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Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff
    #23910236 - 12/09/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Im reassessing my filters as im getting a shit load of failures atm.  Im going to make an all about me video series of SAB work to be analysed, study my 12psi pressure cooker and nail this shit down once and for all.

To be honest im well read on this topic but in practice im average as a grower and I want to be great.

Can you help.


I have jars with Polyfil, micropore and this one ++

Reasons and experience of why you use what u use would help.


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: Edmunter]
    #23910260 - 12/09/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I was getting tons of failures from my filters.

I switched to sfds from poly and now 98% of my troubles are my own fault


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: Edmunter]
    #23910269 - 12/09/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)



Thread
(I update this thread soon because I have a new method to drill clean holes without needing fabric anymore...)

Made some new lids today:








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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: van hatton]
    #23910274 - 12/09/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I used polyfil for a couple years. The only problem people have with polyfil is user error.

Sfds poly tyvek all three will work

If one of them doesn't work for you, you're doing it wrong

Obviously people have a preference usually SFDs


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23910279 - 12/09/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The only problem people have with polyfil is user error.
If one of them doesn't work for you, you're doing it wrong




100% :whathesaid:


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23910280 - 12/09/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Micro pore tape or band aids


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: enlightenment]
    #23910282 - 12/09/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Thread
(I update this thread soon because I have a new method to drill clean holes without needing fabric anymore...)

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So these are good for LCs if you give them a good shake and they get wet?


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: Edmunter]
    #23910286 - 12/09/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Are Whatman clean?


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: enlightenment]
    #23910289 - 12/09/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Whatman may have some problems to provide enough GE for grain jars from what I read.


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23910292 - 12/09/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I prefer them for their consistency vs poly I too used poly for years no problems.


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: Edmunter]
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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: Edmunter]
    #23910297 - 12/09/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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So these are good for LCs if you give them a good shake and they get wet?




I like to use filter stickers. They are pretty expensive but I love them. They are good for LCs and for grain jars. If I don't have them around I use polyfill.



They are hydrophobic but I still tilt the jar that the liquid touches the silicone and not the filter material.


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: enlightenment]
    #23910319 - 12/09/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

So what should you be trying to do/not do when using filters for jars of grains inoculated with LI?LC and LI/ LC jars


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: Edmunter]
    #23910353 - 12/09/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Your filter should provide enough GE to colonize the jar completely. No problem with polyfill but I have seen posts with stalled jars from people that used syringe filters.
SFDs / CFDs / polyfill / micropore tape (I don't recommend micropore tape. Tried it with success some time ago but a lot of people report a higher contam rate) / syringe filters are common filter materials. All can be used with LC if you are careful.

BTW I just updated my thread about lids. Because I use a new drill.


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: enlightenment]
    #23910361 - 12/09/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

The only time i had issues with polly was when i got the thick stiff that almost felt like plastic


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: cronicr]
    #23910378 - 12/09/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

So for a LC jar that needs a good shake what do you use?


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: Edmunter]
    #23910385 - 12/09/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: Edmunter]
    #23910386 - 12/09/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The only time i had issues with polly was when i got the thick stiff that almost felt like plastic




What kind of issues did you have?
There are different kinds of polyfill. The user AlCapone used the stuff from the pillows and had a lot of problems to stuff the monotubs/jars right. I recommended to use fish tank filter material it is much more resistant but does not feel like plastic.
As I am not from America I don't know how the American polyfill feels like... This is what I like to use:

This:



Lifted this:




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So for a LC jar that needs a good shake what do you use?




I did not think about that because I use a magnetic stirrer.
You can shake the jar if you use a hydrophobic syringe filter.


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: enlightenment]
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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: enlightenment]
    #23910398 - 12/09/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Im not american either lol the thick stuff has a lot of memory is hard to work with i much prefer the stuff chicks use to wipe the lies off their face.


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: Th3Issu3]
    #23910410 - 12/09/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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That looks like its adjustable.... can you link me?


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: Edmunter]
    #23910425 - 12/09/16 02:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

expensive but reusable.


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: Th3Issu3]
    #23910429 - 12/09/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I just use micropore tape on everything :shrug:


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: Edmunter]
    #23910435 - 12/09/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Im reassessing my filters as im getting a shit load of failures atm.  Im going to make an all about me video series of SAB work to be analysed, study my 12psi pressure cooker and nail this shit down once and for all.

To be honest im well read on this topic but in practice im average as a grower and I want to be great.

Can you help.


I have jars with Polyfil, micropore and this one ++

Reasons and experience of why you use what u use would help.




This is a whatman but I never used it to inject.........

Fuk


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: enlightenment]
    #23910436 - 12/09/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Wouldnt it be nice if the filters on bags were available for jars...just slap a sticker on n done lol.


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #23910441 - 12/09/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I just use micropore tape on everything :shrug:




That's what I am always talking about :lol:
There are people who have a lot of success with micropore tape while others fail hard for some reason...
How many layers do you use?


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #23910446 - 12/09/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I just use micropore tape on everything :shrug:




Me too but with so man failures recently im deconstructing this shit completely


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: cronicr]
    #23910450 - 12/09/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Wouldnt it be nice if the filters on bags were available for jars...just slap a sticker on n done lol.




The filter stickers I use feel pretty much like bag filters. They are a little thinner. But the price is insane.. You almost get one bag for one filter sticker :lol:


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: Edmunter]
    #23910455 - 12/09/16 02:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I just use micropore tape on everything :shrug:




Me too but with so man failures recently im deconstructing this shit completely



Oysters will eat it...true story


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    #23910478 - 12/09/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I just use micropore tape on everything :shrug:




That's what I am always talking about :lol:
There are people who have a lot of success with micropore tape while others fail hard for some reason...
How many layers do you use?



3 layers prior to the pc run and 1 more piece added once after the pc run. I add the 4th piece just in case the tape breaks down at all during the pc cycle


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    #23910485 - 12/09/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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    #23910488 - 12/09/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Is he running oysters though?


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    #23910493 - 12/09/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Greedy fukkas

Im running everything


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: Edmunter]
    #23910503 - 12/09/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

They will push SFDs right off lids too.


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    #23910504 - 12/09/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Does this happen with fresh tape? I'm not sure if that tape is old or not, looks like it.


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    #23910515 - 12/09/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Is he running oysters though?



Idk he asked wut we use lol..they wer fresh..fuckers climbed over two inches above the grain ate the tape n found fresh air lol


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    #23910526 - 12/09/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

That's crazy, relentless bastards...


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    #23910534 - 12/09/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Cubensis v oyster for easier to grow?


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: Edmunter]
    #23910538 - 12/09/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

aggressive oysters :lol:
Interesting pictures :laugh:

I just grew them in bags. I think the filter was too high for them to reach it :lol:

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Cubensis v oyster for easier to grow?




cubensis.
oysters need a lot of FAE but they are still easy to grow.


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #23910542 - 12/09/16 02:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

polyfil. sometimes i use a tyvek cut square and 2 pieces of mp tape for plates or if im lazy.


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    #23910546 - 12/09/16 03:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Id say oysters but cubes may be easier to grow effectively


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    #23910554 - 12/09/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Next will be my SAB videos.  All the talk about coir not being able to get contaminated means something else is wrong.


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    #23910560 - 12/09/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Spotting contams can be tricky on plates.


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    #23910568 - 12/09/16 03:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)



Sfd's for me


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: Kenetic]
    #23910594 - 12/09/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

also
some people may be observant enough to notice
I say Polyfil
with one L not two like polyfill
poly-fil is name brand and that's what I'm talking about when I say polyfil works great


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: Edmunter]
    #23921591 - 12/13/16 02:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

So theses Whatman filter disks are cellulose which can contaminate.  SFDs are super expensive.

Where can u get polyfil?  1 L


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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: Edmunter]
    #23921932 - 12/13/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Can you post your favourite filters for jars, rounds and other stuff [Re: Kenetic]
    #23922575 - 12/13/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Nice write up, id like more info on whatman syringe filters and tyvek.  Ive read syringe filters can really slow up growth but are good for LC.

Also I saw Frank use a kind of metal tube like filter with polyfil in the end.


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