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RJ Tubs 202


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Re: When I'm alone I'm okay, then I'm not okay. [Re: Morel Guy]
#23930818 - 12/15/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Morel Guy said: I have learned depending on people and them failing at that really sucks. Nothing makes me feel more alone than asshole friends that don't understand the real me.
Your suffering is shared by many millions of people throughout human history.
Beware of believing someone's "understanding" is what you need to be happy.
It's nobody else's job to come thru for you or love you or understand you.
That's your job.
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akira_akuma
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Re: When I'm alone I'm okay, then I'm not okay. [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#23933120 - 12/16/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Electric Wizard21
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Re: When I'm alone I'm okay, then I'm not okay. [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#23934662 - 12/17/16 07:01 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said: people are farouche.
True, well referenced
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beforethedawn
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Yeah facebook is pretty lame but I guess I was just saying, I want to connect despite loving solitude. I don't think I'm entirely honest with myself.
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Electric Wizard21
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Re: When I'm alone I'm okay, then I'm not okay. [Re: beforethedawn]
#23937832 - 12/18/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think the only time I really enjoy being alone is when I'm writing. Otherwise id never get it done lol id just be chatting all day.
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Mush 4 Brains
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The lonliness has been getting to me lately. The oppressive cold forces me indoors where i feel increasingly isolated. If i drink alcohol while in that state i begin to wig out bad. Also its just fantastic that right now by me its 2pm and will be dark out in less than 3 hours
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Electric Wizard21
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Re: When I'm alone I'm okay, then I'm not okay. [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#23938093 - 12/18/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You know I actually out it down to winter also, but am not 100% convinced yet.
Keeping warm I'm front of the fire with hot chocolate is the way to go. But I too would like company for that
-------------------- I'm sick of all you hypocrites Holding me at bay And I don't need your sympathy To get me through the day Seasons change and so can I Hold on boy, no time to cry Untie these strings, I'm climbing down I won't let them push me away
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demiu5
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Re: When I'm alone I'm okay, then I'm not okay. [Re: weirdguy32]
#23942248 - 12/20/16 01:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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weirdguy32 said: I've been alone for so long now that I don't really TRULY KNOW how I feel anymore. I've had the feeling that I've been "too far gone" for so long that I just told myself that being alone was and IS HOW IT'S gonna be
especially during some recent manic episodes, i've been experiencing this. i've tended, for over a decade, to stay largely isolated, barring occasional social interaction, sometimes forced, sometimes not, though it is getting stronger and coming out in more ways than just being alone with my own time
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Anonymous said: Its human nature, we are not meant to be alone.
i'm also getting sick of people saying stupid shit like this.....
followed by.....
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That much is obvious.
COP-OUT for you not wanting to accept something different as being a natural form as well
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Mush 4 Brains
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Re: When I'm alone I'm okay, then I'm not okay. [Re: demiu5] 1
#23943803 - 12/20/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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But its true we arent meant to be alone. How could you deny that? Literally every thing groundbreaking ever accomplished has been due to human collaboration.
Why do you think people lose their minds after being isolated too long?
We have many basic biological traits related to interaction with each other.
Ive always been a loner. I linger somewhere between intj and intp. I need at least one close friend or two. Imo everyone does, you cant convince me otherwise.
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demiu5
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Re: When I'm alone I'm okay, then I'm not okay. [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#23944687 - 12/20/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mush 4 Brains said: you cant convince me otherwise.
that's a great way to leave yourself open to any kind of dialogue that could have taken place, even though it's not my goal to convince you of anything.
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Mush 4 Brains said: But its true we arent meant to be alone. Literally every thing groundbreaking ever accomplished has been due to human collaboration.
so your evidence for some people not being able to live and function to a successful degree alone is because "every thing groundbreaking has been due to human collaboration?" there's quite a few steps in logic missing there.
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RJ Tubs 202


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Re: When I'm alone I'm okay, then I'm not okay. [Re: beforethedawn]
#23950032 - 12/22/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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beforethedawn said:
I want to connect despite loving solitude.
That's a good example of the many inner conflicts we all face.
The struggle arising from opposing desires.
AKA ambivalence . . .
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Electric Wizard21
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Re: When I'm alone I'm okay, then I'm not okay. [Re: RJ Tubs 202] 1
#23957768 - 12/26/16 07:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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But people definitely prefer company. That is unquestionable. Even people who apparently like being alone are just pretending they aren't hurting inside.
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Rosen_Rot
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OP I know how you feel
I have been mostly alone ever since I got dumped 8 months ago. When I was with her, I had her social circle, I used to go out, have drinks with friends, meet up for coffees...etc Now I don't anymore, she left and they obviously stopped talking to me. I never really had a social circle, always jumped from one group to another and always struggled to make friends or create my own social circle. I don't really talk to anyone from my childhood cause I had no friends to begin with and now that I am at the age of 25 I am starting to feel like it's too late for that. It sucks and no matter what I do I can't seem to shake it off and change things.
I live alone, go to school alone, my weekends are alone and everything else I do in my life, from doing the dishes to mushroom work, completely alone. I have stuff going on for me in my life, my 4x4 allows me to explore new horizons and discover wonderful places, but again, it's all done alone and no matter how beautiful the place is, somehow I always feel a confusing state between ''I am so glad and happy to be in a place like'' and ''I wish I had someone to express this with''
I try as hard as I can to not complain about it. I do have a couple of friends but they are all engaged or generally not healthy to be around with. My bestfriend lives with her bf, so my only interaction with her is through fb msgs, I rarely get a chance to see her, with her work, them buying a house, managing life...etc My other friends are mostly pot heads, one a 35yr old web designer who lives like a pig, creates bad psytrance and smokes a shit ton of pot, my other friends are around my age, big metalheads, love to just stone out till they are baked as a tit. I hang around the latter two the most and even with them I feel alone. They have mastered the art of not giving a shit about life, society...etc while I am here constantly questioning whether if I am just a living sack of shit waiting for time to pass by
I think around this time, loneliness hits the hardest. I found myself thinking a lot about my ex girlfriend, whom btw has probably forgotten I ever existed by now and I found myself getting jealous of her social lite lifestyle, something I desperately need in my life right now but just won't happen and it's not going to happen soon being I've been like this since I was a child. We live in a small country with a small community, you hear things pass around so one way or another I hear about her ventures and it makes me question my life a lot. I can't help this comparison when I am the complete opposite. Even this whole NY shit in a couple of days, people, normal people I guess, alphas, people who are more adaptable to life...etc, they all got something going, parties to get to, drinks to be had, jokes to be laughed, memories to be made, pictures to be taken..... then there's me, myself and I
Everyday I try to find reasons for my situation, reasons to not feel this way, to put things into perspective and keep myself in balance and trying to gain a healthier grip on my mind. People tell you that you need to learn to love yourself, be with yourself, get to know yourself but I wonder when all of this ''by yourself'' time gets too much for a person and I wonder how much is too much.
I don't really have answers but this whole thing, especially at this time, has been wrecking my head for months, my heart feels heavy and sometimes I just want to quit so bad cause I'm so sick of this shit 
I might be depressed, dunno, but I just wanted you to know that you are not at being alone
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Re: When I'm alone I'm okay, then I'm not okay. [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#23958628 - 12/26/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think you have a good answer. I'm sorry to hear about what you have been through. You situation of always being alone almost 100% parallels my situation.
I'm working on it, and for new year travel is on the agenda.
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I am thinking of sleeping through it. All that is on my agenda is having lunch with the family, the rest I really have nothing else to do. Maybe do some assignments and nerd out? Might as well do something good
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Re: When I'm alone I'm okay, then I'm not okay. [Re: Rosen_Rot]
#23958714 - 12/26/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Rosen, what you wrote speaks to me, regarding my life and situation. I have no answers or advice, but just know you're not really 'alone' in your experience.
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demiu5
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Electric Wizard21 said: But people definitely prefer company. That is unquestionable. Even people who apparently like being alone are just pretending they aren't hurting inside.
so....because you say something is so means that anyone else that feels in any other way must be mistaken or pretending?
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Re: When I'm alone I'm okay, then I'm not okay. [Re: demiu5]
#23959616 - 12/27/16 12:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, I'm going to have to say I definately need my 'alone time'. I'm introvert man, being around people is exhausting. Yeah it needs to be done, being around people' and sometimes I enjoy it but part of the reason I'm single right now is I just can't have someone around 24 hours a day. Or atleast anyone I've met yet.
Sometimes I wish there was someone around and there's just nobody..that sucks but, it's just the way I'm wired. It tends to go in cycles, like 'inhale/exhale', 'social/not social'. I'm sure there's a pretty broad spectrum of that mix in everyone. I don't think it's something that can be generalized with any sort of accuracy.
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Re: When I'm alone I'm okay, then I'm not okay. [Re: demiu5]
#23959859 - 12/27/16 06:37 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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demiu5 said:
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Electric Wizard21 said: But people definitely prefer company. That is unquestionable. Even people who apparently like being alone are just pretending they aren't hurting inside.
so....because you say something is so means that anyone else that feels in any other way must be mistaken or pretending?
It's human nature and you can't argue with it.
-------------------- I'm sick of all you hypocrites Holding me at bay And I don't need your sympathy To get me through the day Seasons change and so can I Hold on boy, no time to cry Untie these strings, I'm climbing down I won't let them push me away
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demiu5
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