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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: PsychoKinesiS]
    #23921962 - 12/13/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I agree with the several who subscribe to the theory that you are getting bunk cubes.. Tolerances are gone within a week, two at the absolute worst case scenario.. If you've only indulged 4 times this year there is absolutely no way tolerance is affecting your experience..

You said you're planning a 5 gram trip which will be the most you've ever eaten in a sitting.. 5 grams in itself is not a real massive dose so maybe you're not doing enough? I take 7 grams as a standard dose.. More if I'm feeling brave.. The point is, to take bigger doses infrequently..

IMO it can be only one of three things..

1) Not taking a big enough dose

2) Bunk shrooms

3) It's all in your head


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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: GRAVE]
    #23922456 - 12/13/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

i know i have gotten weak shrooms a lot in the past. i should just go balls deep in a 5 gram trip and see how that turns out. and i know for a fact that the acid isnt an rc. i have had rc's and i know what that shit is like. i tested the acid i took recently which tested positive for lsd indoles. the tabs were from gammagoblin dosed at 100ug. there have been some recognitions going around with people saying gammagoblin's lsd has been underdosed recently. i plan on taking 4-5 tabs on new years eve. hopefully that will give me a full 10-12 hour trip and solve a bit of my problems haha


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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: PsilocybinPrincess]
    #23922908 - 12/13/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

2016 broke the drugs.


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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23923057 - 12/13/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

This thread is the opposite of my goalz.  I need some support in actually following through with trips and not chickening out.

I mean good luck to those of you who are trying replace something-that's-not-working with something-better...just make sure you're careful about your replacements...

I quit smoking weed this year, but now I smoke more cigs, drink more alcohol, take more naps, and masturbate more.


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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: Space Coast Slayer]
    #23923236 - 12/13/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Space Coast Slayer said:
I agree with the several who subscribe to the theory that you are getting bunk cubes.. Tolerances are gone within a week, two at the absolute worst case scenario.. If you've only indulged 4 times this year there is absolutely no way tolerance is affecting your experience..

You said you're planning a 5 gram trip which will be the most you've ever eaten in a sitting.. 5 grams in itself is not a real massive dose so maybe you're not doing enough? I take 7 grams as a standard dose.. More if I'm feeling brave.. The point is, to take bigger doses infrequently..

IMO it can be only one of three things..

1) Not taking a big enough dose

2) Bunk shrooms

3) It's all in your head





I do not think they are bunk shrooms.  Has it happened maybe once or twice in my life, sure, but that's not whats going on here.  How do I know?  Because friends of mine are tripping from the same batch and at less of a dosage?  The difference?...they don't trip very often, maybe once a year when they come visit me or I visit them.

2.75g-3g used to be my SWEET spot and was the absolute perfect dose for me.  The only reason I took that 5g once was because I didn't have much luck in the trips prior to that.  So I also don't think it's me taking too small of dosage. 

What does "all in your head" mean exactly?  I'm not being a wiseass here, I just don't follow what you're trying to say. 

There seems to be quite a few people in this thread saying that they don't think I've really tripped THAT much for this to be a tolerance issue.  Are you sure about that? 
2015:  12-15 mushroom trips and 3 LSD Trips
2016:  4-5 attempted mushroom trips (all unsuccessful), 2 mescaline trips (unsuccessful), and approx 10 LSD trips
TOTAL TRIPS in under 24 Months:  Minimum approx. 30, maximum approx. 35.  Either way, it's way too much.  And if I can ever right this ship, I PROMISE you i will never overindulge ever again. 

And this whole "no tolerance thing" is total BS...again for me and my experiences.  Maybe not for others.  It's gotten to the point now that LSD is not magical, and is just downright BORING if I don't wait at least 8 weeks between trips.  And the longer I can go beyond that 8 week mark, the better my LSD trips are. 

I'm running out of ideas on what's going on here folks which I why I'm planning to abstain from all of it for the foreseeable future.


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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23923636 - 12/13/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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bestpsybeever said:
A side note: As you know for me shrooms seem to be the main drug that has changed, however, DMT has remained exactly as potent, emersive and beautiful as it always has been. I think that this could possibly add to the philosophy that DMT truly is something external, rather than simply chamical acting on your brain. I do not know weather I personally subscribe to this theory, but it's always interesting to talk about. Sorry if that's too off topic, just a thought that popped into my head.





This makes no sense, you have to be getting weak shrooms, I can't buy anything else here. DMT and psilocin are so close together structurally, affect the same receptors, and even feel very similar for that reason. If one doesn't work then neither will the other, there's just no way around that.


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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: krypto2000]
    #23923659 - 12/13/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

The shrooms could not be 100% dehydrated as well.


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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23924630 - 12/13/16 11:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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This makes no sense, you have to be getting weak shrooms, I can't buy anything else here. DMT and psilocin are so close together structurally, affect the same receptors, and even feel very similar for that reason. If one doesn't work then neither will the other, there's just no way around that.





All I can say is, DMT absolutely blows my shroom trips out of the water every time and the shrooms I have had for every shroom trip I've been on have all been from a single isolated strain. Lately I have noticed the strain seems to be getting old. Do you think senescence could be responsible for this lack of tripability? I thought that might be the case, however the trips don't seem to be weaker perse, just different, and a dullness seems to be part of that difffernece.

I will be getting some from a new culture soon, hopefully I get new/better effects from those, of course I will take a break first. Don't want to over do it.

DustyBottoms, are your DMT trips still crazy and beautiful? Despite shroomerz being not so?


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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: bestpsybeever]
    #23925299 - 12/14/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I would think they would lose vegetative vigor if senescence were at play. Has anyone else tried them? Have you tried simply eating more or even changing your environment while tripping?


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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: krypto2000]
    #23928283 - 12/15/16 02:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I would think they would lose vegetative vigor if senescence were at play. Has anyone else tried them? Have you tried simply eating more or even changing your environment while tripping?




They seem to have started fruiting slightly less. More like 4g/cake on the first flush as opposed to 5-7g.
They also tend to contaminate in the fruiting chamber after the first flush, or some of them before the first flush is done. they haven't done this until recently and the only other thing that has changed since then is that rather than being at about 70 degrees in the jars and 60 in the FC, they are now 60 in the jars and 60 in the FC.
I know they should be warmer even than 70 then 60 degrees, but that was the best I could do and it worked fine.


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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: bestpsybeever]
    #23928376 - 12/15/16 05:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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bestpsybeever said:
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This makes no sense, you have to be getting weak shrooms, I can't buy anything else here. DMT and psilocin are so close together structurally, affect the same receptors, and even feel very similar for that reason. If one doesn't work then neither will the other, there's just no way around that.





All I can say is, DMT absolutely blows my shroom trips out of the water every time and the shrooms I have had for every shroom trip I've been on have all been from a single isolated strain. Lately I have noticed the strain seems to be getting old. Do you think senescence could be responsible for this lack of tripability? I thought that might be the case, however the trips don't seem to be weaker perse, just different, and a dullness seems to be part of that difffernece.

I will be getting some from a new culture soon, hopefully I get new/better effects from those, of course I will take a break first. Don't want to over do it.

DustyBottoms, are your DMT trips still crazy and beautiful? Despite shroomerz being not so?





Yes all is well with my DMT trips. I rarely smoke it though but so far I haven't had any issues whatsoever and each trip is enjoyable and special.  Same with L as long as those trips are properly spaced apart.

It's just mushrooms and mescaline that I've had difficulties with. :frown:


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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23937182 - 12/18/16 03:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I do not think they are bunk shrooms.  Has it happened maybe once or twice in my life, sure, but that's not whats going on here.  How do I know?  Because friends of mine are tripping from the same batch and at less of a dosage?  The difference?...they don't trip very often, maybe once a year when they come visit me or I visit them.

2.75g-3g used to be my SWEET spot and was the absolute perfect dose for me.  The only reason I took that 5g once was because I didn't have much luck in the trips prior to that.  So I also don't think it's me taking too small of dosage. 

What does "all in your head" mean exactly?  I'm not being a wiseass here, I just don't follow what you're trying to say. 

There seems to be quite a few people in this thread saying that they don't think I've really tripped THAT much for this to be a tolerance issue.  Are you sure about that? 
2015:  12-15 mushroom trips and 3 LSD Trips
2016:  4-5 attempted mushroom trips (all unsuccessful), 2 mescaline trips (unsuccessful), and approx 10 LSD trips
TOTAL TRIPS in under 24 Months:  Minimum approx. 30, maximum approx. 35.  Either way, it's way too much.  And if I can ever right this ship, I PROMISE you i will never overindulge ever again. 

And this whole "no tolerance thing" is total BS...again for me and my experiences.  Maybe not for others.  It's gotten to the point now that LSD is not magical, and is just downright BORING if I don't wait at least 8 weeks between trips.  And the longer I can go beyond that 8 week mark, the better my LSD trips are. 

I'm running out of ideas on what's going on here folks which I why I'm planning to abstain from all of it for the foreseeable future.




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OK, the mescaline thing threw me.

Since the L is working, but the mush and mescaline are not, it could be a problem with serotonin specifically isolated in receptors 5ht-2a and 5ht-2c. LSD operates on a much more diverse set of receptors, so you will still be able to trip even if there is an issue with those specific ones.

This might lend itself towards a tolerance argument, although an unusually fast onset imo. It could also be pointing to a more complex problem with those receptors.

If you are taking any serotonin modulating substances for depression, that may be contributing to the tripping problem, be it an SSRI or something like St. johns wort. Just a shot in the dark there.

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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: GRAVE]
    #23937486 - 12/18/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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GRAVE said:
Quote:

DustyBottoms said:


I do not think they are bunk shrooms.  Has it happened maybe once or twice in my life, sure, but that's not whats going on here.  How do I know?  Because friends of mine are tripping from the same batch and at less of a dosage?  The difference?...they don't trip very often, maybe once a year when they come visit me or I visit them.

2.75g-3g used to be my SWEET spot and was the absolute perfect dose for me.  The only reason I took that 5g once was because I didn't have much luck in the trips prior to that.  So I also don't think it's me taking too small of dosage. 

What does "all in your head" mean exactly?  I'm not being a wiseass here, I just don't follow what you're trying to say. 

There seems to be quite a few people in this thread saying that they don't think I've really tripped THAT much for this to be a tolerance issue.  Are you sure about that? 
2015:  12-15 mushroom trips and 3 LSD Trips
2016:  4-5 attempted mushroom trips (all unsuccessful), 2 mescaline trips (unsuccessful), and approx 10 LSD trips
TOTAL TRIPS in under 24 Months:  Minimum approx. 30, maximum approx. 35.  Either way, it's way too much.  And if I can ever right this ship, I PROMISE you i will never overindulge ever again. 

And this whole "no tolerance thing" is total BS...again for me and my experiences.  Maybe not for others.  It's gotten to the point now that LSD is not magical, and is just downright BORING if I don't wait at least 8 weeks between trips.  And the longer I can go beyond that 8 week mark, the better my LSD trips are. 

I'm running out of ideas on what's going on here folks which I why I'm planning to abstain from all of it for the foreseeable future.




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OK, the mescaline thing threw me.

Since the L is working, but the mush and mescaline are not, it could be a problem with serotonin specifically isolated in receptors 5ht-2a and 5ht-2c. LSD operates on a much more diverse set of receptors, so you will still be able to trip even if there is an issue with those specific ones.

This might lend itself towards a tolerance argument, although an unusually fast onset imo. It could also be pointing to a more complex problem with those receptors.

If you are taking any serotonin modulating substances for depression, that may be contributing to the tripping problem, be it an SSRI or something like St. johns wort. Just a shot in the dark there.



:thisfuckinguy:





Huh.  I'm not sure if that's what's going on but you do have me wondering now. The only argument I can make against this theory is that I do things, for the most part, that should keep my serotonin at healthy levels.  I eat well and exercise a lot...2 of the biggest things that seem to help with your serotonin.

I'm not on any meds though. The only medication I take from time to time is Xanax


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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: krypto2000]
    #23937514 - 12/18/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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If you feel a compulsion to take psychedelics all the time you're definitely not taking enough. If you dose high enough you will want to not take them for awhile. Are you on any medication or do you just eat them constantly?





I find this to be true. I went so hard with psychs i do not trip at all and have only a couple times in the past 2-3 years.

i wish i could muster up the courage to smoke DMT but when you havent tripped in so long it just doesnt feel right to do it right now. its so intense im not sure if i will ever smoke it again :lol:


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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: unfortunategent]
    #23938978 - 12/18/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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unfortunategent said:

I quit smoking weed this year, but now I smoke more cigs, drink more alcohol, take more naps, and masturbate more.



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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: SizlChest]
    #23939241 - 12/18/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

The theory about the serotonin receptors being to blame seems plausible, except if I am correct, DMT operates on almost exclusively the serotonin receptors, just like shrooms and mescaline, so shouldn't it's effects be affected as well?

Also if dusty bottoms leads a healthy lifestyle, then the slight overuse of psychedelics shouldn't in my opinion cause something as severe as neuron damage or neurotransmitter deficiency. Plus if this were the case, since serotonin is so important for mood regulation among other things, wouldn't he notice a difference in how he feels day to day?

I would be quite surprised if this were the case.


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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: bestpsybeever]
    #23950253 - 12/22/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'm in the early stages of planning a wild camping/hiking trip next May or June with my good buddy.  It'll either be in Moab, UT or the Rocky Mountain National Park and we're planning on straight up roughing it.  No luxuries, just the items we can carry. 

As long as I can hold out and stick with my planned six month break from psychedelics this seems like the PERFECT time and place to get back into it.  I sense the trip would be very spiritual in this environment. 

Maybe having this vacay (and trip) to look forward to will help pass the time...


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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #24029169 - 01/21/17 09:15 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

I was doing some research on MAOIs and was wondering if maybe taking rue or passionflower before a shroom trip would cause a large enough increase in potency to counteract this un-tripablity? Does anybody know enough about MAIOs with shrooms to give any useful info on that?

I'm not suggesting that I plan to do this, or that anybody here should. I am aware that playing with MAOIs can be a slippery slope. Just a thought.


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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: PumpJackTeX]
    #24030175 - 01/22/17 10:42 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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TexXx said:
2016 broke the drugs.




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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #24031383 - 01/22/17 06:11 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

I've gone almost a year besides smoked dmt once in a while.
At the end of 2015 I couldn't trip on anything, LSD, mushrooms, 4-aco-dmt, 4-ho-mipt, ect
Nothing seemed to work. I would just get the physical side effects with nothing happening in my mind at all.

Last year around this time I was able to trip a little bit but it wasn't good enough so I said fuck it I'll wait even longer.


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