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Returning cakes to the jar?
    #23918666 - 12/12/16 06:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I saw on YouTube where one of the "let's grow mushrooms" guys was saying that he's had success with the following:
- Birth colonized cake
- Dunk & roll
- return cake to jar
- place jar in fruiting chamber

He said he has better luck with keeping the cakes hydrated this way.

Has anyone here tried this and, if so, what sort of results did you get?

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Re: Returning cakes to the jar? [Re: JumboJimbo]
    #23918734 - 12/12/16 07:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm doing some bottle tek and wondered about doing something similar. My first couple were side pinning heavily, so I dumped them and treating them like cakes.

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Re: Returning cakes to the jar? [Re: JumboJimbo]
    #23918758 - 12/12/16 07:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That kinda seems like a pain in the ass, unless you wait until mycelium has grabbed onto your vermiculite...I assume you'd have to wait or your verm would just fall off

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Re: Returning cakes to the jar? [Re: Leftfield420]
    #23918839 - 12/12/16 08:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I find that when I dunk cakes, they swell. Won't go back in jar. Plus, there is an added layer of verm.

I have left cakes in jar and added water to the top, but then they swell tight and you have to eventually cut them up to get them out.

Then you might have side pinning, etc.

I wouldn't suggest it.


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Re: Returning cakes to the jar? [Re: JumboJimbo]
    #23919104 - 12/12/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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JumboJimbo said:
I saw on YouTube where one of the "let's grow mushrooms" guys was saying that he's had success with the following:
- Birth colonized cake
- Dunk & roll
- return cake to jar
- place jar in fruiting chamber

He said he has better luck with keeping the cakes hydrated this way.

Has anyone here tried this and, if so, what sort of results did you get?




What you describe is called "top fruiting" and it's a very common practice. The only thing that didn't jibe in the OP was the "roll".

You only coat the entire cake in vermiculite if you plan on fruiting it in a FC, to protect the cake from drying out so fast, to provide a nice microclimate on the surface and to act as a pinning platform.

But if you plan to top fruit the cake in the jar, you'll obviously want your mushrooms to grow on the surface only, and you promote this by improving the conditions on the surface, which can be done by simply adding a casing layer of plain vermiculite after the dunk.

If you roll the entire cake and put it back in the jar (a bigger one than the original, mind you), chances are you'll see growth all over the place, not only on the surface.

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