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21 Grams
    #2392212 - 03/01/04 08:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Is it REALLY tre the body looses 21 grams at the time of death? I searched for the topic, but came with no results. If this is so, it would be proof that there really is some sort of astral body holding our conciousness togethor.


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Re: 21 Grams [Re: 2Experimental]
    #2392225 - 03/01/04 08:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Maybe your asshole losesns up and you just fart.


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Re: 21 Grams [Re: 2Experimental]
    #2392277 - 03/01/04 08:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I don't think it's true... I've never heard it before the movie came out. But if this "spirit" is affected by gravity, then it's not supernatural.


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Re: 21 Grams [Re: 2Experimental]
    #2392307 - 03/01/04 08:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

it's a myth.


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Re: 21 Grams [Re: barfightlard]
    #2392324 - 03/01/04 09:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

should he "embarce this moment" while is ass losens up bellylard?


I dunno about that idea of 21 grams, I don't htink it's true


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Re: 21 Grams [Re: 2Experimental]
    #2392722 - 03/01/04 11:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Of course not. What would you be losing? Your 'soul'?


Oh and btw, I thought that movie stank, just pulling on heartstrings with cheap plot tools like killing children.


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Re: 21 Grams [Re: 2Experimental]
    #2392730 - 03/01/04 11:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Why would that be proof of an "astral body"? Why would an "astral body" that holds our conciousness weight anything in the physical world?


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Re: 21 Grams [Re: kaiowas]
    #2392738 - 03/01/04 11:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

hahah whats that suppost to mean


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Re: 21 Grams [Re: 2Experimental]
    #2392742 - 03/01/04 11:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I remeber reading a paper about this topic sometime ago...and it had soemthign to do with when the body died a gland in the brain (pineal? i can't remeber) got smaller, or dropped in size or something....i wish i could remeber


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Re: 21 Grams [Re: 2Experimental]
    #2392747 - 03/01/04 11:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've never heard of this... but I have heard of light being recorded leaving the foreheads of dying people at the moment of death.. from pictures and witnesses.. forget what it's called.


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Re: 21 Grams [Re: 2Experimental]
    #2392891 - 03/01/04 11:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Maybe the average human just loses their entire brain when they die.  21 grams sounds about right. :lol:


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Re: 21 Grams [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2392908 - 03/02/04 12:00 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Could be that one last fart everyone is holding in when they are dying.......................................... :shiftyeyes:


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Re: 21 Grams [Re: Shroomism]
    #2392915 - 03/02/04 12:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Shroomism: More information please!


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Re: 21 Grams [Re: HidingInPlainSight]
    #2393082 - 03/02/04 01:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i heard everyone shits/pisses when they die


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Re: 21 Grams [Re: 2Experimental]
    #2394308 - 03/02/04 10:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If they shit when they die, they will shit in the bed, which also is part of the scale.
I read your link Mushmaster ( http://www.snopes.com/religion/soulweight.asp ) and it is wrong to call this a myth. Dr. MacDougall made only a few experiments, mkay, but of course this was due to the controversial nature of such a study. He seemed to have a proper scientific attitude, claiming that no absolute conclusion could be made upon his few experiments, and that more had to be done.

As far as I know Dr. MacDougall's 6 experiments are all that have been done, and no further studies have been openly conducted.

The evidence is vague, but who would dare to take up where he left?

There are of course the phenomena of near death experiences which has been mapped by various scientist. There seem to be a kind of astral body carrying our consciousness, which leaves the body upon death.

It would not be surprising to me if this astral body weighted a little. Energy is matter, and matter has weight. This astral body may be some subtler form of matter... What is matter anyway?


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Re: 21 Grams [Re: The_Visionaire]
    #2394333 - 03/02/04 10:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Energy cannot be destroyed nor can it be created, so where does the energy that makes us alive and move go? I guess we'll never know untill death comes for us, huh?


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Re: 21 Grams [Re: MNS]
    #2394352 - 03/02/04 10:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Swami will come for you first, I'm afraid... :shiftyeyes:


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Re: 21 Grams [Re: The_Visionaire]
    #2394358 - 03/02/04 10:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Swami?


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Re: 21 Grams [Re: MNS]
    #2394370 - 03/02/04 10:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Do not name the devil!!
you will see... :oogle:


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Re: 21 Grams [Re: The_Visionaire]
    #2394396 - 03/02/04 10:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I don't follow you compleatly, the visionaire. So what I said before wasen't a good thing? I didn't mean that I do not belive in heaven and hell, because I do. I was raised as a Southern Baptist, and belive in God, and the soul/spirt as well as the Devil. So... Swami is the Devil, correct me if I am wrong? Or am I not supposed to say that? Just wondering, also very courious on what other people belive about issues such as this.


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