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OfflineSolivagant
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Help with my philosophy.
    #23911551 - 12/09/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

So I'm in the process of creating my own philosophy/pseudo-religion. Any tips on structuring it? I'm having a hard time making it concise. For the sake of working through a philosophy thoroughly, any questions you could pose to me?

I'd rather not go into detail about it until it's all fleshed out, so this is more for generalities. I have a firm grasp on what my ideas are, I just need to think about it through a different lense than that of the questions that have been in my head too long already.


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Re: Help with my philosophy. [Re: Solivagant]
    #23911596 - 12/09/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Start with Plato or the Pre-Socratic philosophers (Thales, Heraclitus, Pythagoras, Anaximander, Anaximenes, Parmenides, etc).

The trick is to practice formal logic so that you're not just speaking nonsense. Then when those illogical idiots who think every opinion is of equal worth open their mouth you can put them in their place.


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Re: Help with my philosophy. [Re: Solivagant]
    #23911702 - 12/09/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Smoke lots of weed and let your higher circuits of consciousness form an intuition that guides you through the process of editing your manifesto. Everything becomes clear on high doses of weed.


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Re: Help with my philosophy. [Re: Alyssa] * 3
    #23911932 - 12/10/16 12:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Smoke lots of weed and let your higher circuits of consciousness form an intuition that guides you through the process of editing your manifesto. Everything becomes clear on high doses of weed.




I cant even...


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Re: Help with my philosophy. [Re: Solivagant]
    #23911967 - 12/10/16 01:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

you could start by exploring openness
you know, the well known idea, that if you want others to be open with you
you should be open with them ... first ....

don't think it's likely to be improved upon

but what do i know?
most likely I'm attempting to let go of dogmas, or are they simply falling away?


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Re: Help with my philosophy. [Re: laughingdog]
    #23911981 - 12/10/16 01:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:jimmies:


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Edited by The Blind Ass (12/10/16 02:08 AM)


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Re: Help with my philosophy. [Re: Solivagant]
    #23912005 - 12/10/16 02:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Start here with Plato's concept of the Tripartite soul.


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Re: Help with my philosophy. [Re: sudly]
    #23912189 - 12/10/16 05:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I would start by throwing it all out.

Your ideas are holding you back, this is obvious by the blatant imperiousness of your goal, to create a new following, religion, philosophy - really?

followings happen after the world appreciates the "beauty" of the ideas.
religions happen when politics gets involved.


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Re: Help with my philosophy. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23912197 - 12/10/16 05:12 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

edit# meant for OP


Edited by zzripz (12/10/16 05:14 AM)


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Re: Help with my philosophy. [Re: Solivagant]
    #23912199 - 12/10/16 05:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Solivagant said:
So I'm in the process of creating my own philosophy/pseudo-religion. Any tips on structuring it? I'm having a hard time making it concise. For the sake of working through a philosophy thoroughly, any questions you could pose to me?

I'd rather not go into detail about it until it's all fleshed out, so this is more for generalities. I have a firm grasp on what my ideas are, I just need to think about it through a different lense than that of the questions that have been in my head too long already.




funnily enough, I had an idea earlier about starting a thread titled 'the philosophy of evil', but then i wondered if that sounded too pretentious, and thought of the title 'the study of evil'

A big question is this 'evil'

I have been thinking of it since looking into 'Pizzagate' past several weeks. This is a current thing concerning the subject of pedophilia which also includes some pretty even darker stuff like cannibalism, torture, murder.

So a question I pose to you: how do you understand evil?


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Re: Help with my philosophy. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23912205 - 12/10/16 05:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

My goal is moreso a scientific spirituality. :tongue2:


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Re: Help with my philosophy. [Re: sudly]
    #23912230 - 12/10/16 05:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

the illusion of truth


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Re: Help with my philosophy. [Re: sudly]
    #23912232 - 12/10/16 06:00 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

ok thinkers,
make your ideas beautiful, and drop political ambitions.


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Re: Help with my philosophy. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23913222 - 12/10/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

With all the Greek guys, and Europeans, and the mystics like Crowley and Gurdjieff, and the american transcendentalists and revisionists, there's no way OP's got something new.


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Re: Help with my philosophy. [Re: Middleman]
    #23913356 - 12/10/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Something must be all and wholly new to be worth existing? I don't aim to create something new, but to bring together all that I would want to claim as my own--and if something new happens to slip through, I'll take it. There hasn't been anything new from any time we can remember, all those that you listed borrowed from those before them. We stand too tall to claim newness; we stand on the shoulders of giants, and those before them, and so on.


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Re: Help with my philosophy. [Re: Solivagant]
    #23913427 - 12/10/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I don't believe there are any inherent meanings in life or that there's an objective morality but I do believe there is a purpose to life in DNA translation which has brought over 4 billion years of evolution to planet Earth.

Most people seem to think that consciousness is something that makes humans unique but by dictionary definition consciousness is being aware of external surroundings and even a virus can do that as they are capable of detecting and attacking cells.

I would think that what makes humans and service animals unique is a sense or morality, a conscience and overall sentience.

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consciousness: the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings.




If you're interested in hearing an upcoming new theory called 'Triune Dualism' here's a little thought experiment to get you started.
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If humans are sentient and we evolved then is there a need to prove that sentience evolved or is it how sentience evolved in humans that still needs to be argued?




Since it's scientific fact that humans evolved and our modern societies are an expression of sentience it's safe to say that humans evolved and we are sentient. If that's the case then all that's needed to prove sentience evolved is an argument for HOW sentience evolved. Sentience in service animals such as army dolphins and guide dogs can be expressed because they have been taught intelligent disobedience which teaches an animal to recognise internal perceptions of good and bad in order to make the best decision in regards to the safety of their owner/role.
E.g. A guide dog pulling their owner back to stop them being hit by a speeding vehicle as they cross the road.


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Re: Help with my philosophy. [Re: Solivagant]
    #23914187 - 12/10/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Solivagant said:
So I'm in the process of creating my own philosophy/pseudo-religion. Any tips on structuring it? I'm having a hard time making it concise. For the sake of working through a philosophy thoroughly, any questions you could pose to me?

I'd rather not go into detail about it until it's all fleshed out, so this is more for generalities. I have a firm grasp on what my ideas are, I just need to think about it through a different lense than that of the questions that have been in my head too long already.




Sorry, I don't provide philosophical advice to someone who is vague as hell.  You may have a firm grip on what your ideas are, but you left me in outer space as to this thread.  Sorry I can't be of any help, nor would I want to be.  When you get more serious, then maybe, just maybe.


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Re: Help with my philosophy. [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23914282 - 12/10/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I was vague because details weren't pertinent. I asked for general questions to spur further thought. I wasn't asking for philosophical help, because I am quite serious and don't really need help in that area. I was just looking for discussion.


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Re: Help with my philosophy. [Re: Solivagant] * 1
    #23914286 - 12/10/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Solivagant said:
I was vague because details weren't pertinent. I asked for general questions to spur further thought. I wasn't asking for philosophical help, because I am quite serious and don't really need help in that area. I was just looking for discussion.




oH lORD wHY hAVE yOU fORESAKEN mE?



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Re: Help with my philosophy. [Re: Solivagant] * 1
    #23914325 - 12/10/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Something must be all and wholly new to be worth existing? I don't aim to create something new, but to bring together all that I would want to claim as my own--and if something new happens to slip through, I'll take it. There hasn't been anything new from any time we can remember, all those that you listed borrowed from those before them. We stand too tall to claim newness; we stand on the shoulders of giants, and those before them, and so on.




Maybe so, but getting up on their shoulders takes a lifetime of dedicated study.


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