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poofterFroth
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Re: Commercial cultivation in a greenhouse? [Re: drake89]
#23931632 - 12/16/16 07:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mushrooms can very much so, be grown in a greenhouse. No doubt about it - despite what others are claiming...(most of them likely never having attempted it)
OP isn't trying to just blow out an entire 30x60 greenhouse with mushies. It's in addition to his veggies already in production.
I know of many farmers who regularly grow log shiitake fruited in their greenhouse. And oysters will grow just about anywhere, as will lions mane IME.
Some methods will have to be adapted to suit your greenhouse/setup. And you'll have to play around with the best placement such as maybe fruiting under plant tables to utilize shade and humidity. There's lots of ideas and ways you can make greenhouse mushrooms happen.
But for the record, I''m mostly against vegetable farmers with fancy greenhouses and money to throw around who wanna slice of the mushroom pie for a seemly "easy" additional profit..
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drake89
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Re: Commercial cultivation in a greenhouse? [Re: poofterFroth]
#23931664 - 12/16/16 07:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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poofterFroth said:
But for the record, I''m mostly against vegetable farmers with fancy greenhouses and money to throw around who wanna slice of the mushroom pie for a seemly "easy" additional profit.. 
yeah you know those vegetable farmers and their huge profits 
You do know the government will literally GIVE YOU a fucking $10,000 greenhouse if you fill out a bunch of paperwork and wait?
https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/wps/portal/nrcs/detailfull/national/programs/?cid=stelprdb1046250
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Crispykoot
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Re: Commercial cultivation in a greenhouse? [Re: poofterFroth]
#23931694 - 12/16/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The greenhouse thing seems good, but shipping containers are cheap. A 20 foot container backframed and insulated is a good option. You have a lot more environmental control year round. I use a screenhouse (walmart) for my 4th flush Oysters that can't take up any space indoors because of diminishing returns.
I can fit 200-250 3 pound Oyster blocks in 14 feet of one container. That produces 200-250 plus pounds of Oysters every 1.5 months. I have 2 containers also so that I can run Shiitake in one and Oyster in the other. You can grow them in the same space, I have done it quite a bit, but it's tricky and they can infect each other.
Moving forward, pouring and stick framing spaces seems better because in the end you back frame containers anyway.
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drake89
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Re: Commercial cultivation in a greenhouse? [Re: Crispykoot]
#23931750 - 12/16/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crispykoot said:
Moving forward, pouring and stick framing spaces seems better because in the end you back frame containers anyway.
that's why I opted for a building. Unless you can get refrigerated containers , by the time you build them out you could have built a bigger building. If you can do some of the work yourself, metal buildings are incredibly cheap per sq ft. Especially the aluminum framed "garage" type buildings, my wife and I put one up in a day.
A lot of the cost of cargo containers is due to the fact that they are made of structural steel, I believe several thousand pounds of metal. VS a few hundred for a similar sized sheet metal building.
http://watsonmetalsllc.com/pdf/GalvEconBrochureManchester.pdf
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Crispykoot
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Re: Commercial cultivation in a greenhouse? [Re: drake89]
#23932143 - 12/16/16 11:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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drake89 said:
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Crispykoot said:
Moving forward, pouring and stick framing spaces seems better because in the end you back frame containers anyway.
that's why I opted for a building. Unless you can get refrigerated containers , by the time you build them out you could have built a bigger building. If you can do some of the work yourself, metal buildings are incredibly cheap per sq ft. Especially the aluminum framed "garage" type buildings, my wife and I put one up in a day.
A lot of the cost of cargo containers is due to the fact that they are made of structural steel, I believe several thousand pounds of metal. VS a few hundred for a similar sized sheet metal building.
http://watsonmetalsllc.com/pdf/GalvEconBrochureManchester.pdf
The metal buildings are ok IMO. I have a quonset that I put up...Might be better in a more temperate climate like where you are. When you say aluminum framed, do you mean aluminum studs?
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Crispykoot
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Re: Commercial cultivation in a greenhouse? [Re: Crispykoot]
#23932150 - 12/16/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sorry. Just checked the link...Little slow today.
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drake89
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Re: Commercial cultivation in a greenhouse? [Re: Crispykoot]
#23932195 - 12/16/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crispykoot said: Sorry. Just checked the link...Little slow today.
if you're look for most sq ft for your $, I think a double walled insulated high tunnel/hoop house structure is the best bet. assuming you aren't having super high winds.
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