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tripping frequently
    #23919796 - 12/12/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Shrooms are a sacred teacher. But how often should one trip? Is there such thing as tripping to much? or does it depend on the individual and how the person integrates in their lives.


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Re: tripping frequently [Re: moment467]
    #23920110 - 12/12/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

IMO, once a month is fine, though tolerance goes down quickly and you can trip with about 7-10 days in between, if your psyche can handle it. Tolerance builds quickly as well, so you need much more mushrooms the second and third day to achieve the same effects. Would be interesting to experience several days end to end, consuming large quantities of fresh mushroom as some sort of food source. :shrug::takingnotes:

Problem is, when you're in that head space too much, you can sometimes lose touch or grip with reality and have trouble just being grounded in daily life. Unless of course you don't have a job or any serious responsibilities, sure, eat them every day and veg out, you'll just need a bunch of them.

The McKenna brothers have an interesting tale about eating mushrooms daily for about 10 days down in South America, I believe this is when the time wave was thought up.

Mushrooms require some respect. The rabbit hole goes deep and I think many people who experience mushrooms, never get the full potential by only taking low doses of 2 or 3 grams of cubensis. I'm not saying people can't and don't have wonderful experiences, but I think many people use them for recreation and even though that's all fine and dandy, there's much more that can and needs to be learned about these mushrooms and the psilocin/psilocybin compounds, which IMO cannot be done with low doses.

Was looking at the LD50 the other day, just comparing it to other substances, 3.7lbs dry or 37lbs wet is about what you would have to eat to 'over dose', and all I can say is :goodluck: getting all that down.

So, they're not going to hurt you if you want to eat them every day.

But I for one don't recommend it.


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Re: tripping frequently [Re: moment467]
    #23920122 - 12/12/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I trip every 3 days about, I switch up the substances I use and I avoid LSD and 25i-nbome nowadays simply because it builds psychedelic tolerance very quickly. Tryptamines are a lot more forgiving in this reguard.


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Re: tripping frequently [Re: czech]
    #23920243 - 12/12/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I say roughly 5 times a year MAX.  And that is way more than enough for me, anything else is just experience hunting and drug use for intentional kicks and tricks.  Maybe Once at the beginning of the year, once in the middle, and once at the end of the year.  Then your trips have space between them for you to live and see if your really learning or just pretending via taking more drugs to feel and seem more learned and aware


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Re: tripping frequently [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23920252 - 12/12/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Also if your trifeling around with low doses besides your first or second try just to make sure your not allergic and familiar - your wasting your time IMHO.  Jumping in the pool is the only way to swim, getting your feet wet(inadequate/low dose) is NOT swimming.  A real good trip should set you fucking straight as hell on your path in life as soon as you come down to earth again/ come back to your natural state.  Like nothing can hinder you except yourself.  to each his own I suppose.


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Re: tripping frequently [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23920267 - 12/12/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

A good trip( like a lucid dream or sober awakening ) makes you realize you are sharing life with all life and everything in it is temporary in form and reality is like a dream and the mind a mirror and the body a vessel - getting your act together is #1, living a virtuous life is the priority , having relationships filled with love the work, making a rightful living a duty, and learning from your Own self AND others the joy of the mind.  Enjoying the pleasures of the body NOT in excess , the key.  Being only true to self, the way. And no extra amount of tripping or sober thinking can change these truths or take away or add anything to them.  They are without birth or death, are not tainted nor pure.  There is only to fulfill yourself nobly through living nobly.

but what do I know! :heart:


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Re: tripping frequently [Re: HamHead]
    #23920303 - 12/12/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Hi Ham,
Yes, I want to take a proper dose to feel full experience.  However, the potency always varies from what I heard, unless you are taking pure psylocybin from a lab......so hopefully 5-10 grams will get me there. Yes, I heard about the Mckenna's brothers 10 day trip, wowza!.......


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Re: tripping frequently [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23920311 - 12/12/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I know blind,
I really want to take a heroic dose!!!


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Re: tripping frequently [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23920325 - 12/12/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I trip damn near every weekend, about 8-10 grams per dose. But I have found that if you trip exactly 3 days apart that the 2nd trip can get pretty intense. I'm not sure why but it's something I noticed a couple times and did some trial runs and sure shit, that 3rd day always kicks my ass pretty hard. But on the regular it's once a week...


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Re: tripping frequently [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #23920459 - 12/12/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Do you find to 8-10 grams gets you into the other realm....


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Re: tripping frequently [Re: moment467]
    #23920620 - 12/12/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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moment467 said:
Is there such thing as tripping to much?




Oh yes sir I can assure you of that haha. Good thing though is most of the time the mushrooms will let you know if you're overdoing them, not everyone stops at that point however which sucks. Maybe it's no coincidence that a lot of people who partake in psychedelic exploration are more strong minded and even more courageous than the average joe.

Basically there's no set number for everyone because it's all about how mindful you are with your use and how you space your trips out and like you mentioned; how you integrate them. You can trip multiple days in a row and even have relatively responsible binges and be fine, it's all about how you're using it not necessarily how much. The context is the most important. You have to know yourself and what levels and amount of tripping is right for you, not everyone can sip on vials of LSD like Ram Dass and Tim Leary but because they know (at least somewhat) what they were doing they are able to safely take reality reconstructing doses of powerful psychedelics like Acid.

Some of my most sacred and spiritual experiences were when I took mushrooms multiple days in a row, it's like I was already susceptible to it from the day before so I am able to go even deeper the next day and it's harder to forget the lessons learned that way I find.
I also find having the more intense trip on the second day to be the most effective in terms of long term benefits and life changing potential.


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Re: tripping frequently [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23920658 - 12/12/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, education, intent, genetic predisposition, mindset....all take a role..I am thinking 8-10 grams, with a nice lot of time and the watch of my wifey....I should be ok. I think the more people that have a meaningful experience care about the earth so much more.  It is not just some hippey dippey shit, but a real realization that our "Home" is important. We should all stick together...


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Re: tripping frequently [Re: moment467]
    #23920667 - 12/12/16 06:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yes I agree...and have you ever taken that dose before?

8 grams is the most I've taken and it ripped reality apart for me, alien style.


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Re: tripping frequently [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23920676 - 12/12/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

No, not in the shroom delicacy, but LSD.


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Re: tripping frequently [Re: moment467]
    #23920690 - 12/12/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yes there is such a thing as tripping too much. You want to put two weeks between trips at the least for best results, and you don't want to continue doing a 2 week schedule for very long or you'll lose the magic.


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