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we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly.
#23908612 - 12/08/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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First what i mean more friendly is ease of access to material and ease of use.
1. Replace common agar prepour. Replace it to corn meal tek. In case of truoble finding agar agar.
2. Replace common lc recipe teks. Instead of simple sugars we should switch them to grain water lc, brf lc, corn strach lc. All which can be pressure cook long period of time without destroying it usefulness.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: tump] 1
#23908630 - 12/08/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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No No No
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: azur]
#23908658 - 12/08/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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the journey is a big part. dont want to make it too easy. but i wish the really old and outdated stuff was labeled better. like a water marked background.
but i found out the secrets of the shroomery and its not for everyone to know.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: mushboy]
#23908782 - 12/08/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I know what you mean on the old old stuff. Even in rr vidoes he talks about glovebox use and many other crap we would cut the balls off if recordment now. But we should make as easy as possible.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: tump] 1
#23908796 - 12/08/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Make what as easy as what? Replace what where when? There are already teks for all that shit you just mentioned. Sure we can't all have government grants but some of us like agar and LC.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Pastywhyte] 1
#23908874 - 12/08/16 11:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree. The first couple months, I wasted so much time doing teks that were out-dated and buying shit I didn't need.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: AK1000]
#23908918 - 12/09/16 12:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't think agar will ever be replaced, its the standard.
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AK1000 said: I agree. The first couple months, I wasted so much time doing teks that were out-dated and buying shit I didn't need.
How much research did you do before jumping in though?
I find that teks are a fad, but in reality theres no wrong way to grow ...well except for ways that cause contamination lol
Edited by Intelligentxfruit2 (12/09/16 12:18 AM)
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Intelligentxfruit2]
#23909030 - 12/09/16 01:47 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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How much research did you do before jumping in though?
I read a fuckload every night. I read like an assasin.
I started with the teks at the top of the site where you hover over "Mushroom info" and "growing mushrooms" and read everything there, which has out-dated stuff.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: AK1000]
#23909065 - 12/09/16 02:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Agar and malt extract are not difficult things to find. I fail to see how they're difficult to use also, you literally just add water.
Besides there are a very wide variety of agar substitute teks already. Same goes for LC.
Edited by Greg (12/09/16 02:32 AM)
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Greg]
#23909074 - 12/09/16 02:45 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tbh I find it far easier to fuck up a cornmeal/ brf paste agar substitute prep than an agar prep. You'd have to be seriously retarted to not be able to whip up a batch of no-pour agar plates if simple directions are followed.
Agar is accessible to everyone and if for whatever reason you can't find it locally there's always the internet. Also, agar can be prepared using a lot of different nutes (malt extract, BRF, potato flakes, dog food, grain water...) so you don't depend on the availability of only one or two nute sources.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Greg]
#23909079 - 12/09/16 02:56 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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No one recommends the another teks to noobs. I live in a city of almost a million people in which i can count the number of places that carry agar anything on one hand. 2 out of 3 dont even restock. There is one wine and beer making shop which is the only place that has malt. Yes that includes health food atores, asian markets and alike. Finding agar/ malt is impossible to large amount of population. But you can go to any grocery store and pick up corn meal, corn starch or anything i listed. The main reason people use bird seed besides more inoculation points is ease of access.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: tump]
#23909087 - 12/09/16 03:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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im in a city of 1.5m, and we have 2 whole foods and a chinatown off the top of my head. not to mention, the vietnam part of town, korean, etc. I can get live chickens freshly decapitated for god sakes. if ur in a big city, i'd think most TEKs expect poo would be accessible.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: tump]
#23909118 - 12/09/16 04:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can't see what your working with on corn meal, that stuff is for a third + transfer LI's. AGar is not hard to find. We live in the age of the internet. I think it is smart noob friendly around here tump.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
#23909301 - 12/09/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your title makes no sense. Everything under the title also makes no sense. I can see why you opted out of the rating system....
I used to think everyone was being hard on you but after reading multiple fucking retarded posts from you I can see why....
Btw if anyone really wants to succeed in this hobby they will find a way to get what they need.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Kenetic]
#23909329 - 12/09/16 07:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh bull shit that noobs will find there way in this hobby. How many times a week do you and i reply to some noob who "read the forums like crazy" but still by a kit. Then bicth about how the kit fails them. People are lazy as shit, they want to succeed. But it's to hard for them to get what they need. Probably For ever 10 growers that do things the right ways theres 10 thar don't. And those 10 that don't just give up after there frist few trys.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: tump]
#23909336 - 12/09/16 07:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fuck them then
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: tump]
#23909355 - 12/09/16 07:40 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dude tump, I've been nice to you so far. But you need to STFU. Send me pics of your awesome teks and maybe I'll take you seriously. I live in a small/medium sized area in a rural part of the USA and have NO problem finding agar agar and potato flakes. I don't think I've EVER seen anything other than whining and bitching from you. Go sit at the kids table. Dick
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
#23909382 - 12/09/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Amazon sells agar, idk why everyone has to pick it up from a store when nearly every supply can be ordered online for cheap.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Kenetic]
#23909383 - 12/09/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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what ya mean with replace teks? there are already teks like the ones you mention, so buy replace do you mean delete all teks on agar and LC? this makes no sense to me.. the stuff you mention arent more "friendly" than any other teks out there 
also agar can be found anywhere, if you're really unlucky and cant get it locally there's still internet. you know, the thing you use to access the shroomery.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
#23909392 - 12/09/16 07:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I guess I have a hard time seeing agar as being hard. I started agar before I had finished my first pf tek. In fact I cloned my first fruits from that grow to agar. Keep in mind that this was before frank had written any of his teks let alone SBJs collection or the army of vets and TC's answering questions daily.
The only people who have issues either live in the 3rd world or a incredibly lazy.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: spacechildo] 1
#23909394 - 12/09/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: The Mycologist]
#23909429 - 12/09/16 08:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Mycologist said: Amazon sells agar, idk why everyone has to pick it up from a store when nearly every supply can be ordered online for cheap.
Agar from a health food store is always going to be much more expensive gram to gram than what you can find online.
This is it for me: -50 grams of agar from local health food store: 6 euros and shitty quality. -Bottle of 500 grams of agar from Ebay: 15 euros and excellent quality.
Edited, I wrote 20 grams from local health food store but I just took a look at the package and it says 50 grams
Edited by Josex (12/09/16 08:17 AM)
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Josex]
#23909461 - 12/09/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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There already pretty noob friendly I had 55 year old drunk ass man following the teks
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: AK1000]
#23909475 - 12/09/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tell me about the wasted money...I spent over $150 between jars, supplies, syringes etc and got an eighth my first grow.
2 years later, I'm using about $4 worth of supplies and getting ounces.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: tump] 1
#23909499 - 12/09/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: amidogen] 3
#23909540 - 12/09/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If anything we should raise the floor and make it harder as to weed out people like OP
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Josex]
#23909640 - 12/09/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Josex said: Agar from a health food store is always going to be much more expensive gram to gram than what you can find online.
This is it for me: -50 grams of agar from local health food store: 6 euros and shitty quality. -Bottle of 500 grams of agar from Ebay: 15 euros and excellent quality.
Edited, I wrote 20 grams from local health food store but I just took a look at the package and it says 50 grams 
I can get 1kg of laboratory grade agar for £33.04, or 100g lab grade for £5.44. Also I can get 1kg pharmaceutical grade 240B gelatin for £13.99.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: bodhisatta]
#23909651 - 12/09/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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you know some people have thought the same thing tump is saying(i guess)
they write teks.
tump -why dont you rewrite some teks? instead of just saying it why dont you do it? i can only imagine thats why we have the awesome catalogs from sbj/frank/whoever. none of it is SUPER mind blowing advancements just rewritten from the point of view of experienced growers with lots trail and error im sure.
grab a pen and paper tump and get to work. start with a brf agar tek. im kind of clueless about them. once i tried a brf paste but it got funky.

ill be eagerly awaiting 'tump does brf agar 2.0 tek' dont forget lots of pictures to help noobs. dont make it wordy either. thanks in advance. ill give you 5 shroom rating when you post it. thanks bro(oh wait i cant)
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: bodhisatta]
#23909668 - 12/09/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said: If anything we should raise the floor and make it harder as to weed out people like OP
Exactly
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Ferather]
#23909671 - 12/09/16 10:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ferather said:
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Josex said: Agar from a health food store is always going to be much more expensive gram to gram than what you can find online.
This is it for me: -50 grams of agar from local health food store: 6 euros and shitty quality. -Bottle of 500 grams of agar from Ebay: 15 euros and excellent quality.
Edited, I wrote 20 grams from local health food store but I just took a look at the package and it says 50 grams 
I can get 1kg of laboratory grade agar for £33.04, or 100g lab grade for £5.44. Also I can get 1kg pharmaceutical grade 240B gelatin for £13.99.
You mean online? If so, sharing is caring ma dud
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Ferather] 1
#23909675 - 12/09/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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anyone who's tried working with the brf paste knows very well why we prefer agar instead once I upgraded it was like a dream.. much easier to keep a good sterile tech if you arent spending so much energy trying to keep your wedge together and not just smear it all over the blade.
It may just be a language barrier thing since tump doesnt speak english but when he says replace teks I figure he means delete old teks/teks he doesnt like? because all the stuff he mentions there is already teks for.. 
Josex, 2x 500g agar bottles for 30 euros total is cheaper than 1kg for £33.. same amount of agar.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: tump]
#23909678 - 12/09/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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tump said: No one recommends the another teks to noobs. I live in a city of almost a million people in which i can count the number of places that carry agar anything on one hand. 2 out of 3 dont even restock. There is one wine and beer making shop which is the only place that has malt. Yes that includes health food atores, asian markets and alike. Finding agar/ malt is impossible to large amount of population. But you can go to any grocery store and pick up corn meal, corn starch or anything i listed. The main reason people use bird seed besides more inoculation points is ease of access.
So order agar then? I live 20 miles from the nearest grocery store and I still manage.
Why would we recommend inferior substitutes to new users?
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: spacechildo]
#23909700 - 12/09/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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spacechildo said: Josex, 2x 500g agar bottles for 30 euros total is cheaper than 1kg for £33.. same amount of agar.
I know, what I didn't realize is that I was unintentionally lying, I just forgot how much it cost me but it was more expensive than 15 euros. Still, way cheaper than buying it from a health food store...
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Josex]
#23909747 - 12/09/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Patience is so important in this hobby. If someone doesn't have the patience to read and filter through the outdated information, then maybe growing mushrooms just isn't for them.
Why don't you write some teks yourself if you are so inclined. Whether people decide to use them is up to them. I think people figure out what methods work best for them, and then stick to them for the most part. Its a learning process.
Besides, you could dumb things down as much as you want, and someone is still going to find a way to fuck things up.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: egobrain]
#23909844 - 12/09/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think the OP means it can be expensive not hard for noobs to get going, but really it's not. Yeah Light malt extract for your agar recipe isn't cheap in which case obviously start with potato flakes.
100 gram bag of agar powder at local health food store was $8, instant mash potatoes are cheap as shit and can be found anywhere including Walmart etc.
If the hobby seems too complicated given all the resources on here then maybe this isn't the hobby for the so called " noobs" which I myself would be included in that category. But seen as I'm determined to succeed and have done so due to following teks on this site and I'm by no means the smartest dude out there but am able to follow along and have minimal funds I don't see reason why anyone else out there starting out who is serious can't do the same.
No shortcuts I say.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: blindingleaf]
#23909883 - 12/09/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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blindingleaf said: im in a city of 1.5m, and we have 2 whole foods and a chinatown off the top of my head. not to mention, the vietnam part of town, korean, etc. I can get live chickens freshly decapitated for god sakes. if ur in a big city, i'd think most TEKs expect poo would be accessible.
You can always buy some Zoo Poo in the city
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Mad Season]
#23909937 - 12/09/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is this a skyrim reference?
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: natedawgnow]
#23909999 - 12/09/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Of course! Oh and around here cheap dogfood is less than $10, and 1 bag lasts a lifetime with agar..
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: enlightenment]
#23910093 - 12/09/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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@Josex, Agar from IntraLabs, 240B Gelatin from eBay. IntraLabs supplies an agar recipe and several additives.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: egobrain]
#23910105 - 12/09/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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egobrain said: Why don't you write some teks yourself if you are so inclined. Whether people decide to use them is up to them. I think people figure out what methods work best for them, and then stick to them for the most part. Its a learning process.
 I think this discussion would be better received if it came from a member with credibility. Because you don't have that, you should write up your own suite of teks and let them be reviewed on their merits.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Ferather]
#23910138 - 12/09/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ferather said: @Josex, Agar from IntraLabs, 240B Gelatin from eBay. IntraLabs supplies an agar recipe and several additives.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: liloldme]
#23910152 - 12/09/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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blindingleaf said: im in a city of 1.5m, and we have 2 whole foods and a chinatown off the top of my head. not to mention, the vietnam part of town, korean, etc. I can get live chickens freshly decapitated for god sakes. if ur in a big city, i'd think most TEKs expect poo would be accessible.
You can always buy some Zoo Poo in the city 
holy shit. i googled my zoo. i can get a 30 gallon can of zoo poo for free!! they charge if you want more but i doubt its much. time to get on the phone..
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: mushboy]
#23910166 - 12/09/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hippo, gorilla, giraffe poo should be badass
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Josex]
#23910181 - 12/09/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your welcome Josex, sharing is caring
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: freespeech]
#23910189 - 12/09/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Gonna get me some o' that zoo poo.
As to the original post: I think a more beneficial use of time than rewriting teks is perhaps to update the outdated "Growing Mushrooms" section. I don't think it would be difficult to separate what TCs consider bad, outdated information from teks that would actually give good results, and currently we have both in that section. There are also broken links, sections with no content, non-pictorial teks that may be difficult for noobs to follow, etc. On top of all that, the organization is kind of a mess; it's not presented in a procedural manner; it's more like the first half was organized alphabetically, and then the second half was tossed in a bin.
I'm not saying noobs can't find their way if they spend enough time researching, but if that section is presented to them as the library of information they need to get started, I don't think it's entirely their fault that they spend half of their time doing fucky things with their grows.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: spacechildo]
#23910521 - 12/09/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It may just be a language barrier thing since tump doesnt speak english
Really? I kind of feel like a dick now but that would explain the terrible syntax
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Kenetic] 5
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Here at shroomery we replace the noob not the teks.
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#23910533 - 12/09/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: Here at shroomery we replace the noob not the teks.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: cronicr]
#23910557 - 12/09/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: Here at shroomery we replace the noob not the teks.
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#23910586 - 12/09/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: Here at shroomery we replace the noob not the teks.
that's worth going in the signature
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: bodhisatta]
#23910837 - 12/09/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Update: Reached 50 posts.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: azur] 1
#23910929 - 12/09/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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azur said: No No No
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#23910947 - 12/09/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: Here at shroomery we replace the noob not the teks.

Maybe we should replace tump for hillary
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#23911064 - 12/09/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: Here at shroomery we replace the noob not the teks.
 Dick
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: tump]
#23911519 - 12/09/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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tump, Exactly how is recommending a glovebox worthy of having one's balls cut off? Other than a flowhood, it's the most-effective preventative measure against contamination (along with proper sterile technique) while inoculating or working with plates.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: JoeMama1992]
#23911591 - 12/09/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pollen and dust are both attracted to static electricity. Might be better than a SAB? If not attracted surely repelled.. 
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: liloldme]
#23911598 - 12/09/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I always leave the walls moist with diluted alcohol just so that doesn't happen.  Started doing it when I realized that verm dust was sticking to the walls of the "arm holes" and the verm was 6ft away.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: JoeMama1992]
#23911607 - 12/09/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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JoeMama1992 said: tump, Exactly how is recommending a glovebox worthy of having one's balls cut off? Other than a flowhood, it's the most-effective preventative measure against contamination (along with proper sterile technique) while inoculating or working with plates.
A still air box is better than a glove box. If I remember correctly RR uses a flow hood and a SAB in his videos. I don't recall seeing a glove box.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: MudaFuka]
#23911618 - 12/09/16 09:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well I meant SAB; "glovebox" just rolls off the mental tongue easier. I couldn't imagine trying to work with arm-length gloves in such a small space.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: JoeMama1992]
#23911645 - 12/09/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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make a bigger SAB then....
people who call SABs small and confined are just too retarded to build one out of something other than a tote.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: JoeMama1992]
#23911647 - 12/09/16 09:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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In RR's videos, he uses a still air box, but refers to it as a "glovebox." From what I remember, in my previous life of using this site (2008-2011) nobody really used the term "still air box." Most people called that a "glovebox," but the term was overloaded and referred to both the gloved and non-gloved varieties.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: bodhisatta]
#23911649 - 12/09/16 09:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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too retarded to build one out of something other than a tote
...Or just flat-out don't have the space for one any bigger than 4ftx3ft, have long-ass arms, and like to have something that can be moved at a moment's notice. Dick.
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#23911650 - 12/09/16 09:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said: make a bigger SAB then....
people who call SABs small and confined are just too retarded to build one out of something other than a tote.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: egobrain]
#23911679 - 12/09/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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people will say a SAB is cramped then make a DIY flow hood 
a 110 quart tub usually costs $17 for a good one. if that size just doesn't cut it for you for $40-50 you can make one out of plexiglas (yes like polyfil plexiglas name brand is just one s)
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: freespeech]
#23911701 - 12/09/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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freespeech said: In RR's videos, he uses a still air box, but refers to it as a "glovebox." From what I remember, in my previous life of using this site (2008-2011) nobody really used the term "still air box." Most people called that a "glovebox," but the term was overloaded and referred to both the gloved and non-gloved varieties.
I would not say retarded, is is just a big box though Lol Dick
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: JoeMama1992]
#23911703 - 12/09/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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too retarded to build one out of something other than a tote
...Or just flat-out don't have the space for one any bigger than 4ftx3ft, have long-ass arms, and like to have something that can be moved at a moment's notice. Dick.
well most people consider the alternative a FH which is harder to move at a moments notice and bigger
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: bodhisatta]
#23911722 - 12/09/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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JoeMama1992 said:
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too retarded to build one out of something other than a tote
...Or just flat-out don't have the space for one any bigger than 4ftx3ft, have long-ass arms, and like to have something that can be moved at a moment's notice. Dick.
well most people consider the alternative a FH which is harder to move at a moments notice and bigger
Wait...... is that my quote?
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: bodhisatta]
#23911730 - 12/09/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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if you need to 'move a sab at a moments notice' id imagine you are fucked when forever reason you need to move a bunch of monos with the same urgency
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: mushboy]
#23911735 - 12/09/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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my SAB is the easiest thing for me to move, it's the only empty thing.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: mushboy]
#23911736 - 12/09/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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mushboy said: if you need to 'move a sab at a moments notice' id imagine you are fucked when forever reason you need to move a bunch of monos with the same urgency
True, never reason to hide a SAB
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: mushboy]
#23911850 - 12/09/16 11:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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mushboy said: if you need to 'move a sab at a moments notice' id imagine you are fucked when forever reason you need to move a bunch of monos with the same urgency
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: liloldme]
#23912060 - 12/10/16 02:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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liloldme said: Pollen and dust are both attracted to static electricity. Might be better than a SAB? If not attracted surely repelled.. 
Shit, that might lead to some interesting ideas. IIRC I've come across materials that are permanently charged with static electricity, can't remember the exact material but I know they exist.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: liloldme] 2
#23912133 - 12/10/16 04:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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blindingleaf said: im in a city of 1.5m, and we have 2 whole foods and a chinatown off the top of my head. not to mention, the vietnam part of town, korean, etc. I can get live chickens freshly decapitated for god sakes. if ur in a big city, i'd think most TEKs expect poo would be accessible.
You can always buy some Zoo Poo in the city 
my favorite kind
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: stevo]
#23912840 - 12/10/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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people buy it all the time. It was a big deal here on the shroomery 10-15 years ago then it kinda faded away with everyone doing coir.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: stevo]
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i never paid for it, but I have to go to the recycling center. the zoo won't allow people to take anything from the actual zoo for liability issues…they like to pass that on to the city itself
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