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DustyBottoms



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No More Tripping - Support Thread
#23920169 - 12/12/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here we go. Yet another “sobriety” thread on a drug website. Smart, right?
If you’ve read any of my recent posts lately you’ve heard me say that I can’t trip on mushrooms anymore. I’ve also tried pretty high doses of mescaline and couldn’t trip from that either.
The only thing I can trip on these days is LSD. And even those trips need to be spaced, at a minimum, by 8 weeks in order for me to have a magical time.
THE PROBLEM (me thinks): I’ve overindulged with psychs and need to take a nice long break from them in order to “reset” things.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD:To get the psychological support from the shroomery community. I would just ask that you check in with me periodically and make sure I’m actually following through with this. 
MY PLAN: I want to abstain from LSD, Mushrooms, and Mescaline for 6 months….6 months from my last L trip which was Thanksgiving weekend. I’m still going to smoke DMT though from time to time…let’s be real folks. So, ideally, I will not touch any psychs until May/June 2017…Fuck me that seems like forever away. 
THE GOAL: In 6 months, take 5-6g of shrooms and hopefully have a PROPER TRIP. This weight would be the most I’ve ever taken in one sitting.
I’m soooo overdue for a proper mushroom trip. It’s been so long that I almost forgot how they make you feel…
So what do you guys think? Can you help a brother out? Do you think I can pull off 6 months of no psychedelics? I mean we’re not talking a real addiction here (cocaine, meth, alcohol) so you would think I can pull this off right? Although no tripping for 6 months does seem like a pretty daunting task!!!
Godspeed to me
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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: DustyBottoms] 1
#23920182 - 12/12/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you feel a compulsion to take psychedelics all the time you're definitely not taking enough. If you dose high enough you will want to not take them for awhile. Are you on any medication or do you just eat them constantly?
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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: krypto2000]
#23920196 - 12/12/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've eaten shrooms probably 3-4 times in 2016 and the hardest trip was just a mild body buzz and mild visuals...and that was with 5g. Super disappointing.
I have taken LSD probably 8-9 times in 2016 with each trip ranging from 400-600ug...and it delivers pretty much every time. Some were more magical than others, and that was just because I gave it a decent break...typically 8 weeks between trips would do the trick.
My last proper mushroom trip was in October of 2015. Prior to that, I was eating 3-4g every month or so.
I'm still convinced my problems were caused by overindulging. It's either that, or my brain chemistry has changed. Just speculating here but IMO it's the former or the latter...hopefully the former.
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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: DustyBottoms] 2
#23920206 - 12/12/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dude just take a break and stop for a couple years ( or an adequate amount of time - personally I say 5 times a year MAX). Dont count the time either just live... Psychedelic Experiences should be few and far between. Lest they lose their magic Consciousness Expanding Awareness Spectrum Enhancing properties and become simply...drugs with "pleasant sensations and sensory distortion and mind tricks" or less.... a buzz.
As quickly as a fractal breaking into a million pieces of itself using psychedelics can mutate from a tool to just another thing to do, another drug to try, another experience to cling to.
" When can I do psychedelics again?" - when you no longer need to ask the question. Just one strangers Opinion.
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Edited by The Blind Ass (12/12/16 04:35 PM)
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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: The Blind Ass]
#23920212 - 12/12/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah I hear what you're saying but 2 yrs isn't realistic. I'll give it 6 months and hopefully that'll take care of my current plight.
If not, I'll take a longer break on the next one.
BUT, if 6 months does solve my problem, rest assured I will NEVER overindulge with them ever again.
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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: DustyBottoms]
#23920264 - 12/12/16 04:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's not that hard to leave psychedelics for a couple decades - I did it. The only problem is that when you return, you are OLD. But that's okay, you get used to it.
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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: Universe]
#23920310 - 12/12/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tolerance breaks don't work with a set break. Truly you need to forget at all what the trip or drug is like. Just reset your whole view of the drug but remember safety things.
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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: Morel Guy] 1
#23920407 - 12/12/16 05:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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i'm kind of having the same issue as you. but the thing is, i took a little break. in the summer i had a 4 gram mushroom trip after a 3 month break and i was expecting it to be crazy but it only lasted about an hour and that was it /: after that trip i took another 3 month break and did 2 grams in tea which kicked in quickly but only lasted about 2 hours. i had a more recent trip on the weekend with 4 grams total (2 grams tea and 2 grams ate) i experienced what i would call a one gram trip. very disappointing especially when i would trip up to 8 hours before these short trips came around. even my lsd trips have been short. i finally found lsd after 14 months . i have only taken 1 tab 3 times before so this time i took 2. i was expecting amazing intensity, which was received but only for a maximum of two hours. before that, on the 1 tab doses, i would trip fairly hard for a solid 8-10 hours. i wish i could figure out why this is happening. last year i tripped nearly every weekend from july - december and every trip was better than the last. but now i usually end up disappointed with my trips. maybe i have just been getting weak shrooms lately and maybe i oughta take a higher dose of lsd. whatever it is, i hope things clear up soon. best of luck with your psychedelic abstinence
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I think sometimes our trip just isn't meant to be all that. It's like a 10% mind blowing trip ratio. Gotta have the 90% not so impressive due to things beyond us like working shit out.
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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: Morel Guy]
#23920431 - 12/12/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Morel Guy said: I think sometimes our trip just isn't meant to be all that. It's like a 10% mind blowing trip ratio. Gotta have the 90% not so impressive due to things beyond us like working shit out.
Shrooms and/or LSD?
LSD delivers for me every time as long as I break it up by at least 2 months...I think I might just have really good acid though. The Dalai Lama blotter
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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: DustyBottoms]
#23920517 - 12/12/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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DustyBottoms said: I've eaten shrooms probably 3-4 times in 2016 and the hardest trip was just a mild body buzz and mild visuals...and that was with 5g. Super disappointing.
I have taken LSD probably 8-9 times in 2016 with each trip ranging from 400-600ug...and it delivers pretty much every time. Some were more magical than others, and that was just because I gave it a decent break...typically 8 weeks between trips would do the trick.
My last proper mushroom trip was in October of 2015. Prior to that, I was eating 3-4g every month or so.
I'm still convinced my problems were caused by overindulging. It's either that, or my brain chemistry has changed. Just speculating here but IMO it's the former or the latter...hopefully the former.
That really doesn't sound like much at all. I've tripped upward of a couple hundred times in the last decade, probably closer to 150, I really don't know. Sometimes I've tripped many days in a row. I've also taken long breaks, probably some over a year, again I never really kept track. A month apart is not that frequent and tolerance definitely should not be a factor. Are you sure your not taking any medication? You didn't answer that and that can definitely do it. You also could have had weak mushrooms and w/e else, you can't rule that out.
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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: krypto2000]
#23920565 - 12/12/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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krypto2000 said:
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DustyBottoms said: I've eaten shrooms probably 3-4 times in 2016 and the hardest trip was just a mild body buzz and mild visuals...and that was with 5g. Super disappointing.
I have taken LSD probably 8-9 times in 2016 with each trip ranging from 400-600ug...and it delivers pretty much every time. Some were more magical than others, and that was just because I gave it a decent break...typically 8 weeks between trips would do the trick.
My last proper mushroom trip was in October of 2015. Prior to that, I was eating 3-4g every month or so.
I'm still convinced my problems were caused by overindulging. It's either that, or my brain chemistry has changed. Just speculating here but IMO it's the former or the latter...hopefully the former.
That really doesn't sound like much at all. I've tripped upward of a couple hundred times in the last decade, probably closer to 150, I really don't know. Sometimes I've tripped many days in a row. I've also taken long breaks, probably some over a year, again I never really kept track. A month apart is not that frequent and tolerance definitely should not be a factor. Are you sure your not taking any medication? You didn't answer that and that can definitely do it. You also could have had weak mushrooms and w/e else, you can't rule that out.
Well fuck. I don't know what it is then.
No meds on the regular. I do take xanax from time to time but never the day of a trip and I also try to avoid it the day before too
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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: DustyBottoms]
#23920611 - 12/12/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think it's more chemistry. In the 90s and early 2000s I was dosing weekly on average. I had one head ringer and took a break for a good long while. I got right back on the train again. You're not on any meds or anything? When I was on the SSRIs I could eat mushrooms like nobody's business and be fine. Be well Dick
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Not so much of a i wanted to quit so much as it just for no particular reason quit working. It isn't a tolerance thing as it's usually a once or twice a month thing for mental reset. Without warning it just stopped making me trip, I feel the body buzz but that's it for the last 4 tries. Had a buddy try some and they tripped ballsack while i was more or less stone sober. Ended up giving him the rest of my stash as i can always grow more when the time is right. Maybe i'll try again, but for now i'm not going to be attempting a trip for a year or better.
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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: Eywa_devotee]
#23921209 - 12/12/16 10:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's weird.
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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: krypto2000]
#23921321 - 12/12/16 10:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You sure you dont have really week shrooms? 3-4 times in a year is not enough to cause that big of a tolerance IMO.
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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: krypto2000]
#23921448 - 12/13/16 12:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Look. The first step in sobriety and finding happiness is admiring your problem and giving me all your drugs. I will make sure they will never harm you again. Trust me.
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mirraco said: You sure you dont have really week shrooms? 3-4 times in a year is not enough to cause that big of a tolerance IMO.
I vote weak shrooms. Tolerance really does not build that fast at all.
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PsilocybinPrincess said: i'm kind of having the same issue as you. but the thing is, i took a little break. in the summer i had a 4 gram mushroom trip after a 3 month break and i was expecting it to be crazy but it only lasted about an hour and that was it /: after that trip i took another 3 month break and did 2 grams in tea which kicked in quickly but only lasted about 2 hours. i had a more recent trip on the weekend with 4 grams total (2 grams tea and 2 grams ate) i experienced what i would call a one gram trip. very disappointing especially when i would trip up to 8 hours before these short trips came around. even my lsd trips have been short. i finally found lsd after 14 months . i have only taken 1 tab 3 times before so this time i took 2. i was expecting amazing intensity, which was received but only for a maximum of two hours. before that, on the 1 tab doses, i would trip fairly hard for a solid 8-10 hours. i wish i could figure out why this is happening. last year i tripped nearly every weekend from july - december and every trip was better than the last. but now i usually end up disappointed with my trips. maybe i have just been getting weak shrooms lately and maybe i oughta take a higher dose of lsd. whatever it is, i hope things clear up soon. best of luck with your psychedelic abstinence 
Take more mushrooms, and eat em/drink em all at once. 5gs. If you're still not seeing results, get a new dealer, that shit ain't normal.
Also, Sounds like some super low dose acid, or some RC with the type of frequency and history of trips you're talking about. Probably RC if you're legit tripping for only 2 hours. That's just not how acid works in the brain.
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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: GRAVE] 1
#23921585 - 12/13/16 02:31 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey dusty, you posted on my thread yesterday I believe, very similar topic. I wanted to chime in here. Something I have had to deal with is HPPD. A while ago I stumbled across fasting as a cure to HPPD and it is quite effective. The idea (so I'm told) is that your brain reverts back to the way it used to be (ie before HPPD) in an attempt to "remember" where food is. Fasting also has a variety of other health benefits, mental and physical, I'm sure a better explanation of this can be dug up through various research on the topic, but I'm curious as to if this could also make a difference in how one's brain responds to these drugs during the experience, since your brain is supposedly changing back more to how it used to be.
A side note: As you know for me shrooms seem to be the main drug that has changed, however, DMT has remained exactly as potent, emersive and beautiful as it always has been. I think that this could possibly add to the philosophy that DMT truly is something external, rather than simply chamical acting on your brain. I do not know weather I personally subscribe to this theory, but it's always interesting to talk about. Sorry if that's too off topic, just a thought that popped into my head.
Anyway, if you can try fasting after your 6 months. Or if you feel like you're going to break early and trip before the 6 months, maybe try to fast for 2-3+ days, making sure you do it safely, sometime before your trip. I'm not guaranteeing this will work, or even do anything at all in making psychs more magical again, but it's worth a shot. I am currently fasting and I will try to go for 2 days, certainly longer if I can. (I'm doing this mainly to get a handle on my HPPD from my last couple of trips) but I plan on dropping some LSD shortly, and if it is as magical as last time (only 1 month ago) I think I will attribute it at least in part to this fast. I will try to remember to tell you how it goes.
I really hope you can get back to where these drugs should take you. I know how much it sucks to have them simply not effect you as they should. Best if luck in your journeys!
Edit: I literally just came across this the moment after I originally posted this reply. Somebody on reditt was talking about the effects of frequent psychedelic use, specifically LSD, but this goes just the same for any other psych. OP said "You need to take what you learned from your trip and reintegrate yourself back into this plane of existence. If you keep blasting off into space without ever actually touching down again, you start to forget where you were blasting off from to begin with." I think this could certainly have somethign to do with what we're experiencing. Abstinence would certainly help I'm this case, but I think meditation to reintegrate could be even more helpful, again not nessecarily going to help, just an idea, but worth a shot!
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Re: No More Tripping - Support Thread [Re: bestpsybeever]
#23921942 - 12/13/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I used to trip dozens of times per year until I screwed up my head. Now I havent had a microsodose in 3 months or a full dose in nearly a year. Here are my new goals:
1. Get my mental health back to where I can function in society, I'm doing the activities I used to enjoy, and I'm not constantly fearing death every day of my life.
2. Take a further 1 year sobriety break while I do nothing but take up Tai Chi, Meditation, School, etc. and cement my mental health back to childhood levels.
3. Perhaps reintroduce modest tripping a few times per year, but if it jeopardizes my mental health again then forget it.
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