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    #23807069 - 11/06/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hey guys,

There is something I'd like to know. For those who don't know, I have been getting flashbacks during my sleep since my last trip 2 months ago. They were quite intense at times. They are only very mild at this time, but this post isn't about my 'health'.

The flashbacks are something different every time they occur. A lot of times I know I'm just 'flying off' into other dimensions during these flashbacks. Like, last night, when I was dozing off, I remember I was thinking about what dimension I was gonna go to this time. It's strange because I don't even comprehend these things in my 'non-sleep consciousness'. I also feel I'm in more of an ego-less space, from what I can remember of it. A lot of times I only remember leaving some sort of dimension/space, knowing that I'm going to forget I'm god once I'm awake again.

I guess a lot of people would probably think I have some mental issues if I'd tell them. I'm pretty sure its all real though, hence why I'm posting this in the spirituality section. But one of these 'flashbacks' was just out of this world. I mean, that is the only flashback where I feel I remember where I went.

That night, I went to bed and started to dose off again. The next thing I remember is that I was in this 'black space', although it wasn't space. It wasn't 'somewhere else' either. In that moment there was no such thing as - or concept of space (and time ofc). The reality we live in was presented as some white thing that was some sort of unexplainable shape, but it was kind of like an extremely thin and finite frame or dot in an endless sea of infinite blackness that I could manipulate in any way imaginable. Oh, and yes, it should go without saying that I was god, or the one (and only) consciousness.

Guys... As far as I can tell, I feel as if I've been outside all of reality. Like, this reality, we all wonder about its majesty, how endless it seemingly is. I mean, we don't can't even see a significant portion of the galaxy with our telescopes. Yet, all of reality is just finite, in comparison with the infinite blackness I was in, it was infinite possibility. I mean, theoretically everything is possible, yet we chose to live inside some sort of reality where the illusion of finiteness plays a role. I can never explain this unfortunately.

What I'm asking is, has anyone ever been there? In that blackness where reality looks like nothing more than a white pixel on a black movie theather screen? Ever since that happened to me I can't escape the though/knowingness of the fact that we are in some sort of 'matrix'. Meaning we live in some sort of dream. The dream we chose to experience, is nothing more than a thought I guess... The hardest part of this is that there isn't even someone who can relate in my life. I mean, I have friends who use psychedelics, but they haven't actually taken them very far.

Anyway, if you think you can relate, please let me know. There is probably no way of knowing whether I really was outside all of reality or that maybe that was still only a part of it. It would be impossible to even categorize the utter scale of the experience. I don't even know if that was really where I was or maybe it was just a memory of myself from before I entered this reality. But I'd still like to know if you think you've been there. Please let me know. :wink:


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It doesn't matter whether you look out to the stars, or under a microscope to the tiniest of particles.
It doesn't even matter what kind of practice you perform to reach your goal.
Because if you keep looking, everything eventually leads to the same truth, like a fractal that contains itself in every direction you take it.
You will find yourself.

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Re: Has anyone been here? [Re: lovuasca] * 1
    #23807090 - 11/06/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, don't ask me why, but everybody has been there, everybody is there now. But I'm wondering whether you have some sort of memory of it.

Thanks.


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It doesn't matter whether you look out to the stars, or under a microscope to the tiniest of particles.
It doesn't even matter what kind of practice you perform to reach your goal.
Because if you keep looking, everything eventually leads to the same truth, like a fractal that contains itself in every direction you take it.
You will find yourself.

I love you.

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Re: Has anyone been here? [Re: lovuasca]
    #23807297 - 11/06/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Nope, but I've often wondered how it all looks from that perspective. Thank you for sharing.

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Re: Has anyone been here? [Re: gekkogecko]
    #23852197 - 11/20/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Has anyone been here? [Re: lovuasca]
    #23852290 - 11/20/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

in some spiritual teachings it's said that we travel to the inner planes (non-physical dimensions) at night while we sleep, and from these "places" we learn and interact with guides, teachers, masters, etc. I've heard the idea that we can be enrolled in different "classes and schools" at night, and that the learning impacts our life in this waking reality (which itself is a school of sorts too) :smile: i guess you could call sleeping "night school" :grin:


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Re: Has anyone been here? [Re: deff]
    #23852658 - 11/20/16 08:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Viharra Sutra : Dwellings

"Monks, there are these nine step-by-step dwellings. Which nine? The first jhāna, the second jhāna, the third jhāna, the fourth jhāna, the dimension of the infinitude of space, the dimension of the infinitude of consciousness, the dimension of nothingness, the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception, the cessation of perception & feeling. These are the nine step-by-step dwellings." [1]

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This translation follows the Thai edition of the Pali Canon, which is identical with the Burmese edition here. The PTS edition, following the Sri Lankan edition, includes the standard formulae for the nine dwellings, as follows:

"Monks, there are these nine step-by-step dwellings. Which nine?

"There is the case where a monk, quite secluded from sensuality, secluded from unskillful mental qualities, enters & remains in the first jhāna: rapture & pleasure born of seclusion, accompanied by directed thought & evaluation.

"With the stilling of directed thoughts & evaluations, he enters & remains in the second jhāna: rapture & pleasure born of concentration, unification of awareness free from directed thought & evaluation — internal assurance.

"With the fading of rapture, he remains equanimous, mindful, & alert, and senses pleasure with the body. He enters & remains in the third jhāna, of which the noble ones declare, 'Equanimous & mindful, he has a pleasant abiding.'

"With the abandoning of pleasure & pain — as with the earlier disappearance of joy & distress — he enters & remains in the fourth jhāna: purity of equanimity & mindfulness, neither-pleasure-nor-pain.

"With the complete transcending of perceptions of form, with the disappearance of perceptions of resistance, and not heeding perceptions of diversity, (perceiving,) 'Infinite space,' he enters & remains in the dimension of the infinitude of space.

"With the complete transcending of the dimension of the infinitude of space, (perceiving,) 'Infinite consciousness,' he enters & remains in the dimension of the infinitude of consciousness.

"With the complete transcending of the dimension of the infinitude of consciousness, (perceiving,) 'There is nothing,' he enters & remains in the dimension of nothingness.

"With the complete transcending of the dimension of nothingness, he enters & remains in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception.

"With the complete transcending of the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception, he enters & remains in the cessation of perception & feeling.

"These are the nine step-by-step dwellings."


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Re: Has anyone been here? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23852837 - 11/20/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

The Blind Ass said:
Viharra Sutra : Dwellings

"Monks, there are these nine step-by-step dwellings. Which nine? The first jhāna, the second jhāna, the third jhāna, the fourth jhāna, the dimension of the infinitude of space, the dimension of the infinitude of consciousness, the dimension of nothingness, the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception, the cessation of perception & feeling. These are the nine step-by-step dwellings." [1]

Note

1.
This translation follows the Thai edition of the Pali Canon, which is identical with the Burmese edition here. The PTS edition, following the Sri Lankan edition, includes the standard formulae for the nine dwellings, as follows:

"Monks, there are these nine step-by-step dwellings. Which nine?

"There is the case where a monk, quite secluded from sensuality, secluded from unskillful mental qualities, enters & remains in the first jhāna: rapture & pleasure born of seclusion, accompanied by directed thought & evaluation.

"With the stilling of directed thoughts & evaluations, he enters & remains in the second jhāna: rapture & pleasure born of concentration, unification of awareness free from directed thought & evaluation — internal assurance.

"With the fading of rapture, he remains equanimous, mindful, & alert, and senses pleasure with the body. He enters & remains in the third jhāna, of which the noble ones declare, 'Equanimous & mindful, he has a pleasant abiding.'

"With the abandoning of pleasure & pain — as with the earlier disappearance of joy & distress — he enters & remains in the fourth jhāna: purity of equanimity & mindfulness, neither-pleasure-nor-pain.

"With the complete transcending of perceptions of form, with the disappearance of perceptions of resistance, and not heeding perceptions of diversity, (perceiving,) 'Infinite space,' he enters & remains in the dimension of the infinitude of space.

"With the complete transcending of the dimension of the infinitude of space, (perceiving,) 'Infinite consciousness,' he enters & remains in the dimension of the infinitude of consciousness.

"With the complete transcending of the dimension of the infinitude of consciousness, (perceiving,) 'There is nothing,' he enters & remains in the dimension of nothingness.

"With the complete transcending of the dimension of nothingness, he enters & remains in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception.

"With the complete transcending of the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception, he enters & remains in the cessation of perception & feeling.

"These are the nine step-by-step dwellings."



Magical number 9.


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Re: Has anyone been here? [Re: phio]
    #23853664 - 11/21/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Also, since I seem to have forgotten to mention it, the experience was completely devoid of fear. The whole concept of it seemed instinctively illogical.

And thanks, The Blind Ass.


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It doesn't matter whether you look out to the stars, or under a microscope to the tiniest of particles.
It doesn't even matter what kind of practice you perform to reach your goal.
Because if you keep looking, everything eventually leads to the same truth, like a fractal that contains itself in every direction you take it.
You will find yourself.

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Re: Has anyone been here? [Re: lovuasca]
    #23855355 - 11/21/16 07:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

My fellow Shroomer ....I think the place you may have visited is
Point Consciousness.


I reach that spot from time to time in very deep meditation.

What it feels like for me when I reach that zone is;

- I am no longer aware of my physical body whatsoever and feel a sense of great expanse.

- The zone I occupy appears to be void of really everything except me.
It is pitch black, however I have the ability to see, even though there is nothing out there in the distance to observe.
I can sense during the experience there that the region is quite vast. However, it is completely black and void of all matter.

-  During the time which I appear to occupy this region, my mind is very quiet. One way I kind of describe it, is like laying in the bathtub sometimes when you eyes are closed and most of the head is submerged and there is relaxation.

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Re: Has anyone been here? [Re: lovuasca]
    #23855568 - 11/21/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Lovuasca,

Dreaming is a state of being. That state of being has a lot to do with you as a person consciously, and unconsciously. The odds are that you have walked through a certain door, that lead you somewhere else. 99% of dreams are not remembered/remember-able. These are psychic dreams that you are having, By psychic, I mean, you brought yourself into this conclusion of dreams.
Yes it is even considered "lucid" for the fact you remember the dream, there was a moment of slight consciousness in these moments therefore making your Dream Lucid. Lucid dreaming is not necessarily waking up and roaming around in your dreams for minutes or even hours. Lucid dreaming can be as small as peering your conscious eye into the void just enough to remember the experience, maybe even changing an event or two.
If this has sparked your interest maybe invest into it? Try buying a book on dreaming. Maybe more so lucid dreaming. Dreams are gateways of the soul. And can be very entertaining and resourceful to anybody. Use this as potential to do something with your profound experiences.

Dreams come in many shapes forms and sizes, The one who has a bigger imagination, has a bigger dream. Be more consciously aware, an become more capable. As you become more conscious and more aware, You will be able to better yourself inside your DreamSpace. Know that these places you get to are not impossible. That these places you remember are hard to attain with conscious act, but never impossible. These out of this world dreams are often caught in the (near-ish) Future, rather than close by. Keep your hopes up. Dreams are a whole wide wonder that should be explored by enthused people.

Im looking at reading a book in the near future called Dreams That Stuff is Made of. Its a physics book, But Dreams are a lot like physics one might say.

Have Sincere Love Ahead Of You!
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Re: Has anyone been here? [Re: Vitalux]
    #23855592 - 11/21/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

littleton... you rock, you crazy dreamer. praise be the imagination!

Quote:

Vitalux said:
My fellow Shroomer ....I think the place you may have visited is
Point Consciousness.


I reach that spot from time to time in very deep meditation.

What it feels like for me when I reach that zone is;

- I am no longer aware of my physical body whatsoever and feel a sense of great expanse.

- The zone I occupy appears to be void of really everything except me.
It is pitch black, however I have the ability to see, even though there is nothing out there in the distance to observe.
I can sense during the experience there that the region is quite vast. However, it is completely black and void of all matter.

-  During the time which I appear to occupy this region, my mind is very quiet. One way I kind of describe it, is like laying in the bathtub sometimes when you eyes are closed and most of the head is submerged and there is relaxation.

:lamastare:




Ah yes, I know that state. I used to reach it when I meditated for 1-2 hours a day in my late teens, early twenties. At first, thoughts and dream-like hypnagogic consciousness would bubble up in the mind... thought-forms, ideas, senses... after about 15 minutes, there started to be a space in the chaos. Another 15 minutes in, totally focused on the breath, the physical body and simple silence.

Then.. the crescendo - total oneness with your surrounding. A peace floods your consciousness. Love. Stillness. Your body is everything! What a radical state. Cool. :cheers:


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Re: Has anyone been here? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #23856828 - 11/22/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I think everyone's interpretation of what happens to them is different, and how they part together the matrix they live in, different terms etc and ways of arriving upon realization.

In the end we are all a mere perspective of the same grand Dream.

I've never been to the specific zone you speak of but I have my own reality confined within the matrix. I never really focus on what I see either, I'm a feeler, a healer. I could meditate for 2 hours and would just reach a point of peace within 20 minutes, just feels like connection to higher self, oneness, or a microdose of Mushrooms but it never goes beyond that, the feeling of Love could grow until I fully embrace that one sense, but that all it ever does. I never see anything, it's always just black. If I want to see I will see through visions portrayed by my imagination


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In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser
In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter
As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms
And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply
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Re: Has anyone been here? [Re: littleton]
    #23857235 - 11/22/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

littleton said:
Lovuasca,

Dreaming is a state of being. That state of being has a lot to do with you as a person consciously, and unconsciously. The odds are that you have walked through a certain door, that lead you somewhere else. 99% of dreams are not remembered/remember-able. These are psychic dreams that you are having, By psychic, I mean, you brought yourself into this conclusion of dreams.
Yes it is even considered "lucid" for the fact you remember the dream, there was a moment of slight consciousness in these moments therefore making your Dream Lucid. Lucid dreaming is not necessarily waking up and roaming around in your dreams for minutes or even hours. Lucid dreaming can be as small as peering your conscious eye into the void just enough to remember the experience, maybe even changing an event or two.
If this has sparked your interest maybe invest into it? Try buying a book on dreaming. Maybe more so lucid dreaming. Dreams are gateways of the soul. And can be very entertaining and resourceful to anybody. Use this as potential to do something with your profound experiences.

Dreams come in many shapes forms and sizes, The one who has a bigger imagination, has a bigger dream. Be more consciously aware, an become more capable. As you become more conscious and more aware, You will be able to better yourself inside your DreamSpace. Know that these places you get to are not impossible. That these places you remember are hard to attain with conscious act, but never impossible. These out of this world dreams are often caught in the (near-ish) Future, rather than close by. Keep your hopes up. Dreams are a whole wide wonder that should be explored by enthused people.

Im looking at reading a book in the near future called Dreams That Stuff is Made of. Its a physics book, But Dreams are a lot like physics one might say.

Have Sincere Love Ahead Of You!
~Bunny



I'm afraid a book on dreaming might not really help. I don't really consider the experience a dream.
First of all, I call it a flashback since, like other flashbacks I have/had sometimes, they feel distinctly different from the dreams I have the same night.
Second of all, I'm pretty sure this would never have happened if I didn't experiment with psychedelics. Therefore I'm afraid such a book wont necessarily help, I guess it wouldn't have the right angle to understand the phenomena. Not that a book on (lucid) dreams wouldn't be interesting. :P Anyway, I feel I might have opened some door. I've heard a few other people that mentioned they went back to DMT-space during their sleep/dreams after having taken it.

Actually, some other interesting 'flashback' occurred to me last night, and others before as well.
Last night I felt like I wasn't really in a mind-space I wanted to be in. So in my dream (or how we normally experience a dream) I was thinking about this, and I decided for some reason to travel into higher dimensions in order to fix that, for whathever reason that was a logical thing to do. So I went, well, into some higher dimension the first time, but I figured I could go much higher, and so I went. I only remember when I got in the first higher dimension and when I got back down into that one again. A realization came to me in that dimension that I was like a bundle of light, that everytime it went down a lower dimension, was like taking one ray of it. The next lower dimension I would enter would do the same to me, the ray of light can be considered a bundle again and we take just one ray. This must have happened like at least 5 times if not more.
When I came back, I was in the reality of being awake as we call it, and I felt changed. Today was a blissful day.

It seems that lately, everytime I have one of this flashbacks they are of quite a spiritual nature. A while back I had one just before falling asleep, while still partly in my body.
A being came to me. It seemed to have a head of an 6-pointed star (made of two triangles exactly like the jewish star), with an eye in it. Under it it had a long golden body, I knew it was a body but it didn't look like a (humanoid type of) body. I remember having had a short discussion on the meaning of love.
The one thing though is that the night before that happened I was reading about similar beings. But even than, it felt so real it must have been true. The next day I was really changed in some way again.

Anyway, out of all my experiences ever, it feels as if the experience I try to describe in my first post, is the most real of all. All dreams, flashbacks, most psychedelic trips and this waking reality seem but just a dull 'dream' compared to that. But I must admit that at some point it just becomes impossible to judge an experience on profoundness, or how real it was. I'm afraid my human mind is incapable of it.


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Re: Has anyone been here? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #23857919 - 11/22/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I had a dream vision I was dying on a cross. Looked left, looked right... saw the same thing endlessly like a room full of mirrors. I'm really not a fan of dreaming as mine are seldom what people would consider "good."

"I'm afraid my human mind is incapable of it."

It absolutely is, but it also isn't. Your "human" mind is looking for answers to things it cannot comprehend or it isn't ready for. 

I don't get into other dimensions and all that crap. We're here and that's that. The Spirit moves on and blah blah blah.

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EternalCowabunga said:
Ah yes, I know that state. I used to reach it when I meditated for 1-2 hours a day in my late teens, early twenties. At first, thoughts and dream-like hypnagogic consciousness would bubble up in the mind... thought-forms, ideas, senses... after about 15 minutes, there started to be a space in the chaos. Another 15 minutes in, totally focused on the breath, the physical body and simple silence.

Then.. the crescendo - total oneness with your surrounding. A peace floods your consciousness. Love. Stillness. Your body is everything! What a radical state. Cool. :cheers:




This is essentially what you're looking for. However, I would suggest taking it a step further. Surrender your ego to the Spirit. It's hard. Takes practice and a lot of wisdom to make it through the deception. Not to be done lightly.


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"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle

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"Each tear is a drop of poison released." - Anonymous

"Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say if they knew you believe in God above? They should realize before they criticize that God is the only way to Love."


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Re: Has anyone been here? [Re: phio]
    #23860673 - 11/23/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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phio said:




Ok, so, now this happened to me last night...
I was dreaming about that I was in a car with my step-dad. We were talking about psychedelics, and he obviously had negative opinions about it. So after that talk, I started thinking what psychedelics have actually done for me. That's when another 'flashback' happened. In the dream I started to rehash what my experience was on one ayahuasca trip. I started to get into a state of magenta color madness. It was again, as if the movie stopped for a minute. The 'movie' we call life, reality, or everything we ever knew. Guys, this was no dream no more... For a moment I was back into some sort of conscioussness that I know very well to be 'real'. Meaning although I don't fathom it now, I just knew it to be the realest thing I knew at that moment. It was 'home', actually. My thoughts dissolved from some sort of liniear and chronological way of thinking to having one single thought, that felt like to most intense thought I've ever had. There was no such thing as a visual world as we know it, all is seen/known/felt, no actually all is really just thought. In that moment I was infinite (yeah, I know, again, but for some reason it is not really comparable to the experience in the OP) consciousness, one consciousness (of course).

What I saw is, well, something very much like the picture I quoted. I saw two balls, or kind of like ying yang objects rotating like that. Like a binary star system, yes. To me it was the representation of duality. It was very clear to me at that moment that I created that scene. It was a thought construct, duality it is. And I am pretending it to be real. The thought I had was: "Let's pretend this is real." We are believing in the concept of duality, and that is what seems to be at the core of this reality. I felt like I witnessed the beginning of the universe. I simply can not relay this experience (again), my... (sigh).
Anyway, when I say "I", I mean me, you, everything. We created this thought construct guys. And for whatever reason you decided to be in here, I salute you, as together we will learn to defeat this construct and learn to live in love, the original thought (as quoted from the law of one :P), again.

Also, I have no christian background, but everyone knows the following passage:
Quote:


In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.




I don't know what the heavens and the earth have to do with this, but I guess it is a remnant of how people at those times could try to comprehend these concepts.
Anyway, my point is, it says god started with light, and then seperated it from the darkness (creating duality), possibly to experience light in its extremity. However, it seems to me that has been our downfall. This is something that popped in my mind today.

Anyway, thanks for reading my experience. I feel as I'm having these flashbacks, I'm actually slowly processing everything from the trip I had that actually caused these flashbacks. I just couldn't deal with the experience of the trip at the time, I know that's for sure. I was also afraid that I was going to remember the experience, but as I'm slowly remembering it now I see it is only for the better. I just miss my old self. I'll never be the same again. I opened Pandora's box and, I can never go back again. :wink: But I feel better, more of love now.


Edited by lovuasca (11/23/16 01:40 PM)


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Re: Has anyone been here? [Re: lovuasca]
    #23886709 - 12/02/16 06:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Just a thought on the biblical quote. Have you heard the statement "As above so below?" In the sense that there is a macrocosmos above - heavenly bodies, stars, galaxies etc. Microcosmos below - humans, rest of animal life, plant life etc.

A lot of fundamental interpretations of biblical passages seem short sighted. Duality exists outside of us as day and night. Within, the power of light illuminates the darkness. The concept of right and wrong within is based on our "I"- dentification with external things. I like this and not that. "I" is never constant. Hence our duality. A universal "I" that does not change and includes everything is a spiritual achievement.

That kind of awareness can begin with self observation. Observing how our personalities or "I"s are there on an internal level befriending and fighting one another. To externalise them and take it seriously is true psychopathy.

These personalities are false. They have been formed emotionally and intellectually by people we have met throughout our lives. We imitate them on an inner level. This creates inner conflict because often these personalities are hostile to one another on an inner level.

Then we externalise them when someone presses our "buttons" usually in an emotional way. People call this life but it is hypnosis. All we strive for and achieve is done under the power of this hypnosis.

Anyway all my crap aside, flashback states from drugs and sex as well can take me to another place that seems more magical and real than every day existence. Messages are picked up on an instinctive level. Heaps faster than trying to reason everything out. Symbolism becomes more obvious. Names and numbers start to have deeper meanings. Hope those states stay with you.:heart:


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Re: Has anyone been here? [Re: lovuasca]
    #23903658 - 12/07/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I look for these types of experiences sometimes.  It never really occurs.  I've looked for them and somewhat remember they exists, since I can first remember.  I have sorta given up on finding purpose with it.  So much of the world takes their religion and vision 100% as the sole truth.  So it's not really worth it to me to interact with the world on any spiritual basis. 

All in all it can probably fuck your ego up.  Traveling astral realms is no easy task.  Don't lose your ego driven life and be some babbling homeless guy that thinks he's Jesus.


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Re: Has anyone been here? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23909081 - 12/09/16 02:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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