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Re: Bernie Sanders Perfectly DEBUNKS Trumps Carrier Deal! [Re: Webster10] 1
#23915802 - 12/11/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well he clearly just backed out of one 
And those cabinet picks 
I'm not here to just ruthlessly tear him apart at every turn, I - as Bernie said - upon election was willing to give him a chance and try and keep the focus on his campaign promises that would be good for the country... i.e. draining the swamp (doesn't look like its going to happen at all), Using leverage against businesses that doesn't require a bribery (nope... clearly going for bribes), building up infrastructure, ending regime change tactics, non-interventionism, building infrastructure...
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Re: Bernie Sanders Perfectly DEBUNKS Trumps Carrier Deal! [Re: Webster10]
#23915824 - 12/11/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Slightly less of one of those that allows thinking that bringing back a couple hundreds jobs at the expense of millions of dollars of taxpayers money going right into billionaire corporate pockets is "bringing back jobs". Plus laying off over 3x that many workers in October puts him at a deficit in that regard, by my calculations.
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Re: Bernie Sanders Perfectly DEBUNKS Trumps Carrier Deal! [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
#23915864 - 12/11/16 10:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You're so misinformed, it's legitimately sad.
What about the 60,000 new pledged jobs that have nothing to do with subsidies, that by admission of the heads of the companies who plan to invest and create those jobs, said they are only doing so because of trump?
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Re: Bernie Sanders Perfectly DEBUNKS Trumps Carrier Deal! [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23915876 - 12/11/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Slightly less of one of those that allows thinking that bringing back a couple hundreds jobs at the expense of millions of dollars of taxpayers money going right into billionaire corporate pockets is "bringing back jobs". Plus laying off over 3x that many workers in October puts him at a deficit in that regard, by my calculations.
I hate to break the news, but keeping high quality jobs in the US is even more important than tax revenue at this point.
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Re: Bernie Sanders Perfectly DEBUNKS Trumps Carrier Deal! [Re: qman] 3
#23915950 - 12/11/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Slightly less of one of those that allows thinking that bringing back a couple hundreds jobs at the expense of millions of dollars of taxpayers money going right into billionaire corporate pockets is "bringing back jobs". Plus laying off over 3x that many workers in October puts him at a deficit in that regard, by my calculations.
I hate to break the news, but keeping high quality jobs in the US is even more important than tax revenue at this point.
Must've been why he appointed a fast food CEO to the labor secretary right?
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Re: Bernie Sanders Perfectly DEBUNKS Trumps Carrier Deal! [Re: twighead] 1
#23916004 - 12/11/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Slightly less of one of those that allows thinking that bringing back a couple hundreds jobs at the expense of millions of dollars of taxpayers money going right into billionaire corporate pockets is "bringing back jobs". Plus laying off over 3x that many workers in October puts him at a deficit in that regard, by my calculations.
I hate to break the news, but keeping high quality jobs in the US is even more important than tax revenue at this point.
Must've been why he appointed a fast food CEO to the labor secretary right? 
I never heard of so much pissing and moaning over the idea of keeping jobs inside of the nation, unreal.
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Re: Bernie Sanders Perfectly DEBUNKS Trumps Carrier Deal! [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#23916033 - 12/11/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: bernie is right in the fact that outsourcing jobs should result in a loss of federal contracts
Yup, this is the thing I agreed with most. Bernie also makes it out like Trump gave the tax cuts, but it the tax cuts were at the State level, not Federal.
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Re: Bernie Sanders Perfectly DEBUNKS Trumps Carrier Deal! [Re: daytripper05]
#23916115 - 12/11/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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he also tried to make it out that the tax cuts were subsidies. he still preys on the ignorant
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Re: Bernie Sanders Perfectly DEBUNKS Trumps Carrier Deal! [Re: Webster10] 3
#23916211 - 12/11/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Webster10 said: Bernie is then paid to trick his mindless base of sheep into supporting a candidate who embodied the exact things he had campaigned AGAINST for a year. Then the corrupt establishment politician loses to a surge of populist voters.
So unfathomably stupid.
that's unfathomably stupid.
his proponents asked him to watch Hillary like a hawk. he proceeded to take measures to do that.
you're just like any other person who can't understand just this...you're a...erm...unthinking person. (i got banned for that once. i hope this isn't counted as a flame by shroomery staff)
also: proof he was paid by Hillary?
i rest my case.
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How can Trump slap a 35% tariff when he's not even US President yet?
by proceeding to formulate plans to enact "day one", like he's been saying, before office is held, so he can claim to be "on the ball". something most of his proponents admire...that's how. how many excuses can you make for the guy? he does something, you praise. he doesn't do something, you praise...he does something that you claim he's not really doing but he says he's trying to do anyway, so he can act 'quickly', you praise...but if he didn't really, you'd praise. any of this is unexpected or questionable, you praise, but you also deny. that's a weird trick man. do you do parties?
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BTW, what has Obama done to even address this issue? NOTHING.
and what do you expect Obama to do about Trump's plans?
steal them? make them up himself? i suppose if Obama had slapped on this tariff, you'd praise? or no?
who knows. you don't even know what you want out of Trump...all you know is you so deeply want to praise.
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Prisoner#1 said: bernie sanders didnt debunk a fucking thing
tax breaks arent subsidies and we arent paying for tax breaks
but are paying for them to procure defense contracts; and Trump endorsed his relegation of said companies who attempt to procure defense contracts to a position unable to hire those same contractors as middle men for the companies hiring and practices.
and now....
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bernie is right in the fact that outsourcing jobs should result in a loss of federal contracts
Trump is going back on his word. he's allowing defense contractors to outsource American jobs, to make bank.
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qman said: I never heard of so much pissing and moaning over the idea of keeping jobs inside of the nation, unreal.
um, no one is moaning about that. you need to unwax your eyeballs.
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Re: Bernie Sanders Perfectly DEBUNKS Trumps Carrier Deal! [Re: qman]
#23916290 - 12/11/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Slightly less of one of those that allows thinking that bringing back a couple hundreds jobs at the expense of millions of dollars of taxpayers money going right into billionaire corporate pockets is "bringing back jobs". Plus laying off over 3x that many workers in October puts him at a deficit in that regard, by my calculations.
I hate to break the news, but keeping high quality jobs in the US is even more important than tax revenue at this point.
Must've been why he appointed a fast food CEO to the labor secretary right? 
I never heard of so much pissing and moaning over the idea of keeping jobs inside of the nation, unreal.
It's because it's partisan, leftists don't give a shit about Americans or their jobs, any pretense of caring when obama was president was immediately wiped out when trump was elected
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Re: Bernie Sanders Perfectly DEBUNKS Trumps Carrier Deal! [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23916302 - 12/11/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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no, it's because people are watching Trump flutter like a butterfly instead of sting like a bee; and they're watching you trying to flutter to catch him like children.
also: Obama was given a chance to fail, we should allow Trump that same pretence. only, you know, we have to watch him do thangs, as opposed to stop drop and suck dick whenever his wisdom enters into our perception.
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Re: Bernie Sanders Perfectly DEBUNKS Trumps Carrier Deal! [Re: akira_akuma]
#23916425 - 12/11/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said: no, it's because people are watching Trump flutter like a butterfly instead of sting like a bee; and they're watching you trying to flutter to catch him like children.
also: Obama was given a chance to fail, we should allow Trump that same pretence. only, you know, we have to watch him do thangs, as opposed to stop drop and suck dick whenever his wisdom enters into our perception.
Obama only cared about golf, shooting hoops and vacations to Hawaii.
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Re: Bernie Sanders Perfectly DEBUNKS Trumps Carrier Deal! [Re: qman] 2
#23916432 - 12/11/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Slightly less of one of those that allows thinking that bringing back a couple hundreds jobs at the expense of millions of dollars of taxpayers money going right into billionaire corporate pockets is "bringing back jobs". Plus laying off over 3x that many workers in October puts him at a deficit in that regard, by my calculations.
I hate to break the news, but keeping high quality jobs in the US is even more important than tax revenue at this point.
Must've been why he appointed a fast food CEO to the labor secretary right? 
I never heard of so much pissing and moaning over the idea of keeping jobs inside of the nation, unreal.
You said high quality jobs Do you consider fast food high quality jerbs? I'll keep my hopes up but fuck, nothing the fast food industry does shows an inclination for creating 'high quality jobs'
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Re: Bernie Sanders Perfectly DEBUNKS Trumps Carrier Deal! [Re: hostileuniverse] 2
#23916439 - 12/11/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's because it's partisan, leftists don't give a shit about Americans or their jobs, any pretense of caring when obama was president was immediately wiped out when trump was elected
It's not partisan. I'm happy to criticize anyone, and I was very vocal in my criticism of Hillary, the DNC - in fact overall I probably hate them more than the RNC. But now that Trumps in office, he needs the microscope - because who really gives a fuck what the democrats do right now, they have no power.
Now if Trump does something good to keep jobs in the country - and I mean real good jobs, ones that pay 60-80k and are foundations for careers, not boom/bust cycle jobs like pipelines that employ people for 6 months then they're back
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Re: Bernie Sanders Perfectly DEBUNKS Trumps Carrier Deal! [Re: qman] 1
#23916450 - 12/11/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Obongo is a closet muslim
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Re: Bernie Sanders Perfectly DEBUNKS Trumps Carrier Deal! [Re: 5150]
#23916451 - 12/11/16 02:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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and his half brother from kenya endorsed trump lol
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Re: Bernie Sanders Perfectly DEBUNKS Trumps Carrier Deal! [Re: qman]
#23916452 - 12/11/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said: no, it's because people are watching Trump flutter like a butterfly instead of sting like a bee; and they're watching you trying to flutter to catch him like children.
also: Obama was given a chance to fail, we should allow Trump that same pretence. only, you know, we have to watch him do thangs, as opposed to stop drop and suck dick whenever his wisdom enters into our perception.
Obama only cared about golf, shooting hoops and vacations to Hawaii.
yeeeaahhh....exactly...he was given a chance to fail, like i said.
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Re: Bernie Sanders Perfectly DEBUNKS Trumps Carrier Deal! [Re: akira_akuma]
#23916477 - 12/11/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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he is going to fail the enviroment, we are the only country in the entire world that doesn't beleive in global warming his dept of labor guy from clucking bell said he'd automate menu orders, he doesn't beleive in a min wage increase!! this gov't is going to be so ass backwards by the time the next election comes up, most of it will be living in squalor and working harder for it
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Re: Bernie Sanders Perfectly DEBUNKS Trumps Carrier Deal! [Re: Konyap]
#23916492 - 12/11/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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pulled by your bootstraps into a new reality....
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Re: Bernie Sanders Perfectly DEBUNKS Trumps Carrier Deal! [Re: Webster10] 3
#23916612 - 12/11/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Webster10 said: It was a general statement, not necessarily directed at you.
"Trump backing out of all of his campaign promises." ^ How mindless, gullible, butthurt or plain stupid do you have to be to believe that?
probably less gullible and mindless than your overbearing support of trump
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/10/505072304/cia-concludes-russian-interference-aimed-to-elect-trump
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