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burtonRebel


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Lame ass ID request
#23920784 - 12/12/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Went out on a foray with some of my co-workers/friends which was really cool. We were on my turf and I got to share some cool places that I usually try very hard to keep secret. They all went home with a shopping bag full of mushrooms. We found 2 mushrooms that were the same species and were really bewildering to me and everyone else. I should have grabbed more pictures and looked around to see what types of trees were nearby(mixed hardwood/conifer). I suck. Anyways this is a lame ass id request like all the other non-informative id requests on here. At least I'm upfront about that though, right? I have that going for me.
 Those bumps/scales on the pileus seem pretty unique. Any ideas?
Edited by burtonRebel (12/13/16 10:40 AM)
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burtonRebel


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I just remembered the large one with a 10" cap hadn't dropped its veil and it made my friends hand white with whatever was coating/on the veil. Wish I had gotten a better look at the base. Don't know if it's an Agaricus or an Amanita.
Edited by burtonRebel (12/12/16 08:50 PM)
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Gravity
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Hello Burton Rebel,
Your first one needs more photos for a real i.d. To identify any mushroom, you need to be able to see the stem and gills. Also a spore print helps. Also, to properly id your find, we will need to know your general location.
You may compare it to the Shaggy Parasol, Chlorophyllum Brenneum/rhacodes.
Edited by Gravity (12/12/16 09:47 PM)
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perkysmiles
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Re: Lame ass ID request [Re: Gravity]
#23921225 - 12/12/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Gravity said: Hello Burton Rebel,
Your first one needs more photos for a real i.d. To identify any mushroom, you need to be able to see the stem and gills. Also a spore print helps. Also, to properly id your find, we will need to know your general location.
You may compare it to the Shaggy Parasol, Chlorophyllum Brenneum/rhacodes.

Also look at pholiota populnea or amanita cokeri
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Ran-D



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burtonRebel said: I just remembered the large one with a 10" cap hadn't dropped its veil and it made my friends hand white with whatever was coating/on the veil. Wish I had gotten a better look at the base. Don't know if it's an Agaricus or an Amanita.
Sounds/looks like an Amanita.
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maynardjameskeenan
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What color are the gills?
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forsakenshroom
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While I am only a novice identifier, I am joined with a Mycological society and plan to study to be more reliable as one, but for now consider me like a slightly more informed beginner.
I genuinely do not believe that this is a Chlorophyllum sp. This look like an Amanita button, though like other people have mentioned, it can be hard to ID without the stem and the rest of the features.
An important confirming feature for Chlorophyllum sp. is a stem that is generally longer than the cap is wide (part of why they are called (shaggy) parasols), and they are supposed to have distinctive rings. Unfortunately, without more pictures I can't confirm or deny fully. But I see no shaggy breakage here, to me these look like warts. (A part of how I identify one of the Shaggy Parasols from buttons is that they look almost "feathery" like little brown owls from behind, especially C. olivieri)
I believe with the very angular warts you can see here that this is an Amanita sp. But the warts in particular are HUGE for the other warted amanitas. I'm actually thinking this is Amanita magniverrucata. Now I've never seen this mushroom in real life and I don't know your location, or how common it is. But you did mention pine trees nearby and that's what this one grows under. Hopefully someone else can confirm.
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Gravity
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More photos would help.
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Ran-D



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forsakenshroom said: While I am only a novice identifier, I am joined with a Mycological society and plan to study to be more reliable as one, but for now consider me like a slightly more informed beginner.
I genuinely do not believe that this is a Chlorophyllum sp. This look like an Amanita button, though like other people have mentioned, it can be hard to ID without the stem and the rest of the features.
An important confirming feature for Chlorophyllum sp. is a stem that is generally longer than the cap is wide (part of why they are called (shaggy) parasols), and they are supposed to have distinctive rings. Unfortunately, without more pictures I can't confirm or deny fully. But I see no shaggy breakage here, to me these look like warts. (A part of how I identify one of the Shaggy Parasols from buttons is that they look almost "feathery" like little brown owls from behind, especially C. olivieri)
I believe with the very angular warts you can see here that this is an Amanita sp. But the warts in particular are HUGE for the other warted amanitas. I'm actually thinking this is Amanita magniverrucata. Now I've never seen this mushroom in real life and I don't know your location, or how common it is. But you did mention pine trees nearby and that's what this one grows under. Hopefully someone else can confirm.
I agree, it is certainly not a Chlorophyllum species. A. magniverrucata is very likely due to the large pyramid warts that appear to be attached to the cap.
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burtonRebel


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Re: Lame ass ID request [Re: Gravity]
#23924496 - 12/13/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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thanks all! I think ran-d is right, that it is an amanita. That was my first impression looking back, but i didn't check for the presence of a vulva. I don't have more pictures unfortunately, and I didn't think to look for more features at the time. it was only after I got home that I thought about what an interesting mushroom it was.
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