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Carl_Beans
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Can I still use this as spawn?
#23914697 - 12/10/16 10:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I inoculated these jars and had them sitting for about a month now. I want to spawn them to a coir/verm substrate but i am not sure if they are still good. Can i still spawn them like i normally would or is it contaminated?
Sorry i am still a noob. Any advice is appreciated.
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czech
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Re: Can I still use this as spawn? [Re: Carl_Beans]
#23914715 - 12/10/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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They have been trying to pin. They're going to fruit as soon as you take em out of the jar. Best to just birth it and harvest like a normal pf cake.
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Re: Can I still use this as spawn? [Re: Carl_Beans]
#23914724 - 12/10/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Those jars are bacterial. Could you spawn them? Yes you could but it's time and resources that could be used to start a new project and try to do things right. Bacterial substrates will fruit in most cases but the yield would be greatly compromised and the mycelium colony will be weak to fight contams.
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PussyFart
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Re: Can I still use this as spawn? [Re: czech]
#23914736 - 12/10/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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czech said: They have been trying to pin. They're going to fruit as soon as you take em out of the jar. Best to just birth it and harvest like a normal pf cake.
Those jars are contaminated like crazy.
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czech
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Re: Can I still use this as spawn? [Re: PussyFart]
#23914789 - 12/10/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh actually you are correct. I was on my phone and really only saw a sea of white and some pins in there squirming to get out.
Still worth a try to put it in tupperware for a few days and see if it just happens to fruit.
Today alone I ate 5 or 6 lightly molded caps and stems, I don't really have anything against light mold as long as it's my supply only (no liability) and theres more mush than mold you know?
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Re: Can I still use this as spawn? [Re: czech]
#23914799 - 12/10/16 10:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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please stop
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Re: Can I still use this as spawn? [Re: czech]
#23914802 - 12/10/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The best thing OP could do with those jars if he doesn't want to toss them is bury them in the yard and hopefully he'll see some fruits. Those jars look so disgusting to even bother with a monotub.
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Carl_Beans
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Re: Can I still use this as spawn? [Re: Josex]
#23914809 - 12/10/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I opened up one jar and it smells like fresh mushrooms. Can it still be contaminated?
I was planning on putting into trays with voir/verm letting is sit for a few days and putting it into mt fruiting chamber. Can i still do that?
or can i just put it into Tupperware without the coir/verm?
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czech
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Re: Can I still use this as spawn? [Re: Carl_Beans]
#23914822 - 12/10/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It really depends on how low you would go man.
Same question as asking if food you dropped is okay it eat.
Depends on the person and there are potential dangers, it's a risk/reward optimization process.
In my junkie opinion, it's worth it to set aside a 5 gallon bucket with some paper towels at the bottom and let it run wild for a few days just to see what happens.
I think pussyfart is just ashamed that anyone would stoop so low, but that's what being desperate is, it's a stoop.
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Re: Can I still use this as spawn? [Re: Carl_Beans]
#23914827 - 12/10/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Carl_Beans said: I opened up one jar and it smells like fresh mushrooms. Can it still be contaminated?
I was planning on putting into trays with voir/verm letting is sit for a few days and putting it into mt fruiting chamber. Can i still do that?
or can i just put it into Tupperware without the coir/verm?
Yes dude, they're heavily bacterial. It's your call though, most people will just toss those things and start anew, but if you want to try and fruit them go ahead and maybe you could learn a thing or two and hopefully never try to spawn jars that are that badly contaminated.
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Re: Can I still use this as spawn? [Re: Josex]
#23914833 - 12/10/16 10:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yup, it's worth trying even failure is a lesson learned.
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Re: Can I still use this as spawn? [Re: PussyFart]
#23915391 - 12/11/16 07:40 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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PussyFart said:
please stop
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Re: Can I still use this as spawn? [Re: Josex]
#23915430 - 12/11/16 08:00 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bacterial spawn. You can tell by the way te mycelium has not encompassed the grains in the bottom of the jar. Don't waste your time trying to spawn... You'll just waste your substrate to contams. We NEVER skimp on spawn in mycology. NEVER use spawn that shows signs of contams. Strive to produce better spawn. Just gotta review your sterile culture practices until you can say for sure you got a clean jar.
For future reference, OP, one way we can tell if a jar is contammed is the recovery test. This is where you shake up a jar of grain and see how log it takes to fully recovery... I mean mycelium completely covering every grain. If it takes more than three days, it's probably contammed. You would know if you have clean spawn within a day as the Healthy mycelium will be reaching out trying to reconnect the colony.
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Josex said: The best thing OP could do with those jars if he doesn't want to toss them is bury them in the yard and hopefully he'll see some fruits. Those jars look so disgusting to even bother with a monotub.

Keep reading and keep practicing.
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