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I'll see if I have something cheap to ship for one
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LogicaL Chaos
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Re: Vinyl DJ's [Re: Apostle]
#23918322 - 12/12/16 12:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So Apostle, are u a Traktor guy or a Sereto Guy?
Im a Traktor guy. It just looks right to me on the screen
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I bought my Technic 1200 mkIIs over 15 years ago, new, for 450$ apiece. They still work smooth as butter. I don't really know what the market looks like for them nowadays, but I know there's always used ones on eBay. It's the kind of item that is safe to buy used because those things are tough. I really recommend 1200s, nothing else compares. Not only are they durable, but they make dj'ing so much better because you don't have to compensate for subpar decks. They make things easier.
The mixer isn't as important. Mine is a Vestax PCV-175, I think I paid 200-250$ for it all those years ago. But as long as you get something that can fade smoothly from one channel to the other, picking a mixer isn't as big a deal as picking the right record player. Again, I'm not up to date on pricing, but I'm sure you can get a totally serviceable mixing console for 100$ or less. If I was buying one, I'd probably get a new one over a used one because mixers aren't as durable as Technic 1200s, and that's a piece of equipment that people tend to beat up on. It's very frustrating dealing with a mixer that you have to repair, or has limited functionality. Get a new one, but get one that's relatively bare bones; starting out, you don't need all the bells & whistles, and while something like a Pioneer DJM-600 is awesome, it's totally unnecessary.
Good luck dude, hmu with any questions or however else I can help you.
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Dj Burkey D, in da hoooouse!
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Just found out my current turntables, Numark TTX USB, are no longer for sale.
I now own a pair of rare Turntables baby!

Looks like this Numark TT250 is its replacement: http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-NUM-TT250USB?src=Y0802G00SRCHCAPN&scid=scplp12366738&sc_intid=NUM+TT250USB&gclid=CLfZ1OD18NACFQ6bfgodJ7UHGw
looks exactly like a Technics 1200 but costs only $300. Its the highest end u can go with Numark. Looks decent to me. I know my TTX is quite decent indeed.
I also looked at some custom Technics, like white and black, some go for $1000-1500 for one table! 
Damn wish i was rich
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millzy


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i can't believe 1200's are $1000 a pop now. you used to be able to get a nice used pair for $300.
i'd go with 12's if you're going with vinyl. if you're wanting to mix electronic music i would recommend a pioneer mixer. the DJM series is great. an older DJM750 would probably be perfect if you're not needing a bunch of bells and whistles. if you're wanting to mix beats and breaks/hip hop and scratch, get a two channel vestax battle mixer. they're all pretty good. my only complaint with vestax is that the curves on the faders of the mixers i've owned/used aren't super great (like you have with the pioneers). they're hardly trash though.
i honestly don't see the appeal with vinyl, especially now that the equipment is so costly. don't get me wrong, i learned to spin vinyl in my early 20's. it's a lot of fun. but for the kind of money you have to spend on equipment alone (not to mention the stacks of cash you'll be dropping on wax every week if you're serious), it's silly when you compare it to a solid digital dj set up for not even half of that (along with the $20 a week in .wav/.mp3's that will get you more than enough music to learn and spin every week).
as someone who has literally grown up around a lot of working dj's, people who have houses full of wax, i think the vinyl obsession is silly. no disrespect to the connoisseurs, but it's just not practical for most people, especially beginners. if i were to ever give dj'ing a serious go i would go digital all the way. i pretty much have everything i need for it aside from the time.
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Edited by millzy (12/13/16 07:19 AM)
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Re: Vinyl DJ's [Re: millzy]
#23921846 - 12/13/16 07:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Some folks just like vinyl, millzy. 
I love vinyl, but I can't stand vinyl purists. CDs & digital formats have merit too, especially if you're gigging. But I think Phil wants to just play at home, and he's already hooked on the black crack. I do agree that a vinyl set up may not be the most practical, but it's just so much fun. Also, if he wants to later switch to digital, he can just get serato or a similar set up, integrate it all. There's an appeal to dj'ing with just vinyl.
Which brings me to another point that I think you'll get because we're about the same age. Every time I see an event flyer that has "ALL VINYL SET!!!" or even "ALL VINYL NIGHT!!!" used as a selling point, it kinda takes me aback. I never thought about it back in the 90s, that vinyl would become so scarcely played that it's now a novel selling point. Time was that unless the flyer specified "live PA", you assumed it was an "all vinyl night". When you'd see a dj on CDJs, it was crazy, like "damn, this guy has serious money". And now I've got bracelets with flash drives in them so if I was ever out & wanted to do an impromptu set, I could pop my music off my wrists & play off the cdj. The technology is awesome any more. But I still think it's great when people want to learn to mix the old way.
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millzy


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oh yeah. don't get me wrong, i like vinyl. i'm not trying to talk phil - or anyone else - out of collecting and learning to spin vinyl. people are entitled to their preferences. i was just sharing mine.
and i can't stand vinyl purism. for anyone to hold such a position in a field of music that prides itself on technological innovation and discovery is laughable. for me it's always been about what's coming out of the speakers rather than what's going on in the booth. if i'm paying to hear someone play, i just want to hear a good set. i couldn't care less about how that happens.
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Re: Vinyl DJ's [Re: millzy]
#23923396 - 12/13/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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i agree. vinyl purism is silly to me.
I like to use both vinyl and digital music.
playing digital music is way more cost effective. I saw a motorized turntable deck from Numark (has 2 decks) for $500. great deal. Even thou it only works with a computer, its pretty awesome IMO and most music is digital these days anyway.
That being said, theres nothing like scratching a vinyl record thou.
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Re: Vinyl DJ's [Re: millzy]
#23923727 - 12/13/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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but check this out.
This year, panasonic brought back the Technics 1200. Its now called the Technics 1200-GS. This bad ass gem costs over $4000!
pretty insane right. I bet $2500 of that is in the motor itself 
Im glad Panasonic brought it back thou, makes my vinyl heart gleem 
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Burke Dennings
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OP should get the 24k gold edition. "Diamond" Phil Cybin.
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LogicaL Chaos
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24 carot Gold FTW.
I found some black ones with a gold tone arm. Looked dope as fuck
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Quote:
Burke Dennings said: OP should get the 24k gold edition. "Diamond" Phil Cybin.

that's hella AF and I'm gonna start planning my kingpin op to afford it 
milz and burke, thanks for the advice; you confirmed a few things I was leaning towards, but it's always nice to get confirmation from those who know more.
I'm not as ballin as I thought I would be right now, so I'm just gonna take my time and slowly scout out hella deals and put it together.
lmk if you guys see any tech 12's for cheap. I pretty much decided I'm not going with anything else, but can't decide between the mk2 or mk5
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LogicaL Chaos
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i would go for the MKII as u are looking for "cheap". Just my two cents.
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millzy


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Quote:
LogicaL Chaos said:
That being said, theres nothing like scratching a vinyl record thou.
even with scratching, digital surpasses vinyl. one of the huge differences is that with digital scratching is that the sound quality is not diminished when you scratch; with vinyl, depressing the record with your finger warps the sound. if you listen for it in any of your dj sets in your collection that feature scratching, you can probably tell.
here's d-styles (of the invisibl skratch piklz) using the vestax spin controller. sounds pretty good to me.
i think the platters need to be a little larger on the controller though.
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millzy


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Quote:
Burke Dennings said: OP should get the 24k gold edition. "Diamond" Phil Cybin.

lol there was a big name dj who had a pair of those. i can't recall who it was atm.
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Re: Vinyl DJ's [Re: millzy]
#23925022 - 12/14/16 05:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Was it Dj fresh?
Another reason why i like vinyl tables is the size. All digital tables are small, like 8", while vinyl is 12". Big difference.
I still prefer the sound of vinyl scratching, i guess im a scratch pervert
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just found out Pioneer makes their own Dj table, and its decently priced at 350$: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-PLX-500-Direct-Drive-DJ-Turntable-Black-/272414097146?nav=SEARCH
And Pioneer has a good rep for quality. their car decks are really nice and their CD decks are unmatched and basically dominate the CD Djing market.
I would pick up a pair if i could
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