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Re: Can regular psilocybin use( more than once per week) damage receptors responsible for sleep [Re: totallylike]
    #23959170 - 12/26/16 08:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Luckily the human body is extraordinarily resilient and can come back from disease - natural or self grown - ex. a drug dependence.

It just takes a long time - but it goes back to normal.  I know first hand.  But its like rebuilding the body the old way - like a kid growing and developing.  Takes time, healthy living, good food, adequate rest and sleep, wake and sleep regularity, bowel movments regularly, no drugs unless its truly needed, adequate physical activity/exercise - and good social interaction/support.

Everything changes in nature with the seasons in 1 year - and your part of it - so why wouldnt you?
But you got to let that brain heal, so no more drugs once you have tapered off or finished.  It wont heal if you keep putting that shit in your system, its got to heal all the way naturally and it takes time for everything to become regular again...but it does , thank god.


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Re: Can regular psilocybin use( more than once per week) damage receptors responsible for sleep [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23960381 - 12/27/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I can report that in the past week things have significantly improved. I am taking mirtazapine at 30mg( non addictive antidepressant which I've been taking at night now for just over a week along with 1 x 0.5mg of clonazepam( evil drug I'm weaning off of) and my sleep appears to be coming back I'm now sleeping legit unconscious sleep for about 4.5 hours sometimes a little more sometimes a little less it seems to be getting better with each day. At the dose I'm taking of clonazepam there is no way it would be enough to provide sedative effects as I had previously been taking 3 to 4 times as much.

My mood, energy and sense of humor seem to be returning. I will continue my wean off of the gross benzos which I will never take again no matter what and perhaps try and get off mirtazapine in about 6 months after feeling like I have stabilized. I am going to the gym 5 times a week now and am making sure I don't gain weight in fact I'm losing weight and gaining muscle mass.

I'm no longer feeling like I'm losing my mind. I can now focus on my new projects I have on the go and not worry about mistakes being made.

Fingers crossed that things keep progressing in the right manner.


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Re: Can regular psilocybin use( more than once per week) damage receptors responsible for sleep [Re: Dabrit]
    #23960396 - 12/27/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Glad it's getting better Bro!:awethumb:


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Re: Can regular psilocybin use( more than once per week) damage receptors responsible for sleep [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #23960479 - 12/27/16 12:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Its truly a marathon of patience when it comes to getting off of drugs that cause dependence.  Unless you want cold turkey which is usually irresponsible and sometimes possibly deadly.  Weening is the way to go, sure you'll have more waves of normal/not normal for longer - but your poor little brain will return to baseline slowly and surely and thank you for it in the long run in life.  Good job mate .  Takes guts to do what your doing, takes guts to go through with it and life without something to dull the anxieties and pain of life.


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Re: Can regular psilocybin use( more than once per week) damage receptors responsible for sleep [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23960486 - 12/27/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Glad it's getting better Bro!:awethumb:




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Its truly a marathon of patience when it comes to getting off of drugs that cause dependence.  Unless you want cold turkey which is usually irresponsible and sometimes possibly deadly.  Weening is the way to go, sure you'll have more waves of normal/not normal for longer - but your poor little brain will return to baseline slowly and surely and thank you for it in the long run in life.  Good job mate .  Takes guts to do what your doing, takes guts to go through with it and life without something to dull the anxieties and pain of life.




Thanks for the support guys this really has been a tough ordeal but I've tried to remain hopeful throughout and be mindful of not substituting one addiction for another. I.E never drinking more than 1 or two drinks max otherwise I would rely on alcohol to sleep it's still going to be months before I'm completely off the benzo's but with each and every day I'm getting closer to the light at the end of the tunnel.


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Re: Can regular psilocybin use( more than once per week) damage receptors responsible for sleep [Re: Dabrit]
    #23960604 - 12/27/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Melatonin in high doses just works counter productive... Less is more. Too much and your body doesn't even make it itself anymore.




Dude I've tried 1, 3 and 10mg melatonin that shit is for people with temporary insomnia not chronic like mine. Trust me the shit actually makes more alert than anything. Ingested melatonin just doesn't have the same action long term as melatonin created in the brain. Benadryl and any other kind of over the counter stuff also does not help me.

I think my brain is tolerant to sedatives period seeing as mirtazapine makes most people Ko'd for the first week they take it for me it's just mild drowsiness. 7.5mg of Zopliclone doesn't do anything either.




I used to take melatonin regularly to great effect, however now it gives me racing thoughts - the exact opposite of inducing sleep.

Im not sure if it's brand specific.  I'm used Optimum Nutrition Melatonin last and ended up having to bin them.


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Re: Can regular psilocybin use( more than once per week) damage receptors responsible for sleep [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23960756 - 12/27/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Tiamo said:
Melatonin in high doses just works counter productive... Less is more. Too much and your body doesn't even make it itself anymore.




Dude I've tried 1, 3 and 10mg melatonin that shit is for people with temporary insomnia not chronic like mine. Trust me the shit actually makes more alert than anything. Ingested melatonin just doesn't have the same action long term as melatonin created in the brain. Benadryl and any other kind of over the counter stuff also does not help me.

I think my brain is tolerant to sedatives period seeing as mirtazapine makes most people Ko'd for the first week they take it for me it's just mild drowsiness. 7.5mg of Zopliclone doesn't do anything either.




I used to take melatonin regularly to great effect, however now it gives me racing thoughts - the exact opposite of inducing sleep.

Im not sure if it's brand specific.  I'm used Optimum Nutrition Melatonin last and ended up having to bin them.




Melatonin like anything else which is a sleep aid can become habit forming it is never meant to be taken regularly. If you take it too often your brain stops creating it's own melatonin thus making it counter intuitive. It's meant mainly to reset your circadian rhythm.


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Re: Can regular psilocybin use( more than once per week) damage receptors responsible for sleep [Re: Dabrit]
    #23960787 - 12/27/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Dabrit said:
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Tiamo said:
Melatonin in high doses just works counter productive... Less is more. Too much and your body doesn't even make it itself anymore.




Dude I've tried 1, 3 and 10mg melatonin that shit is for people with temporary insomnia not chronic like mine. Trust me the shit actually makes more alert than anything. Ingested melatonin just doesn't have the same action long term as melatonin created in the brain. Benadryl and any other kind of over the counter stuff also does not help me.

I think my brain is tolerant to sedatives period seeing as mirtazapine makes most people Ko'd for the first week they take it for me it's just mild drowsiness. 7.5mg of Zopliclone doesn't do anything either.




I used to take melatonin regularly to great effect, however now it gives me racing thoughts - the exact opposite of inducing sleep.

Im not sure if it's brand specific.  I'm used Optimum Nutrition Melatonin last and ended up having to bin them.




Melatonin like anything else which is a sleep aid can become habit forming it is never meant to be taken regularly. If you take it too often your brain stops creating it's own melatonin thus making it counter intuitive. It's meant mainly to reset your circadian rhythm.




I took it only once every few months so it wasn't a case of habit and natural shutdown.


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Re: Can regular psilocybin use( more than once per week) damage receptors responsible for sleep [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23960796 - 12/27/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not sure then perhaps manufacturer could be a factor.

Also I've heard never to use more than 3mg. Some of the ones available go up to 10mg which is far too much.


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Re: Can regular psilocybin use( more than once per week) damage receptors responsible for sleep [Re: Dabrit]
    #23960801 - 12/27/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I thought the same when I seen the large doses.

Melatonin was introduced into the 'bodybuilding' and fitness market and with that, the desperate companies try to appeal to the egos of the consumers with huge, stated, unnecessary doses in a bid to outshine the competition.

I used 1mg and rarely 2mg.


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Re: Can regular psilocybin use( more than once per week) damage receptors responsible for sleep [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23960839 - 12/27/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Melatonin is pretty safe. Ive taken 2-5mg a night for months and if I quit I don't have any sort of withdrawals or trouble going to sleep. I've taken doses in the range of 20-40mg too and didn't notice anything significant. It might stop working after awhile but that's about it.


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Re: Can regular psilocybin use( more than once per week) damage receptors responsible for sleep [Re: krypto2000]
    #23960865 - 12/27/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Melatonin is pretty safe. Ive taken 2-5mg a night for months and if I quit I don't have any sort of withdrawals or trouble going to sleep. I've taken doses in the range of 20-40mg too and didn't notice anything significant. It might stop working after awhile but that's about it.




When it stops working, that's when you've got yourself a problem, especially if you find it necessary to do as much as 40mg.


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Re: Can regular psilocybin use( more than once per week) damage receptors responsible for sleep [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23960921 - 12/27/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I spoke with a pharmacist about it they suggested not taking for lo her than a week. In that time period as long as you have been taking it at the same time and in perfect darkness your natural circadian rhythm should come back( barring any other medical conditions or addictions like my own story)


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