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Re: Brother snitched on himself. What to do? [Re: Konyap]
#23921293 - 12/12/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Damn, Alabama is harsh. I agree don't talk to cops, ever. Make them come find you, and then keep your mouth the fuck closed. Always. No exceptions. Court is different but cops you do not ever do what they want.
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Re: Brother snitched on himself. What to do? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23921423 - 12/12/16 11:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm in Alabama too, man. Snitching won't help your brother, he'll still get fucked with. Don't do it.
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Can somebody explain to me why that wouldn't be classed as entrapment?
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Re: Brother snitched on himself. What to do? [Re: pineninja] 1
#23921442 - 12/13/16 12:01 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Because Alabama.
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Re: Brother snitched on himself. What to do? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23921450 - 12/13/16 12:04 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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" The Code of Alabama, 1975, section 13A-3-31, titled "Entrapment" states: "The Alabama Criminal Code adopts the present case law on entrapment."
That simply means the Code of Alabama adopts the decisional law of the state and federal courts as the applicable law. In Sorrells v. United States (287 U.S. 435 (1932)), the case where it had first recognized entrapment as a valid defense, and Sherman v. United States (356 U.S. 369 (1958)), another entrapment case involving an undercover drug investigation, the Court had chosen to ground entrapment in the question of whether it could be established that the defendant had a "predisposition" to commit the crime absent government involvement. This has become known as the "subjective" test of entrapment since it involves evaluating the defendant's state of mind. It was somewhat controversial in both decisions, even though they were unanimous in overturning the convictions, because concurrences in both cases had criticized it sharply and called instead for an "objective" standard which concentrated instead on the behavior of law enforcement. Later, in United States v. Russell, 411 U.S. 423 (1973), the Court stated the rule of review should be the objective test, and not a subjective evaluation of the officer's conduct. The current decisional law in all federal circuit and in the state of Alabama states that if the defendant was "predisposed" to commit the officer, then the defense of entrapment must fail."
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Re: Brother snitched on himself. What to do? [Re: pineninja]
#23921456 - 12/13/16 12:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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In America police don't really obey the law while they enforce the law as they see fit, especially when it comes to drugs we're kinda used to it, and the public has little sympathy for our plight in many places.
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Re: Brother snitched on himself. What to do? [Re: seekeroftruth] 1
#23921457 - 12/13/16 12:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your brother is an idiot. Don't let him keep being one. Tell him to tell the cops to charge him or kick rocks. That's not just a line to sound like a criminal hardass or some shit, the longer he continues to interact with the cops (even if he thinks it's keeping him out of jail) the more likely he is to fuck up and dig a deeper hole. NO GOOD WILL COME OF COOPERATING WITH THEM in this instance. They don't have the power to make deals (it's true they can just decide to not charge you, but if you've complied with their demands, what is their incentive? The every day user has no real value to the police).
It sounds more like they just want something more rock solid to charge him with and are preying upon his fear to make him present them with the evidence necessary to do it. Can almost guarantee that if he did give them the bag of weed, they might ask a couple of questions about where he got it but it wouldn't go much further than that. Well beyond him being arrested for possession. A paraphernalia case (at least in this case) is pretty damn flimsy. They have some wire and whatever material pipe cleaners are made of coated in some kind of black substance. To charge him, they'd have to send it to a lab to verify that it's even an illicit substance.
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Re: Brother snitched on himself. What to do? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23921464 - 12/13/16 12:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I may be naive but if the cops break the law whilst enforcing it and you can prove it, the charges will be dropped . It seems in Alabama they've changed the law to be able to say that they would've done it anyway some sort of weird Ad hominem.
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Re: Brother snitched on himself. What to do? [Re: pineninja]
#23921470 - 12/13/16 12:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well we're in a position where you either need to pay out the ass for a lawyer, or take it in the ass by the courts. It's lose lose.
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Re: Brother snitched on himself. What to do? [Re: moonrockmushy] 3
#23921472 - 12/13/16 12:19 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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co-operating with cops = someone being shot in a raid or someone's life being completely ruined
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Re: Brother snitched on himself. What to do? [Re: Konyap] 2
#23921476 - 12/13/16 12:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Entrap the entrappers,
get him to turn up with some cabbages in a zip lock and a hidden news/film crew and lawyer ready to expose the corrupt police tactics of entrapment and encouraging him to commit an illegal act in buying weed. Tell him to go to them wired and get audio recordings of them telling him to buy the weed first. Really make it stick and fuck them up. Expose them and sue for damages and get paid nigga.
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Re: Brother snitched on himself. What to do? [Re: nice1returns]
#23921560 - 12/13/16 01:47 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your brother should refuse to say a single word to the police. NOTHING but "I'm exercising my right to not talk with you."
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It blows my mind how ass backwards the south is. That's more severe than a DUI here. We've contacted a lawyer and he believes they'll probably drop the charges, but the county I'm in IS known for being extremely petty when it comes to drug charges.
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Re: Brother snitched on himself. What to do? [Re: seekeroftruth]
#23921779 - 12/13/16 06:39 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
seekeroftruth said: Here's the deal. My brother was in a minor car accident where he accidentally dented someone bumper. Nothing major, easily fixable. However, there were 4 undercover or off duty cops who witnessed the accident.
Did he even get a ticket?
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Re: Brother snitched on himself. What to do? [Re: vinsue]
#23921790 - 12/13/16 06:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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IF they search my house and confiscate my computer, could they use any of my shroomery post history against me?
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Re: Brother snitched on himself. What to do? [Re: seekeroftruth]
#23921799 - 12/13/16 07:01 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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have them get a empty ziplock. hold it in their hand and go to some event where police will be present. shake hands with a promonent one with bag in hand. put some weed in it and take it to them. say I really don't know the guy but his prints are on it.
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Re: Brother snitched on himself. What to do? [Re: trscstghst] 1
#23921808 - 12/13/16 07:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Such dishonest cops...
He should just not do anything and let themcome to the house (THAT HE CLEANED UP THOROUGHLY IN CASE OF POTENTIAL WARRANT)... But there won't be. They're only playing the "how stupid can stupid be" IMO... "I got a guy to walk to a cop station with a bag of weed". It sounds like the beginning of there Christmas party conversation followed by "Oh yeah!, I got a guy to actually sell me cocaine while I was in uniform!"
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Re: Brother snitched on himself. What to do? [Re: trscstghst]
#23921809 - 12/13/16 07:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would show up with a garbage full of wild weeds and play dumb as fuck.
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Re: Brother snitched on himself. What to do? [Re: T-Funkadelic]
#23921816 - 12/13/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Also, Why the fuck did 4 undercover cops blow there cover for a fender bender????????
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Re: Brother snitched on himself. What to do? [Re: Patlal]
#23921831 - 12/13/16 07:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Because this is a troll thread is why
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