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wellniceglasses
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How to quit smoking with magic mushrooms
#23919350 - 12/12/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've read the studies but they don't really say much about methodology.
Can I induce a trip related to my health specifically about my smoking habits or how can I do this too?
References, studies, links, opinions, all is welcome.
I smoke about 20 cigs a day, im 27 and I feel my lungs are already beyond repair.
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Switch to vape or a tobacco with less ingredients. A natural or organic tobacco. I bought a pack of cheap cigs years ago. Could not at all finish even half the pack. Worst chemical laden crap in the world!
I smoke the good stuff natural tobacco in a pipe with a filter. It's still a disgusting habit but it isn't as bad as rolling cigs or cigs. I'm not forced to finish a cig and only pay $16 a pound.
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I think it is similar to any personal change due to a psychedelic experience.
When under the influence try and think a lot about why you want to quit, how you will quit and how much better your life will be without it.
I dont know if this is exactly what they do in the trials you hear about but it is how I change various things about my life through phychs.
After a recent lsd bad trip I couldnt stop thinking about how my drug use could actually have really serious consequences (getting caught with it or getting hurt by it), which is something I knew but had never really taken seriously. The next day I just had the biggest urge to get all my drug stuff together and hidden away and take a big break until I felt ready again.
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Re: How to quit smoking with magic mushrooms [Re: Ech0]
#23919399 - 12/12/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, what happened to me is that the craving stopped. I was tripping one day and tried to smoke a cig but it tasted so foul and disgusting. The craving for cigs just went away after that. It's been three years. I don't even think about cigs.
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wellniceglasses
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Re: How to quit smoking with magic mushrooms [Re: Kinshino]
#23919427 - 12/12/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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What were you tripping on and what dosage?
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Re: How to quit smoking with magic mushrooms [Re: ZacksJourney]
#23919449 - 12/12/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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wellniceglasses
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Re: How to quit smoking with magic mushrooms [Re: psilosalvia]
#23919525 - 12/12/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here is the link to research on MAPS website (but not sponsored by maps?), if you are on the area, between 21-65 and smoke a lot you may qualify for the research.
http://www.maps.org/participate/participate-in-research/133-auxiliary-studies-not-sponsored-by-maps/3197-quitting-smoking-with-psilocybin-and-spiritual-support
All it says there is that it is 3 sessions and they provide "structured guidance".
I also recall somewhere reading that john hopkins stop smoking research involved high doses.
It is the "structured I'm interested about, and I also wonder if this is as effective with people who already have some tripping experience - as I can foresee how if its your first time it might be more influenced by such structured guidance.
Edit: Someone in US call that number on link, maybe they will reveal more details for a good cause
Edited by wellniceglasses (12/12/16 01:00 PM)
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wellniceglasses said: What were you tripping on and what dosage?
Shrooms; an eighth.
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wellniceglasses
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Re: How to quit smoking with magic mushrooms [Re: Kinshino]
#23919562 - 12/12/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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wellniceglasses said: What were you tripping on and what dosage?
Shrooms; an eighth.
How many trips did you have before that one?
How many cigs did you smoke per day on avg before said trip?
Were you conscious that you wanted to stop smoking or was it something that just sprouted from the trip without your cognitive influence?
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Try a vape. It works.
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Kinshino
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wellniceglasses said: What were you tripping on and what dosage?
Shrooms; an eighth.
How many trips did you have before that one?
How many cigs did you smoke per day on avg before said trip?
Were you conscious that you wanted to stop smoking or was it something that just sprouted from the trip without your cognitive influence?
I'd say at least 20+
About 10 to a pack a day, depending on how stressed I was
At the time, no. I was on and off them for three years, but I was smoking them during this period. I was coming down from the trip and wanted to smoke. Lit up the cig and it was highly unpleasant. Then the distaste for tobacco followed suit.
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wellniceglasses
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Re: How to quit smoking with magic mushrooms [Re: Kinshino]
#23920156 - 12/12/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can relate in that during or after tripping smoking in general feels augmented, almost like if I hadn't smoked for some time.
Makes sense if you are smoking cigarrettes with a lot of crap on them to feel all the shit and be disgusted.
I smoke rollies with "premium" "smooth" tobacco with not many additions.
So I doubt I can be succesful that way because it's already happened and I kinda liked it. I think for this treatment to be succesful we must include in the algorithm some sort of awareness about its negative effects to make sure it is THE theme as much as possible of the trip. If it is brought up and we can create new brain connections about these associations with the desired ones it would work.
Now the millionaire question, how to induce this?
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wellniceglasses
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So far what I've gathered is these studies do 2-3 "high dose" sessions accompanied with cognitive behavioural theraphy.
Anyone that can give insights into what would be considered an effective "high dose" for guys like rolland griffiths or medical institutions regarding psilocybin?
Also anyone familiar with cognitive behavioural theraphy?
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Re: How to quit smoking with magic mushrooms [Re: Kinshino]
#23922396 - 12/13/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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wellniceglasses said: What were you tripping on and what dosage?
Shrooms; an eighth.
quarter of cubie shrooms the other day had me very aware of the cutting agents in my white girl. Made me dislike coca entirely for the duration of the experience. Last night I had a batch cut with nositol(if that's how it is pronounced) and I could pick it up more than ever before. I think It's all in your head but your head is everything... I can sort of relate OP 
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Another vote for the vape.. I've been off cigs for two weeks rather easily with the vape.. Plus the juices range from 18% to 0% nicotine so you can ween yourself off of nicotine completely
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So far what I've gathered is these studies do 2-3 "high dose" sessions accompanied with cognitive behavioural theraphy.
Anyone that can give insights into what would be considered an effective "high dose" for guys like rolland griffiths or medical institutions regarding psilocybin?
Also anyone familiar with cognitive behavioural theraphy?
a high dose of cubes would be anywhere from 3.5 to 5 grams.
CBT is the most common form of psychotherapy, the one you usually see in the movies where the doctor is asking people about their childhood and such (based on idea of the subconscious mind). From what I understand the psychologist asks the patient question in order to understand how their thought processes function (targeting negative ones) and attempting to change them by teaching the patient to think new and improved, more "positive" thoughts. It can also target certain life traumas which cause negative thoughts and attempt to improve the way in which the patient thinks.
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If a simple mushroom trip isn't enough for you to want to quit you may have bigger problems.
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wellniceglasses
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AuroraBorealis88 said: If a simple mushroom trip isn't enough for you to want to quit you may have bigger problems.
Ehm.. a single mushroom trip did make me WANT to quit.
Theres a leap between wanting and quitting.
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ZacksJourney
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It made me stop watching porn
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Re: How to quit smoking with magic mushrooms [Re: ZacksJourney]
#23925449 - 12/14/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey, OP I had success quitting unepectedly twenty years ago on a dose of 23 gram's of dried cubes. These were outdoor cubes dried in the sun and not 1/2 as potent as cultivated.
Anyway it was toward the end of the trip and as I put out a cigarette I was overcome with disgust and something clicked and I just quit with no withdrawal. Amazing how this happens, back then I took psychedelics recklessly but was fortunate enough to benefit from tripping.
By the way 23 gram's took me to hell. I don't think more than 5 gram's are needed to have that moment to flip the switch off. It's literally like a switch with the psilocybin. Good Luck
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Re: How to quit smoking with magic mushrooms [Re: Ech0]
#23930637 - 12/15/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Intense video, but I will be trying this out consciously soon and report back on results.
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