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Grain hulls/chaff as substrate
    #23907822 - 12/08/16 05:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I get that "pretty much anything can be used as mushroom substrate", so I'm not looking for a 'easy' answer, but an enlightening one. I want to understand what grain chaff/hull is really worth when it comes to growing commercial mushrooms on a small-medium scale, let's pick oysters for the sake of argument. Judging by the nutritional facts I have available, wheat straw and wheat chaff are almost identical when it comes to nutrients (in Mushroom Cultivator appendix, chaff is slightly higher in N, straw slightly higher in fibre). With my current set-up, it is easier for me to lime pasteurize than any other method (I'm only using straw right now.)
My bottle neck is all my mushroom inputs have to be certified organic (so cotton seed or soybean hulls and even alfalfa pellets are pretty much out of the question). So I have found spelt and emmer hulls for $60 per 1 ton tote (these totes won't actually have 1 ton in them because chaff isn't dense, but if there's even 500lbs in it, that's still HALF the price I am currently able to source organic straw). I also wouldn't have to chop straw anymore, which saves me fuel and labour-hours with the shredder.

What are the pitfalls here that I am missing? More contam? Not enough lignin? Should I uses it like 50:50 with straw instead? Thanks for the advice!


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Re: Grain hulls/chaff as substrate [Re: flyontoast]
    #23908126 - 12/08/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

This would be some great information to share if anyone has it. I haven't had experience with using chaff as substrate, but my first concern would be in regards to it's moistened aggregate structure and moisture retention.


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Re: Grain hulls/chaff as substrate [Re: flyontoast]
    #23908131 - 12/08/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You would want to sterilize em. Give em a shot, at that price your sure to get a return on it. Is organic wheat bran available?

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Re: Grain hulls/chaff as substrate [Re: poponon]
    #23908461 - 12/08/16 09:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I found this:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14732277
"beta-Adenosine at 25 mg per kg wet wheat straw increased the yield of Pleurotus with 52% and the yield of Stropharia with 258%", which sounds absolutely crazy to get over %200 increase in yield. I can't access the entire article nor can I find any more information on said "Beta-adenosine". Don't know if it's to be found in most grass hulls or only this particular rye grass.


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Re: Grain hulls/chaff as substrate [Re: flyontoast]
    #23908595 - 12/08/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I use Organic Spelt hulls exclusively for growing Oysters. I love them. Easy to work with. They don't get trich hardly at all. I have about 2.5 years worth of yields in my notes and I get 1# per 1# dry substrate with a very high spawn ratio. Spawn is mixed in at 15L to 150# wet or 50# dry.  Makes 50 blocks (bags, each about 6L) Moisture retention is excellent and this yield is on three flushes first being about .5 or more. I haven't used any gypsum or chalk and don't water. Hot water bath pasteurized at 160 for 90 minutes. Drained for 1/2 hour then laid out on plastic 4x8 to cool and dry some. Spawned and mixed when cool enough then bagged and incubated for 2 weeks. $60 for about 800 pounds is what I pay including the tote.

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Re: Grain hulls/chaff as substrate [Re: Crispykoot]
    #23908621 - 12/08/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Grain hulls/chaff as substrate [Re: Crispykoot]
    #23909165 - 12/09/16 05:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Dam is that tote shipped to your door for $60. Can't beat that return

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Re: Grain hulls/chaff as substrate [Re: tump]
    #23909211 - 12/09/16 05:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Shipping will always be the biggest cost factor these days... $500 to get 4 totes to me in shipping... Still works out... $1.50 per pound covers all of my costs. I wholesale for 6-9 per pound on Oysters. Crazy. That's buying 3015 grain spawn. Profit margins are pretty big..If you know how to make spawn, it gets very workable.


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Re: Grain hulls/chaff as substrate [Re: Crispykoot]
    #23910369 - 12/09/16 02:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Dam is that tote shipped to your door for $60. Can't beat that return



That's without shipping. Ordering 3 or more totes comes to $50 each, but $CAN, so that's like $12US and hockey puck.


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I use Organic Spelt hulls exclusively for growing Oysters. I love them. Easy to work with. They don't get trich hardly at all. I have about 2.5 years worth of yields in my notes and I get 1# per 1# dry substrate with a very high spawn ratio. Spawn is mixed in at 15L to 150# wet or 50# dry.  Makes 50 blocks (bags, each about 6L) Moisture retention is excellent and this yield is on three flushes first being about .5 or more. I haven't used any gypsum or chalk and don't water. Hot water bath pasteurized at 160 for 90 minutes. Drained for 1/2 hour then laid out on plastic 4x8 to cool and dry some. Spawned and mixed when cool enough then bagged and incubated for 2 weeks. $60 for about 800 pounds is what I pay including the tote.



THANK YOU! Super helpful. I am making my own spawn, using both agar and LC (experimenting all winter and gonna stick with one method come spring). It's not so hard, and if you've got downtime this winter, you can surely get really good at it.
Are you in BC? Also, if you're ordering spawn, you probably don't buy your own grain then, but just in case: I can't find any organic grain for less than $47 for 20kg. You got any ideas where I could order from, and if you know anybody that produces sorghum/milo in ALL of Canada? I want some not only to make spawn but also to plant.

Also, gypsum might be worth it:
http://fst.sagepub.com/content/17/4/351.abstract
The full article says that, while 5% gypsum didn't necessarily increase %BE, it did increase the mushrooms ability to hold water (i.e., the final weight per mushroom), and it did increase the amount of mushrooms that had medium to large cap sizes (not not increased stems) and increases their firmness (again, stems stayed the same). Interestingly, the study recommended AGAINST the use of gypsum because the research was funded and intended to study CANNED oyster, so the larger cap size and water retention was not a desirable characteristic for canning. But larger, firmer oyster caps would certainly draw more attention from chefs and at markets, and the denser caps would also hold-up better when cooked fresh (and the water weight mean more $$$ for you).
I'll run my own trials eventually with my own strains to see if it actually makes a difference.


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Re: Grain hulls/chaff as substrate [Re: flyontoast]
    #23910742 - 12/09/16 04:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Rye through My supplier is cheaper. There are 3 choices that I know of. Organic Matters, Fieldstone Organics and I recently started using Schmidt organic out of Sask. About $35 Canadian for 20 KG. Fieldstone is the most expensive. Always happy to share what I am learning.


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Re: Grain hulls/chaff as substrate [Re: Crispykoot]
    #23910780 - 12/09/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hey Fly, I am looking for a new supplier for hulls. I just got fucked on 2 totes that came moldy...Seems like your pricing is better so It's likely a different place. If you have any ideas let me know...


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Re: Grain hulls/chaff as substrate [Re: flyontoast]
    #23910846 - 12/09/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Dam is that tote shipped to your door for $60. Can't beat that return



That's without shipping. Ordering 3 or more totes comes to $50 each, but $CAN, so that's like $12US and hockey puck.


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I use Organic Spelt hulls exclusively for growing Oysters. I love them. Easy to work with. They don't get trich hardly at all. I have about 2.5 years worth of yields in my notes and I get 1# per 1# dry substrate with a very high spawn ratio. Spawn is mixed in at 15L to 150# wet or 50# dry.  Makes 50 blocks (bags, each about 6L) Moisture retention is excellent and this yield is on three flushes first being about .5 or more. I haven't used any gypsum or chalk and don't water. Hot water bath pasteurized at 160 for 90 minutes. Drained for 1/2 hour then laid out on plastic 4x8 to cool and dry some. Spawned and mixed when cool enough then bagged and incubated for 2 weeks. $60 for about 800 pounds is what I pay including the tote.



THANK YOU! Super helpful. I am making my own spawn, using both agar and LC (experimenting all winter and gonna stick with one method come spring). It's not so hard, and if you've got downtime this winter, you can surely get really good at it.
Are you in BC? Also, if you're ordering spawn, you probably don't buy your own grain then, but just in case: I can't find any organic grain for less than $47 for 20kg. You got any ideas where I could order from, and if you know anybody that produces sorghum/milo in ALL of Canada? I want some not only to make spawn but also to plant.

Also, gypsum might be worth it:
http://fst.sagepub.com/content/17/4/351.abstract
The full article says that, while 5% gypsum didn't necessarily increase %BE, it did increase the mushrooms ability to hold water (i.e., the final weight per mushroom), and it did increase the amount of mushrooms that had medium to large cap sizes (not not increased stems) and increases their firmness (again, stems stayed the same). Interestingly, the study recommended AGAINST the use of gypsum because the research was funded and intended to study CANNED oyster, so the larger cap size and water retention was not a desirable characteristic for canning. But larger, firmer oyster caps would certainly draw more attention from chefs and at markets, and the denser caps would also hold-up better when cooked fresh (and the water weight mean more $$$ for you).
I'll run my own trials eventually with my own strains to see if it actually makes a difference.



i would suspect that the growing climate in CA isn't idea for milo, especially since it's a really low value (at least where I live).  I ordered rye and bran from Natural Way Mills, their prices were quite reasonable by the ton.  Maybe $0.25/lb before freight.


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Re: Grain hulls/chaff as substrate [Re: drake89]
    #23911117 - 12/09/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Hey Fly, I am looking for a new supplier for hulls. I just got fucked on 2 totes that came moldy...Seems like your pricing is better so It's likely a different place. If you have any ideas let me know...



Oh man, I hope that wasn't from Fieldstone, cause that's the company I am waiting to get a shipping quote from. Are they giving you your money back? They sell it as a feed supplement or bedding, both can't be moldy, so they should really do something for you.
I'll look into Schmidt's shipping price, and I'll for sure keep you in the loop if I find another supplier. Alternatively, it's worth looking into seed companies too. Rye is sold as a cover crop, and I've been using Van Dam winter rye and it's working great. But I still can't find anything less than $45 for 50#.

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i would suspect that the growing climate in CA isn't idea for milo, especially since it's a really low value (at least where I live).



Farmed in Canada have you? Grown lots of grain have you?


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Re: Grain hulls/chaff as substrate [Re: Crispykoot]
    #23911266 - 12/09/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I use Organic Spelt hulls exclusively for growing Oysters.





Wow crispy thanks for sharing all this info.

I would also be interested in testing out using chaff as substrate. Don't think I could use a whole ton fast enough that it wouldn't mold though.

Have you tried using wheat berries/kernals instead of rye? I think this place in Scarborough has some for pretty cheap but i'm not sure , the place is called Grain Process Enterprises. They carry bran too. EvilMushroom666 posted a few years back about getting the wheat kernals for 27$/55lb .. not sure if the price is still the same. definitely cheaper for me since it's within driving distance.


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Re: Grain hulls/chaff as substrate [Re: flyontoast]
    #23911447 - 12/09/16 08:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Hey Fly, I am looking for a new supplier for hulls. I just got fucked on 2 totes that came moldy...Seems like your pricing is better so It's likely a different place. If you have any ideas let me know...



Oh man, I hope that wasn't from Fieldstone, cause that's the company I am waiting to get a shipping quote from. Are they giving you your money back? They sell it as a feed supplement or bedding, both can't be moldy, so they should really do something for you.
I'll look into Schmidt's shipping price, and I'll for sure keep you in the loop if I find another supplier. Alternatively, it's worth looking into seed companies too. Rye is sold as a cover crop, and I've been using Van Dam winter rye and it's working great. But I still can't find anything less than $45 for 50#.

You should look for feed grade grain, it is dirtier but also a heck of a lot cheaper, at least where I live.  Also wheat and oats are a lot cheaper and about the same

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i would suspect that the growing climate in CA isn't idea for milo, especially since it's a really low value (at least where I live).



Farmed in Canada have you? Grown lots of grain have you?


Have not farmed in canada, but I have been to BC recently during the harvest.  My dad grows a few hundred acres of grain annually to feed his cattle.  Sorghum is a relative of sugar cane which does best in really HOT climates with a longer summer than you get.  Probably why you can't find it locally.  Even in the states it's $1/lb unless you know a farmer directly.  I'd look into millet if it's available.


http://www.agannex.com/research/sorghum-in-canada

Until recently, all sorghum and pearl millet grown in Canada was obtained from the U.S., which is grown in states where corn cannot be grown. In Canada, currently, only about 5,000-8,000 acres of sorghum is being grown in Eastern Canada, he adds. However, in 2013, 3,000 acres of production and demonstration plots were planted out west.

The problem with growing sorghum in Canada is one of maturity, as the plant need to dry and be ready to harvest in 95-115 days, says Kumar. "In years where there is not enough accumulation of hear (for example, if summer is cool), maturity of the grain is difficult. But, the issue of maturity is not a problem for forage and silage, only grian sorghum."

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Re: Grain hulls/chaff as substrate [Re: drake89]
    #23911646 - 12/09/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Have not farmed in canada, but I have been to BC recently during the harvest.  My dad grows a few hundred acres of grain annually to feed his cattle.  Sorghum is a relative of sugar cane which does best in really HOT climates with a longer summer than you get.  Probably why you can't find it locally.  Even in the states it's $1/lb unless you know a farmer directly.  I'd look into millet if it's available.

http://www.agannex.com/research/sorghum-in-canada

Until recently, all sorghum and pearl millet grown in Canada was obtained from the U.S., which is grown in states where corn cannot be grown. In Canada, currently, only about 5,000-8,000 acres of sorghum is being grown in Eastern Canada, he adds. However, in 2013, 3,000 acres of production and demonstration plots were planted out west.

The problem with growing sorghum in Canada is one of maturity, as the plant need to dry and be ready to harvest in 95-115 days, says Kumar. "In years where there is not enough accumulation of hear (for example, if summer is cool), maturity of the grain is difficult. But, the issue of maturity is not a problem for forage and silage, only grian sorghum."




Thanks, but I've done my research, a lot more than you are going to turn up in a quick google search. I worked with a guy who grew sorghum in OTTAWA, which has a much shorter, wetter summer than we get on our farm and micro-climate. With the west coast becoming more and more drought prone, sorghum may be the future of local grain, fodder, sugar, and flour. Obviously not any of the "round-up ready" varieties that are popular in the south. I know you've expressed your "disconcern" with environmentally conscious food production in other posts, but for people that might care, there are beautiful, organic, hybridized sorghum varieties that: produce a more nutritional grain than wheat (that is also gluten free), have leaves that make excellent fodder, do not require irrigation, whose stalks can be pressed for syrup, and have extensive root system that increase soil organic matter. It is the perfect all-in-one plant for any medium scale, diversified, vertically integrated farm that intends to continue providing a rounded diet to their local community in an uncertain future of climate change.


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Re: Grain hulls/chaff as substrate [Re: flyontoast]
    #23911686 - 12/09/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Dawg you are making a lot of assumptions about my views on organic ag.  There is no such thing as round up ready sorghum btw.  It's not a big enough cash crop for that kind of investment.  There's also no such thing as round ready wheat, which is a common misconception.  Round up ready is about to be phased out in favor of the more toxic 2,4D since weeds have evolved a lot faster than chemical companies 'anticpated'.

BTW I can be certified organic in US without using OG inputs as long as I don't apply chemicals in the grow room.  Pretty crazy huh?


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Re: Grain hulls/chaff as substrate [Re: drake89]
    #23911689 - 12/09/16 10:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Also I wasn't saying you can't grow warm weather grasses in canada, but it's hard so not many people do it.  Which is why it's expensive.


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Re: Grain hulls/chaff as substrate [Re: drake89]
    #23911907 - 12/10/16 12:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.monsanto.com/products/pages/sorghum.aspx

sorghum is used more as a cover crop in Canada than an actual grain crop, I live about an hour away from Ottawa. You can find 50lb bags of it at any feed store up here. Its more of a grain crop for the Sahel region of Sub-Saharan Africa - in which Monsanto (now FG Bayer) is pushing their GMO crops through parliament now (lived in Ghana for a while, its becoming a hot topic there).

as for using chaff as a substrate, I've only ever seen it used as an additive. That was rice chaff. perhaps your 50 - 50 mix with straw would be a good place to start along with a few comparison bags at 100% chaff and 10% chaff etc.


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Re: Grain hulls/chaff as substrate [Re: anthiawe]
    #23912307 - 12/10/16 07:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You don't need all certified inputs to operate under COR in Canada either. You do have to prove that said input is not prohibited and not available organically. That's how people use Amycel 3015 and can still be certified OG.


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