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Re: Shrooms aren't the same anymore [Re: bestpsybeever]
    #23924666 - 12/13/16 11:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

When I trip it sometimes feels so good I want to double my dose and do it again the next day, but I know thats not how to do it. I trip once every month/couple of months. Seems like a good frequency, any more than that and I start to feel bad.


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Re: Shrooms aren't the same anymore [Re: bestpsybeever]
    #23924677 - 12/13/16 11:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I absolutely agree with the closeness you feel to the shrooms when they're your babies that you nurish and take care of until you get to experience them. The strain I've been getting my shrooms from has been showing signs of aging, as I said earlier. Should I start working on getting them from a new multispore->isolated strain? Have you heard of senescence causing shrooms to loose potency in such a way that they give weird trips like this?




Well heck that's it then.  I've grown a lot over many years and the sad time is when the strain starts to fade but for whatever reason you haven't got a vigorous stored version of it.  Get to work then, either isolate or if you have good luck pick what looks best from the plates.

I have DEFINITELY had strain degradation cause weird trips.  It takes the fresh genetics firing on all cylinders to produce the best trips IME.

I'm gonna start up some PE again - I have a syringe (that was total contam but perhaps it'll work injected into the agar or a second layer added on top) but I also have a stored swab (that's a mild isolate in my sig there from it growing, the swab came from the pictured fruits) that I'll use.  If that fails I've got a PF Classic freebie syringe and some other assorted goodies sitting around.

But yeah, get to it, nothing at all to lose and a lot to gain.  :thumbup:


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Re: Shrooms aren't the same anymore [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23928323 - 12/15/16 03:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Well heck that's it then.  I've grown a lot over many years and the sad time is when the strain starts to fade but for whatever reason you haven't got a vigorous stored version of it.  Get to work then, either isolate or if you have good luck pick what looks best from the plates.

I have DEFINITELY had strain degradation cause weird trips.  It takes the fresh genetics firing on all cylinders to produce the best trips IME.

I'm gonna start up some PE again - I have a syringe (that was total contam but perhaps it'll work injected into the agar or a second layer added on top) but I also have a stored swab (that's a mild isolate in my sig there from it growing, the swab came from the pictured fruits) that I'll use.  If that fails I've got a PF Classic freebie syringe and some other assorted goodies sitting around.

But yeah, get to it, nothing at all to lose and a lot to gain. 





That's great to hear. I have heard through the grape vine that my shrooms seem to be quite enjoyable, but around here, average shrooms are total crap, and my (what I would consider average) GT's are consistently "the best shrooms I've ever had" as I have heard more times than i can recall. So somebody who is used to an eighth feeling like 0.8g of my shrooms when they were at their best, would easily be able to think that my "dull" trip is incredible since it is still better than what they would be used to.

Looks like a new strain will be commencing shortly. I don't have the knowledge to make a spore print or syringe properly, I know there are easy teks, but I still have the original spore syringe about half full. Has been at room temp for about 16 months. do you think this would still be able to work?

I'll probably try it either way.

BTW I do have a master culture... kind of. I managed to keep this strain alive for roughly 16 months by keeping a master in the fridge, but I only had a small container, and every time it ran out I would simply take some mycelium from a fully colonized cake and put that in the container (yes a chunk of colonized cake was my "master") which is why it is now old and feeble.

I have always been interested in penis envy since I first heard the name (then I found out it was a type of cube :wink: ) but seriously, I was excited when I found out about a cube that was generally considered as more potent than the rest and always wanted to get some spores but have had trouble finding a good north American vendor that sells them.

Also I grow mainly on cakes, a big bulk substrate tends to be too prone to contam in my house. I think I recall reading something about pe not doing so weel on cakes. Is this true, and if so is the  type of pe which does better on cakes than others (albino, etc.)

I would be glad to know that it's just my shrooms which are bunk and not my head. I do recall as I've tripped on these over the last year that my first experience felt different than the rest, it was beautiful and colorful, mainly with a beautiful bright blue halo to things, and since then my trips have changed. I always thought it was a consequence of becoming familiar with the shroom. Not to say my trips won't be different than that first one, once I get a new strain going, our trips do change as we do. I would just be excited if I could get a glimmering reminder of what those first few trips felt like visually.

If I get the chance to do some LSD soon, and it is colorful and magical like the last time, with the addition that DMT is colorful and beautiful, do you think it would be pretty safe to say that it's just my shrooms that are bunk? considering all of these act in very similar ways on the brain? especially DMT and psilocin.


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Re: Shrooms aren't the same anymore [Re: bestpsybeever]
    #23928386 - 12/15/16 05:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't think I've been missing the point of psychedelics. I have always planned out my trips, and tried to figure out what I want to accomplish during a trip before ever taking the drug. I've made more progress in my personal growth in this last 2 months than I had in the previous year.

I'm not saying I don't need a break, I think the shroom has made that clear. I just don't think tripping often has impacted my day to day life negatively as is often the case with overindulgence of these drugs. I find myself more motivated, happier, less stressed, and less tired than before this crazy little bender, for which I am grateful.

I hope you understand that I am not ignorantely taking these drugs to get high. In fact it's quite the opposite. I'm just so intrigued by the altered states of consciousness, and what can be learned there, and how I can heal and grow, that I wanted to keep exploring. Furthermore I am fortunate enough to have not had enough conflict in my life to feel the need to take a big break between trips. Everything was more or less fine in my life going in, so coming back out had been more of a gentle release back to reality more than a smack down of new realizations which would require time to reintegrate.

I hope you guys understand. It was a bit excessive by some's standards, but I am very grateful for the experience, and now it's time to move on, and come back for more when I feel the call.





These statements above really resonate with me OP as I am going through the same thing as I mentioned earlier in this thread. 

I also take my trips very seriously and never just trip on a whim.  Each and every one of them was meticulously planned out and they all had a purpose.  It was never to just "get high."

I think I ultimately overindulged but the only price i paid for this was that I can no longer trip.  It did affect my life but in a very positive way.  Honestly, 2016 was one of the happiest and most productive years of my life.  I think psychedelics played a massive part in this.

So OP, what's your plan?  To take a break from psychedelics for awhile?  If so, are you staying away from all of them and for how long?


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Re: Shrooms aren't the same anymore [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23928509 - 12/15/16 07:28 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I took a break for 4 years.  And I get most people wont be motivated or disciplined enough to do something like that but it seriously makes all the difference between actual ego death and just a super awesome spiritual / introspective / OEV/CEV trip.

Jumping into a 7 gram dose after those years made for something else entirely ie. snatching away the man or the surroundings there was not a trace left behind.

Im taking a 6 month break now.  Regular life is on fire too.:thumbup:


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Re: Shrooms aren't the same anymore [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23929435 - 12/15/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I have an LSD trip half planned for sometime in the next few weeks. I also want to start a new strain from multispore and perhaps sometime in Feb I will try those if they are ready by then. Aside from those, I will probably keep my psychedelic use limited to some DMT every once in a while. Sounds like the smartest thing to do (but I have still yet to break through on DMT and want to get that far with it sometime when the stars align. Hopefully soon.) I also "suffer" from HPPD (I try to look at it as a positive, like "hey free trip") and recently got a prescription for Adderall which seems to drastically exacerbate the symptoms temporarily. (But in a smooth enjoyable way. As long as they dont get permanently much worse I will be happy to live with them.) I know the HPPD will virtually dissapear within 3 momths if left unadgetated, or within a few days if I fast, but will come back if I trip, increasing intensity with increasing frequency of my trips. So I think it's best to slow down for a bit, see how things go. If everything is better by mid summer, during music festival time, I'll probably cut loose a little again, although will likely keep the trips less frequent/numorus than last time.


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Re: Shrooms aren't the same anymore [Re: bestpsybeever]
    #23929793 - 12/15/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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bestpsybeever said:
Looks like a new strain will be commencing shortly. I don't have the knowledge to make a spore print or syringe properly, I know there are easy teks, but I still have the original spore syringe about half full. Has been at room temp for about 16 months. do you think this would still be able to work?




Should be OK.  Spores in pure water stay good a very long time IME, but you'll know when you try it.  I usually refrigerate syringes though, as well as spore prints.  SporeWorks sells PE which is where I've gotten mine - some contams though and this last time I didn't bother to return it.  :tongue:

Yeah, if you don't do masters correctly you end up with a aged strain.  :shrug:


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Re: Shrooms aren't the same anymore [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23930550 - 12/15/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, since my grow has always been small scale I never bothered to do agar and work really hard to get the perfect strain. I always thought it would be fun though, would like to do that sometime in the future.

I'll check out spore works. Is there a type of pe that is considered better than others?


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Re: Shrooms aren't the same anymore [Re: bestpsybeever]
    #23930792 - 12/15/16 08:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Some people like the crosses but the original has worked well for me.  PEU (uncut) is really handsome though:



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