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Teemo's Agar Casing Trial run
    #23912300 - 12/10/16 07:01 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

First of all, props to Azur for having this idea

It all started from there :lol:
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I think agar as a casing is a neat idea, but in reality it would rapidly contam.




Just gave me an idea. . .




Didn't want to post anything till i got some results, so here we are. :super:

So i got some un-modified mini monos and pasturised coco coir in them at 150 F, for about an hour.



Moving on to the casing, i first boiled some black tea for some biotic resistance


Next added some agar agar, it was pure agar agar! NOT the pre-mixed stuff.


Next added some verm cus i thought it would fluff the agar a bit (which it kind of didn't, well... sort of did)


Keep in mind i did not use any PC or anything, i boiled the water for about 20 min i think (tea diffusion, and also waited for all the agar agar to melt in).

Here it is after it cooled, who wants some-a-dat sparkly green :wink::sunny:






The spawn was a clone, but it was also bacterial, due to my carelessness..

Never thought it would fruit from it, i did this whole thing cus i wanted to just test things out and see how it goes.

Seems like cubes just don't give a fuck..



Here they are getting bigger.. Some new ones popping out too.



As for the other tub, i just cased it with agar

But this time i hot/warm poured the agar on top of the sub, instead of waiting for it to cool, also i didn't add any vermiculite.

I wanted to see what is the difference, and if it could also somehow still fruit, with that dense layer, especially since its not fluffed up .

Will be updating soon.




Update of second tub that was poured with agar



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Re: Teemo's Agar Casing Trial run [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #23912313 - 12/10/16 07:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Congrats, it fruits...  but :why:

I can't see any benefit of mixing agar into a casing layer :lol:
It ruins the micro climate IMO.

No offense... I just don't understand why someone should do this.


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Re: Teemo's Agar Casing Trial run [Re: enlightenment]
    #23912330 - 12/10/16 07:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I was just bored, wanted to see what comes out of this lol. :hehehe:

Would be a great water reservoir for the fruits i guess. :shrug:


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Re: Teemo's Agar Casing Trial run [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #23912342 - 12/10/16 07:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Would be a great water reservoir for the fruits i guess. :shrug:




That's an argument. There is a powder for flowers that becomes a gel when it's hydrated to act as a water reservoir. I don't know the ingredients but it might be worth a try. If you like to experiment you could give this a try, too.


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Re: Teemo's Agar Casing Trial run [Re: enlightenment]
    #23912348 - 12/10/16 07:32 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

you can run agar on poms https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20643482 for a microlattice like coir with less nutes or pom coir mix. would be good for shrooms that go mutant with too many nutes.


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Re: Teemo's Agar Casing Trial run [Re: enlightenment]
    #23912536 - 12/10/16 09:27 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Well we're 100% sure that agar is non-nutritive, so i'd rather stick with that lol.

Again i was just testing Azur's idea, and it worked :dancer:

Pasty said he would test this out soon too, hopefully he gets results from his side too.


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Re: Teemo's Agar Casing Trial run [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #23916046 - 12/11/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

thats crazy! and absolutely awesome...:thumbup:


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Re: Teemo's Agar Casing Trial run [Re: funkymonk22]
    #23916096 - 12/11/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Well done that's cool


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Re: Teemo's Agar Casing Trial run [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23916163 - 12/11/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Teemo's Agar Casing Trial run [Re: mushboy]
    #23929161 - 12/15/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Update?


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Re: Teemo's Agar Casing Trial run [Re: Tiamo]
    #23929249 - 12/15/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

This is the second tub which i just hot poured the agar on, looks like some of the mycelium penetrated through the agar casing, could be mold though, not sure at the moment.

We'll just have to keep it on the side and see what happens, will update if it fruits, if not then :shrug:



For the next tub i might be testing out bw86 casing, where he uses a sand layer then a normal casing mix of verm & peat.

This tub of coir/hpoo is colonising since 10 dec, i'd say 3 more days and i'll start casing.



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Re: Teemo's Agar Casing Trial run [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #23948275 - 12/22/16 07:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Seeing some shrooms popping out through the poured agar casing  :awejeez:

Never thought it would actually fruit, its like fruiting from under the agar... looks so cool..

Will upload the pics soon enough.


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Re: Teemo's Agar Casing Trial run [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #23948366 - 12/22/16 08:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)





The pics aren't so clear, but it looks so cool how they are forming under the agar and tearing through it


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Re: Teemo's Agar Casing Trial run [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #23948385 - 12/22/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know why this is so funny to me. :rofl: Rock on little shroomies! :rockon:


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Re: Teemo's Agar Casing Trial run [Re: Tiamo]
    #23948410 - 12/22/16 08:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:whathesaid: such a cool project


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Re: Teemo's Agar Casing Trial run [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23948434 - 12/22/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

This is cool. My run got aborted due to the wife tossing the agar I was preparing but I am gonna take a stab at it again soon.

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Re: Teemo's Agar Casing Trial run [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23948564 - 12/22/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Update us when you do. :rockon:

I'm not using a tested clone so it won't really tell if agar casing is even close to what you get with normal peat casing.

So your input to this would really help.

At least it fruited though, that shows its giving some what of a good micro climate for fruiting i guess.



And a couple of observations:

I realised that as i poured the warm agar a layer of bubble formed on the surface of the colonised sub. And as it cooled the agar wasn't straight on the surface as i thought it would be like it was on a plate.

It was very irregular with bumps and shit. Also, when i waited for fruiting, the agar seemed to pull apart from each other like its some kinda of tectonic plate lol.

Just checked on it again, and i see a couple of side pins developing even though when i hot poured the agar, the agar literally covered all the nooks and crannies of the sub, especially on the sides that were pulling apart from the tub.



The parts that look like uncolonised sub is actually where the agar filled up the gaps.


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Re: Teemo's Agar Casing Trial run [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #23948598 - 12/22/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Well what I had in mind is quite different from what your doing. But it's all R&D. I will be using clones tho to control my results a bit.


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Re: Teemo's Agar Casing Trial run [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23948615 - 12/22/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

So does the agar not cut off air to it?


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Re: Teemo's Agar Casing Trial run [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23948631 - 12/22/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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So does the agar not cut off air to it?




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