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CLIT
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could light and sounds be "psychedelic" or perhaps "hypnotic"?
#23912253 - 12/10/16 06:12 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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There's a thread that mentioned something about virtual reality becoming hallucinogenic in the future so I'm thinking lighting and or sounds (that gets in the head or "triggers") may factor in inducing hallucinations or hypnosis. I have used those "therapeutic" blue lights marketed for seasonal affective disorder but I think it gave me more of a manic personality and aggression (exactly the opposite of depression so it does work in that regard). I have used glasses that block blue lights, which is touted as being helpful to bi polar people as if to say "blue lights" may play a role in bi polars. I'm not sure what the stats are if bi polar patients are morning people as they tend to see more "blue" during day time. I'm a night person, would night person then be more affected by other forms of mental illness? Perhaps psychosis? I guess lack of blue light must have some effect in night people?
I think this is something that needs to be looked in to that maybe lights do affect the mind as much as sound as well. If anyone here know of any light therapy products or hypnotic light products you've tried, let me know. Some of those Christmas lighting that reflects colorful images on the houses does feel a bit hypnotic. Those trance music club lighting as well. If in the future these lighting are "enhanced" to affect the mind, that should be interesting.
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Re: could light and sounds be "psychedelic" or perhaps "hypnotic"? [Re: CLIT]
#23914526 - 12/10/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have had unmistakable flashes of visuals during sound healing concerts with gong, didgeridoo and crystal bowl. It's only a flash and it's rare but it can happen.
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Re: could light and sounds be "psychedelic" or perhaps "hypnotic"? [Re: TGS]
#23914562 - 12/10/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was surfing the other day, and noticed these very very strange lights coming into my vision while waiting for a wave. They were small, and dancing around each other wherever i looked. Even if i wasn't focusing on them, they were there. They weren't round either, it was like light looked when you move your head really quickly past it, but they weren't moving quickly. I used to have depression and i have antisocial personality disorder, i don't know if that is why, but it was strange at the least.
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Re: could light and sounds be "psychedelic" or perhaps "hypnotic"? [Re: Ancestoralbeings]
#23919158 - 12/12/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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There are Audio Visual light and sound machines that do indeed create some pretty interesting effects. There's solid research and data on their use and effectiveness in some areas. Just google AVS light and sound machine. They combine bineural audio (use GOOD headphone, seriously makes a difference) with multi colored LED's flashing at specific frequencies and patterns. Fun stuff 
I've only used them with cannabis or no drugs and they can indeed put you in various altered states.
I own the Pyrocon (think thats how its spelled) model.
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Re: could light and sounds be "psychedelic" or perhaps "hypnotic"? [Re: brainysmurf]
#23919199 - 12/12/16 11:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I heard about those "Isolation Tanks" which are sealed rooms without any light and soundproof, the bath inside contains magnesium sulphate so that you float without an effort.
this causes sensory deprivation and probably some interesting things can happen inside.
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Re: could light and sounds be "psychedelic" or perhaps "hypnotic"? [Re: psilosalvia]
#23919914 - 12/12/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Check this out: I read somewhere also that this light therapy can give you a straight-on visual trip, but I can't seem to find it at the moment.
http://lucialight.com/how-does-it-work/
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Re: could light and sounds be "psychedelic" or perhaps "hypnotic"? [Re: Jenjens]
#23921645 - 12/13/16 03:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm waiting for you to find it. Was it a review by someone or more like a legitimate study?
I've tried those blue light therapy thing made by Philips. Made me manic and aggressive. Maybe blue lights wasn't for me as it's made for people with Seasonal Affective Disorder, people who don't see much blue skies and sunlight, etc.
http://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/HF3332_60/golite-blu-energy-light
These Lucia lights you mentioned stated this:
"Lucia has a low voltage central halogen light and 8 LED lights. It is not recommended for epileptics, or people who are light sensitive. Otherwise, it is perfectly safe, as it is experienced with eyes closed. Light enters the retina, into the pineal gland, or 3rd eye."
How does light "enter" with eyes closed? Can someone explain?
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Jenjens said: Check this out: I read somewhere also that this light therapy can give you a straight-on visual trip, but I can't seem to find it at the moment.
http://lucialight.com/how-does-it-work/
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Re: could light and sounds be "psychedelic" or perhaps "hypnotic"? [Re: brainysmurf]
#23921655 - 12/13/16 04:04 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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LEDs does have dangers:
http://www.ehow.com/facts_6936769_blue-led-light-dangers.html
I hope they are referring to other LEDs not the ones that are in these "light therapy" boxes they sell.
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brainysmurf said: There are Audio Visual light and sound machines that do indeed create some pretty interesting effects. There's solid research and data on their use and effectiveness in some areas. Just google AVS light and sound machine. They combine bineural audio (use GOOD headphone, seriously makes a difference) with multi colored LED's flashing at specific frequencies and patterns. Fun stuff 
I've only used them with cannabis or no drugs and they can indeed put you in various altered states.
I own the Pyrocon (think thats how its spelled) model.
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Re: could light and sounds be "psychedelic" or perhaps "hypnotic"? [Re: CLIT]
#23921676 - 12/13/16 04:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I remember reading "the holographic universe" and there was a couple who managed to induce psychedelic trips to their patients via music, light, dancing and touch.
Need to look for it.
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Re: could light and sounds be "psychedelic" or perhaps "hypnotic"? [Re: ZacksJourney]
#23925032 - 12/14/16 05:51 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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is it a sci fi book or what? what music?
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Re: could light and sounds be "psychedelic" or perhaps "hypnotic"? [Re: CLIT]
#23925063 - 12/14/16 06:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not sci-fi. It's by michael talbot you should read it, pretty amazing. I'll look for this chapter and repost.
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Re: could light and sounds be "psychedelic" or perhaps "hypnotic"? [Re: ZacksJourney]
#23925237 - 12/14/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I believe light can induce a "psychedelic" effect, but also sound and especially music can tap into it this as well.
To me it's all about energy. (Period. - End of story)...
Experienced thru:
- Vibration.
- Frequency.
- Resonance(in terms of "never really dissipating").
It's these certain frequencies we can sometimes connect to that cause the phenomenon. Connections (i.e. openings or portals) can happen thru chemical means, or even involuntarily thru the energy of sound vibrations.
It's that magic that some musicians and artists can channel into, propelling them and often times an audience or onlookers into a different state of being. sometimes these channels and frequencies are tapped completely by accident or innocently, other times these powers can be manipulated or used in not so wholesome of ways.
Its kind of a scary thought to think about, but that's the light/dark we traverse in this world. It's up to the individual to choose the right path when entered into these energy-shared realms and they should be approached with due caution.
The implications of sound and light "magic" (i.e. Energy produced vibrations and frequencies) are truely endless.
Be care out there.
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Re: could light and sounds be "psychedelic" or perhaps "hypnotic"? [Re: brainysmurf]
#24256144 - 04/19/17 03:52 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Procyon.
How did you hear about this? I'm just looking into it.
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brainysmurf said: There are Audio Visual light and sound machines that do indeed create some pretty interesting effects. There's solid research and data on their use and effectiveness in some areas. Just google AVS light and sound machine. They combine bineural audio (use GOOD headphone, seriously makes a difference) with multi colored LED's flashing at specific frequencies and patterns. Fun stuff 
I've only used them with cannabis or no drugs and they can indeed put you in various altered states.
I own the Pyrocon (think thats how its spelled) model.
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Re: could light and sounds be "psychedelic" or perhaps "hypnotic"? [Re: CLIT]
#24258784 - 04/20/17 02:16 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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CLIT said: is it a sci fi book or what? what music?
Now that is just fucking crazy.
I just read the book by Talbot again and landed on the chapter (3) I was talking about.
Look for Stanislav grof techniques, he wrote about it in his book "The Adventure Of Self Discovery".
Talking about synchronicity.
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There you go:
https://www.scribd.com/doc/76669667/Stanislav-Grof-The-Adventure-of-Self-Discovery
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Edited by ZacksJourney (04/20/17 02:19 AM)
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Re: could light and sounds be "psychedelic" or perhaps "hypnotic"? [Re: brainysmurf]
#24272225 - 04/26/17 03:07 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Are you familiar with the writings of author Michael Hutchison? He wrote the books Mega Brain, plus other writings about mind machines or brain machines. There's even stuff out there regarding uses of magnets for brain function...
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brainysmurf said: There are Audio Visual light and sound machines that do indeed create some pretty interesting effects. There's solid research and data on their use and effectiveness in some areas. Just google AVS light and sound machine. They combine bineural audio (use GOOD headphone, seriously makes a difference) with multi colored LED's flashing at specific frequencies and patterns. Fun stuff 
I've only used them with cannabis or no drugs and they can indeed put you in various altered states.
I own the Pyrocon (think thats how its spelled) model.
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Re: could light and sounds be "psychedelic" or perhaps "hypnotic"? [Re: CLIT]
#24272259 - 04/26/17 04:32 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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this is the first time I have heard of 'mind machines'. they sound interesting. I must research this a bit on the weekend to see if they are just some new age gimmicky thing or are legit for experiencing some mild psychedelic experiences
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Re: could light and sounds be "psychedelic" or perhaps "hypnotic"? [Re: Spirit Seeker]
#24274985 - 04/27/17 03:18 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not sure all psychedelic experiences mean you'd be hallucinating like you would on LSD.
Psychedelic synonyms:
hallucinatory, trippy, dream-like, mind-bending, mind-altering, mind-expanding, mind-blowing, bizarre, surreal
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Re: could light and sounds be "psychedelic" or perhaps "hypnotic"? [Re: Spirit Seeker]
#24275173 - 04/27/17 07:37 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah it's obscure.
There are some mind machines reviewed here:
https://wiki.ezvid.com/best-mind-machines
I'm looking to get one for my birthday.
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Spirit Seeker said: this is the first time I have heard of 'mind machines'. they sound interesting. I must research this a bit on the weekend to see if they are just some new age gimmicky thing or are legit for experiencing some mild psychedelic experiences
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Re: could light and sounds be "psychedelic" or perhaps "hypnotic"? [Re: CLIT]
#24276145 - 04/27/17 02:02 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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I get high from listening to Psytrance/High-tech + having a room with UV Lights and paintings/drawings , nice patterns .
Summing up , a nice atmosphere + a hardcore bass playing my music gets me high and hyponised
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Re: could light and sounds be "psychedelic" or perhaps "hypnotic"? [Re: EternitySeeker]
#24276390 - 04/27/17 03:51 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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What kind of lighting product do you have? Is the Hypnotic Light Cube (sold by Sharper Image) a good one to try? It's $100.
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