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OfflineMikeTesserect
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Kratom alternatives
    #23915452 - 12/11/16 08:12 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Has anyone here tried Akuamma or anything here for a kratom high?


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: MikeTesserect]
    #23916053 - 12/11/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

nah but i've been very interested in that one.

Personally i hope it stays realatively out of the spotlight. it sounds promising and since its not popular like kratom it should be cheap.

good luck in your search. if there is an alternative, the one you named seems most promising IMO


kratom is still legal too btw. In most states


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: MikeTesserect]
    #23916081 - 12/11/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Someone was posting about akuamma seeds in another forum, perhaps search that shit and see what's up, I have not tried them though.


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: Lucis]
    #23916086 - 12/11/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Dam, looks promising.


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: MikeTesserect] * 2
    #23916246 - 12/11/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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MikeTesserect said:
Has anyone here tried Akuamma or anything here for a kratom high?




I hear heroin replaces kratom.


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: Apostle]
    #23918892 - 12/12/16 08:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Akuamma is a popular one. It is a kratom analog. It is supposed to work for pain and a sedative but I don't know if the high is the same. Im not too optimistic kratom will stay legal, so it is always there. I didn't see any experiences on the net.


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: MikeTesserect]
    #23918936 - 12/12/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I wish there was more info on that. But I expect if kratom does become illegal there will be more anecdotal reports on it.


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23919126 - 12/12/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Kava is a good alternate the only thing is it is a reverse tolerance so the more you take the faster you will feel it


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: MikeTesserect] * 1
    #23919133 - 12/12/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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MikeTesserect said:
Akuamma is a popular one. It is a kratom analog.



THat doesn't sound right at all.

Kratom isn't even a chemical


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: Apostle]
    #23919213 - 12/12/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Compared to classic opiods, Kratom's already kind of weaksauce.  I hope an "alternative" option to it isn't a still-weaker opiod that we end up moving to when they finally ban Kratom.


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: Apostle]
    #23919336 - 12/12/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Apostle said:
Quote:

MikeTesserect said:
Akuamma is a popular one. It is a kratom analog.



THat doesn't sound right at all.

Kratom isn't even a chemical



This is laughable :lol:

Everything is a chemical, dude. Mytragynine, the alkaloidal component
of Kratom that gets you high, and other related alkaloids in kratom are
in fact chemicals.

And believe it or not, they can create analogues of these chemicals
if they figured out a way to. Whether or not they actually have one, I don't know.


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23919362 - 12/12/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Dude Kratom isn't a chemical.  It's composed of chemicals, but is itself not a chemical.  Just like you are not a chemical, though you are composed of chemicals.  You even argued this same point in your post trying to refute Apostle's claim, which really just bolstered it.


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: natedawgnow] * 2
    #23919368 - 12/12/16 12:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Let me stop your laughter for just a moment.

I know the alkaloids are chemicals. Obviously.

I also know that analogues of those chemicals can be created too, i never denied that
i still don't think the statement of Akuamma being a Kratom analogue is correct.


is kratom really a chemical?  mind you that is different from containing chemicals.

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A chemical substance is a form of matter that has constant chemical composition and characteristic properties.[1] It cannot be separated into components by physical separation methods,





I'm pretty sure Kratom can in fact be separated into components by physical seperation IE extracts.


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: abltsandwich]
    #23919387 - 12/12/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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abltsandwich said:
Dude Kratom isn't a chemical.  It's composed of chemicals, but is itself not a chemical.  Just like you are not a chemical, though you are composed of chemicals.  You even argued this same point in your post trying to refute Apostle's claim, which really just bolstered it.



I literally just said the alkaloids in kratom are chemicals. Where is
your confusion? I am simply pointing out that analogues can be made and
probably already are made.

I said everything is chemicals because it's true. We are composed of
chemicals and controlled by chemical reactions. Everything that makes
you who you are and what makes kratom what it is due to chemicals and
their reactions.


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23919392 - 12/12/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

natedawgnow said:
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abltsandwich said:
Dude Kratom isn't a chemical.  It's composed of chemicals, but is itself not a chemical.  Just like you are not a chemical, though you are composed of chemicals.  You even argued this same point in your post trying to refute Apostle's claim, which really just bolstered it.



I literally just said the alkaloids in kratom are chemicals. Where is
your confusion? I am simply pointing out that analogues can be made and
probably already are made.

I said everything is chemicals because it's true. We are composed of
chemicals and controlled by chemical reactions. Everything that makes
you who you are and what makes kratom what it is due to chemicals and
their reactions.




No, wrong.  You said

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natedawgnow said:
Everything is a chemical




Which is very different than "everything is chemicals"

EDIT:  I just realized you're the guy that posted patently false information in a thread a week or two ago, while simultaneously saying I need to "Read a book" because I don't know shit.
Then he ninja edited it when I called him out.
Yeah dude you should like, read a book on chemicals before you go spouting off.


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: abltsandwich]
    #23919398 - 12/12/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

natedawgnow said:

I literally just said the alkaloids in kratom are chemicals. Where is
your confusion? ..





Probably this part.

Quote:

natedawgnow said:

This is laughable :lol:

Everything is a chemical, dude.




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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: Apostle]
    #23919417 - 12/12/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Wow you guys are picky :lol:

I concede, you guys got me!


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23919426 - 12/12/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

The Shroomery as a community has to be involved in harm reduction.  People use the internet for research on drugs they may choose to use, and the posts on this forum in threads like these are eventually archived in the database, and are invaluable pieces of info.  But only if the information is correct, and the wrong information is weeded out.
On the subject of drug facts and harm reduction, picky is necessary.


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23919429 - 12/12/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You got yourself but i accept your concession nonetheless.


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: Apostle]
    #23919437 - 12/12/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I don't believe I posted any incorrect info; Anyone with a brain stem
would know exactly what was meant by my statement. I have just come to
realize that a good majority of the pub is minus a brainstem :lol:


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23919444 - 12/12/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, that's it.  We know what we're talking about and we correct the wrong shit you post, and we're the ones lacking brain stems.  Right. I see how that works, because it makes about as much sense as the rest of the shit you post. (That's sarcasm, your shitposts don't make much sense)


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23919455 - 12/12/16 12:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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natedawgnow said:
I don't believe I posted any incorrect info



I believe you.


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Re: Kratom alternatives [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23919465 - 12/12/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Nate, Im sorry...

...But, what you said was not obvious to anyone that you didn't literally mean what you said. It was a completely fallacious statement.

Im with the peanut gallery and the brain-stems.

I also like what NK said "herion" LOL first thing that popped into my head because why not?

On a more serious note, I can't think of any as Kratom and its constituents tends to be the alternative to harder opiates. Kava maybe, and other similar alkaloid bearing roots/herbs/plants.


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