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Re: Cheapo camping hacks [Re: Maverick] 1
#23925996 - 12/14/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said: Only downside to cast iron is you have to grease it.
..and that they're too damn heavy.
And are you backpacking it in or do you just bring it "car" camping? If you're backpacking with it, what size skillet are you using?
If I could trust my health more I'd love to backpack. But for the moment I camp close to the car. I do light hiking for the most part. I camp more to just get out of the city and look for rocks than anything else. And to cook dank campfire food 
You can take alot of comforts if you have a car. Alot more if you have an SUV. I'm looking for another camp mate (of the furry variety) and I've seen people make small pack mules out of them ...tho more often than not they're carrying their own food and water.
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Maverick said: Maintaining cast iron isn't very difficult. It can take some abuse so if you're not greasing it after every time you cook it it's not the biggest deal, you'll just have to re-season it sooner rather than later.
What I tend to do is apply a new coast of oil to it before I heat it up, then I heat the pan with the coals, so it's getting a new polymerized seasoning while the coals are getting ready.
That is the key to proper cast iron- making sure the oil you add is polymerized, because it's not adding any seasoning layers if the coating doesn't reach a smoke point and polymerize.
For sure. I'm sadly forgetful though. I lost my skillet in a state park cuz I set it out to be cleaned and completely forgot it. have an ultralight cook set I've been using and it's done alright. Lot easier on me when my health problems act up. I do miss my hardy heavy pan quite a bit tho. I could comfortably lay that thing directly in the fire if I wanted to. I'm constantly worried about warping the small aluminium skillet I have now
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Yea I can't say car camping particularly appeals to me. Car camping just seems like someone who doesn't want to pay to rent a cabin 
But honestly it just seems too safe to me. The danger is part of the fun
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Renting a cabin sounds like what someone who doesn't want to camp would do.
I used to be all about going into the woods on my own and having it out with the wilderness, but these days I don't have as much free time and I'd rather spend my time in the woods relaxing and enjoying good company. Most people I know don't want to backpack, they just want to drive to a campsite and have a car to go sightseeing or whatever. I'm cool with that, glad to have people in my life that will at least go for that, and I can still go backpacking on my own if I like.
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CookieCrumbs said: ... You can take alot of comforts if you have a car. Alot more if you have an SUV. I'm looking for another camp mate (of the furry variety) and I've seen people make small pack mules out of them ...tho more often than not they're carrying their own food and water.
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I'm furry not in the modern sense I just have alot of body hair
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I'll have to post a pic of my truck next time I head down to the beach it's quite the outdoor mobile. Definitely a South Texas shark fishing thing.
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bloodsheen said: Yea I can't say car camping particularly appeals to me. Car camping just seems like someone who doesn't want to pay to rent a cabin 
But honestly it just seems too safe to me. The danger is part of the fun
Eh I'll agree if you're talking actual car camping hehe (as opposed to overland SUV/Truck camping). When I was traveling around the PNW with a camry I would camp in campgrounds and set up the tent because renting a cabin was $50 a night in state and national parks, hotels were between $40-$80 for budget places... Was much cheaper to pay between $5-$22 for a campground.
Overland camping is a completely altogether different story. You're offroading into places that just don't have amenities in any way shape or form- there is no park service out there, you've got a dirt road into the forest or up into the mountains that you get as far back into as you can possibly going while challenging your driving abilities, then you set up camp for a day or more and you go hiking or mountain biking from that base camp. Some people have amazing camp setups that basically makes a cabin pointless- Rooftop tent with actual heating, awnings off the side of the vehicle, portable fire rings, chainsaw and splitting maul for all the wood you can ever want, etc.
Eventually I'll get to that point, right now I'm still working on building the rig's suspension up to what I want. My next steps are armoring it with plate steel underneath and for the rear and front bumpers.
Often more than not you end up down an old trail no one's been on in decades, it requires a lot of work getting down those trails, especially if you don't have a chainsaw...

But by afternoon, nearing evening usually you've found a decent area to set up camp. In this case I made a fire ring in the middle of nowhere after having to hack through over 8 fallen trees and a crap-ton of overgrown trail. The road was still open according to the wildlife fish and game wardens, they just said "be careful, a lot of the trails aren't used anymore and you may run into fallen trees, landslides, and other obstacles. If in doubt turn around."

Cabin camping is fun but it's too much like state park camping where you're going to have a bunch of people in minivans in the other camping grounds with their kids running around.
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Re: Cheapo camping hacks [Re: Maverick]
#23926631 - 12/14/16 03:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fyi yall tent cots are tits.
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Nothing beats a hammock and a couple of strategically hung tarps.
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Re: Cheapo camping hacks [Re: Maverick]
#23926643 - 12/14/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I see your point, you're sort of using the vehicle as a giant pack and an additional entertainment source. I was def imagining somebody taking a car to a bigass state park and just parking off to the side and setting up a tent. Vehicles are not fun for me, I think thats the issue. All I'm imagining is getting a $25k possession stuck in the middle of nowhere, or it not starting or whatever. Maybe if I was handy with a car I'd be ok with it, but I can't even change a belt
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I've seen $60k trucks destroyed at my local beach but they were asking for it. One of them was a friends. Hammocks are nice too. But I'll stick with the tent cot..bug protection and doesn't sound like tarps in 20+mph SE wind.
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bloodsheen said: Yea I can't say car camping particularly appeals to me. Car camping just seems like someone who doesn't want to pay to rent a cabin 
But honestly it just seems too safe to me. The danger is part of the fun
I think you may have misunderstood. You don't camp IN your car. Just near it. Tho I have slept in it a few times when I forgot the sleeping bag.
...why the hell would I sleep in a cabin or an RV/camper when I could sleep on the cold hard ground?
Besides, cabins ARE expensive. I have a $50 tent and a $10 tarp. Admittance to state parks and wma's are normally <$10 and I usually get an annual pass for one of the closer ones for $25. I like being outside. I like building fires. I like climbing. I like looking at trees and creeks and rocks and critters and stars and clouds and the random little discoveries you can find if you looked hard enough. I like depending on myself. And depending on myself to be responsible and not put myself in a bad position where I get hurt and I can't get myself to help.
Which would include off roading and distant wilderness trail hiking. I may want to do these things but they're not feasible for me.
For other people... Most ones I see 'car camping' usually have kids. Or just want a quiet place to get piss drunk and be obnoxiously loud.
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bloodsheen said: I see your point, you're sort of using the vehicle as a giant pack and an additional entertainment source. I was def imagining somebody taking a car to a bigass state park and just parking off to the side and setting up a tent. Vehicles are not fun for me, I think thats the issue. All I'm imagining is getting a $25k possession stuck in the middle of nowhere, or it not starting or whatever. Maybe if I was handy with a car I'd be ok with it, but I can't even change a belt
As far as city and street driving goes, I really hate driving, I hate having to deal with traffic and stupid people. Zero enjoyment. I guess I find the technical driving offroad fun. Like check this out:
I actually caught a little air with vehicle over the bumps, all the sound is actually stuff in my Thule box bouncing around, not the actual suspension, that's why it's noisy. The new suspension i put in there took it like a champ- no bottoming out, was crazy smooth- had I done that in a stock xterra I would have broken leaf springs or blown a coilover out. I think it's exhilarating offroading when you don't have to deal with other traffic as well.
Keep in mind you don't have to have an expensive rig to do overlanding- generally the cheaper the better, plus the more common the parts on the vehicle the better. I did the wrong thing as far as an overlanding rig went, I've got a $15,000 vehicle with specialized suspension parts, BUT I know these parts can take the beating, even if they break they'll still hold together enough for me to limp out of wherever I'm at.
You can buy a $2,000 1st gen xterra, tacoma, etc, and still have just as much fun, and go the same places with the same amount of gear as I could with my shiny new Xterra. All personal preference as far as the vehicle, provided you're using a body-on-frame truck style vehicle with sturdy parts.
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Re: Cheapo camping hacks [Re: Maverick]
#23926760 - 12/14/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thats basically how I intend on living, going to backpack around this year, later I'll invest in a truck and live out if it.
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I've been considering getting a big hippie van and living out of it but my family and, more importantly, my partner were... Not amused with the suggestion.
Now that I have a smart phone I really don't feel I'd really want anything I'd need a house for. Only thing I'd miss that I really cant have in a van is a toilet.
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Ive had to put it off time and again, its been my intention for years and is hardly a lofty goal, but shit happens.
As far as peoples opinions that sort of thing doesn't mean much to me, the only hitch with people is sexual partners, but even then not everyone is dead set against hoboery. I'd rather live my life the way I please, out in nature with few expenses, than caught up in someone elses expectations.
Of course that depends on how much it means to you, Ive had to put it off for the sake of various priorities.
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I feel you. I wish I could live that way but it's not in my personality to. I mean I could to it and break up with my gf and face my parents disappointment every time I see them... But I'd rather not. Least not right now.
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Yeah I started the ball rolling a long time ago, if anyone is surprised by my actions at this point they're retarded. Eating a baby wouldn't be far out of character
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I lived out of a van in hawaii for like 6-7 months, was nice to wake up on the beach, go hit the gym and then off to work. Stupid cops will bother you any chance they get though..
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Repertoire89 said: Yeah I started the ball rolling a long time ago, if anyone is surprised by my actions at this point they're retarded. Eating a baby wouldn't be far out of character
yeah I think that was my problem. For some reason always keeping a steady composure is almost always my problem.
I hope you can find a good truck to hobo in so I can live vicariously through you though.
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liloldme said: I lived out of a van in hawaii for like 6-7 months, was nice to wake up on the beach, go hit the gym and then off to work. Stupid cops will bother you any chance they get though..
Damn coppers, planning on dispersed camping on federal land, somewhere far enough from the city to see the stars at night, but close enough to do work stuff on the weekends. The main issue then is finding a vehicle with decent gas mileage which can survive on a trail... one step at a time
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Repertoire89 said: Yeah I started the ball rolling a long time ago, if anyone is surprised by my actions at this point they're retarded. Eating a baby wouldn't be far out of character
yeah I think that was my problem. For some reason always keeping a steady composure is almost always my problem.
I hope you can find a good truck to hobo in so I can live vicariously through you though.
I'll take it easy for the both of us, but it may be awhile, not sure how 2017 will play out. Likely purchase a vehicle late in the year but its up in the air
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