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Re: Have you noticed? More people seem to be "waking up" now? [Re: CrackingTheCode]
    #23930011 - 12/15/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I dont think people are more or less evolved now than 1000 years ago, our values as a society have advanced in great ways but we've also fallen behind in areas. Its a balance I think, which is part of the inherent nature of Samsara, but this is just idle thought, Im not firm in this opinion.


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Re: Have you noticed? More people seem to be "waking up" now? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23930462 - 12/15/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'm with you, I see precious little evidence that the masses are any more "awakened" than they ever were. If anything things are worse than they were thirty years ago. It seems that people of every time period feel they're on the cusp of some event. It's rarely true.


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Re: Have you noticed? More people seem to be "waking up" now? [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #23930513 - 12/15/16 06:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I think that feeling of impending change is part of our personal drive to live and be fulfilled

Christians have their idea of impending apocalyptic rapture, but Ive always interpreted their Revelations book as reflecting the personal experience of death and trancendence. Their messiah said that the kingdom of heaven is within, but theyre often looking to change the world without rather than accepting that.

Its the same everywhere


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Re: Have you noticed? More people seem to be "waking up" now? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23930523 - 12/15/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Agreed.


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Re: Have you noticed? More people seem to be "waking up" now? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23931123 - 12/15/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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2020 will be the year we all unite. A grand unifying act.





Awesome, so you can point me to the aisle where I might purchase 2 gallons of snakeoil?


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Re: Have you noticed? More people seem to be "waking up" now? [Re: CrackingTheCode]
    #23931737 - 12/16/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yes and no... never before (that we know of) has information been so readily available. A lot of people can now access information that was previously only for initiates, or people that had access and the time to go to libraries, higher education etc. We can now also encounter a lot more opinions on what's going on in the world, which can help or hinder our own understanding of what's going on, depending on what we believe.

Whether more people are actually waking up... I think to some degree we are, most don't wake up when life is peachy so the increasing issues in the world forces some of us to wake up, but for some the worse things become the more they bury their head in the sand. It's also a common theme that each generation thinks 'more people than ever are now waking up', which is probably true, as we evolve we become more intelligent; but has anyone yet seen a Golden Age appear in their lifetime?

An important thing in my opinion is to not allow ourselves to postpone our own awakening, waiting for the idea of a mass global awakening. With 2012 some believed that it would happen, the collective consciousness would reach some tipping point where there would be a global awakening or singularity. It's a paradox that we wake up from the individual, but also as an individual. So people are always waking up, but don't wait for, or count on people waking up.



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Re: Have you noticed? More people seem to be "waking up" now? [Re: Satya]
    #23931763 - 12/16/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Being awake isn't all that great.  Everyone wakes up to different understandings.  People interpret things differently.  Not everyone agrees on answers and what is hope. 

Computers definitely do expose people and empower people more.  Some people take advantage of that and do bad things.  There is always more to be aware of.

What is it to be awake?


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Re: Have you noticed? More people seem to be "waking up" now? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23931783 - 12/16/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I've wondered what exactly it means to be "awake" or enlightened.

Does it just mean awareness of one's own divinity? The divinity within all of man?

Does it mean awareness of oneness?

Does it mean acceptance that one is God and at the same time, so is everyone else?


The reason I say it seems like more and more people are waking up is that I've taken to talking about this subject with people, ranging from friends and clients to random strangers. Last week I was on vacation in Mexico and somehow started up this friendly conversation with an Indian business man (An American, but Hindu).

I said something about how "And then you realize, the Hindus were right!" - referring to everyone's "real" identity as being God. He smiled and said "mmmhmmmm".

The "other" reason is just my own experience. My first trip reminded me who I am and it had this "had to happen" vibe about it.


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Re: Have you noticed? More people seem to be "waking up" now? [Re: CrackingTheCode]
    #23931878 - 12/16/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

All these things mean different things to anybody.  The world does not get along as a whole.  Awakening to that is a reality any kid can see.  May not understand but it's obvious.  Learning and awakening to your squishy vulnerable biology and how to survive is important.

Nobody is God.  We are animals.  Awaken to that.


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Re: Have you noticed? More people seem to be "waking up" now? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23931969 - 12/16/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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What is it to be awake?




Maybe it's as simple as the usual definition of the word?

To no longer be sleeping; to become conscious/aware of a present reality.

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Morel Guy said:Everyone wakes up to different understandings.




I think there is different understandings, and that all understandings from scientific to spiritual could be called an awakening of sorts.

Whatever we're trying to understand, whether it be the physical appearance of the universe or it's source, it's ourselves that we're understanding; it's all self-knowledge.
Knowledge usually appears to move from ignorance, to knowledge - you don't know, and then you know. Which I think is akin to lucid-dreaming or waking up from a sleep, in which you can appear to lose yourself in appearances.

So I think awakening is what all things move towards - from ignorance of one's nature, to self-awareness.
The most common themes I've seen the term awakening refer to, are either the social awakening to a 'conspiracy' for want of a better term, or the awakening to a spiritual reality.

Alongside awakening there's a lot of trading old beliefs for new beliefs, in the strictest sense I think all belief is in someway contrary to what it means to be awake, at least that's what I believe. (:


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Re: Have you noticed? More people seem to be "waking up" now? [Re: Satya]
    #23931998 - 12/16/16 10:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Sleep cycles.  I think we usually get overly excited about new info.


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Re: Have you noticed? More people seem to be "waking up" now? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23932652 - 12/16/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Have you noticed? More people seem to be "waking up" now? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23934314 - 12/17/16 02:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

They are waking up but I don't think they're having a real awakening. A real awakening is realizing we live in a dream world much like the matrix, and that we can create reality around us if we truly wake up from it. Problem is the people are asleep and letting the dream play itself out in whatever horrible way it will.


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Re: Have you noticed? More people seem to be "waking up" now? [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #23934499 - 12/17/16 04:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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They are waking up but I don't think they're having a real awakening. A real awakening is realizing we live in a dream world much like the matrix, and that we can create reality around us if we truly wake up from it. Problem is the people are asleep and letting the dream play itself out in whatever horrible way it will.




We live in a nightmare world.  The dream is gone.

Our New World.



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Re: Have you noticed? More people seem to be "waking up" now? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23935373 - 12/17/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

cheer up :nyan:

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Re: Have you noticed? More people seem to be "waking up" now? [Re: CrackingTheCode]
    #23935601 - 12/17/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Is it just me, or does the world seem to be going through a major shift right now? Have you noticed more people seem to be "waking up" or at least on their way towards realization of God/Humanity are really just two sides of the SAME coin?


We see this realization taking place globally in the form of popular uprising. Some violent (think Syria/ISIS) and others relatively peaceful (think Brexit and Trump). But what they all have in common is a rejection of "the establishment" and the people are receding consent to be ruled by our rulers.


My whole life I've felt that I have some "role to play" in coming events but just never knew what they were. Now that I am in my 30s, established in life and very much "awake", I'm starting to see what my purpose is.


I had a strong trip at the end of July this year where I was "told" that my future (purpose) lies in politics and the reason I had been given "all of this" was to lay the foundation to facilitate that transition. Since then, the people who I will need to help me seem to appearing in my life.

But that's another story. :smile:

So, do you think the world is slowly waking up at an accelerated pace?

Definitely feels like we're on the cusp of the next big "shift" in the story/advancement of humanity, huh?




There definitely is a flowering of consciousness. The recent turn of events in anti establishment and a president elect trump is a perfect example as is Brexit. The fallout being the referendum and recounts pushed are examples of the opposition. It is just the beginning.

In the coming decades, children out of wedlock, multiple kid different baby daddy, the adversity to competition, and the parade of stupidity will end. There is more social engineering now then ever before. People are very easily brain washed. Its the beginning of the process. We as a species have much further to go.

A series of events are a good sign for change but, again, there is still a lot more to happen. A good portion of the population are still excited by propaganda like "change" or victimhood. A lot of the systems in place posing to fight for a cause are the same systems marching individuals off the cliff. People are beginning to wake up very slowly but surely.


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Re: Have you noticed? More people seem to be "waking up" now? [Re: CrackingTheCode]
    #23937800 - 12/18/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Sometimes it's not fun to be awakened and unable to do much about it.  As advanced as humans are, we seem to be powerless.  At least very little power for as much as we are capable of imagining.


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Re: Have you noticed? More people seem to be "waking up" now? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23937842 - 12/18/16 12:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

That's a really good point, Morel. Fate has a strong hand in keeping our reach small, but privately we can dream about whatever we want. A small few have some power, and the rest of us don't seem to have much at all, ultimately. That's reality for you.


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Re: Have you noticed? More people seem to be "waking up" now? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23937848 - 12/18/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Sometimes it's not fun to be awakened and unable to do much about it.  As advanced as humans are, we seem to be powerless.  At least very little power for as much as we are capable of imagining.




That's why the guy in the matrix wanted to go back to his dream world with the juicy steak that didn't exist.


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Re: Have you noticed? More people seem to be "waking up" now? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23939155 - 12/18/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Sometimes it's not fun to be awakened and unable to do much about it.  As advanced as humans are, we seem to be powerless.  At least very little power for as much as we are capable of imagining.




My definition of being awakened would include transcending corporal limitations, otherwise one is just more or less aware of some mundane phenomena


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