins. And not really any of them on the top surface. Would this indicate the end of a flush? Do I initate pinning again by fanning and misting?
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egobrain


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You could try dunking or bottom watering. I'm sure the sub has dried out quite a bit by now.
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