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we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly.
    #23908612 - 12/08/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

First what i mean more friendly is ease of access to material and ease of use.

1. Replace common agar prepour. Replace it to corn meal tek. In case of truoble finding agar agar.

2. Replace common lc recipe teks. Instead of simple sugars we should switch them to grain water lc, brf lc, corn strach lc. All which can be pressure cook long period of time without destroying it usefulness.


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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: tump] * 1
    #23908630 - 12/08/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: azur]
    #23908658 - 12/08/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

the journey is a big part. dont want to make it too easy. but i wish the
really old and outdated stuff was labeled better. like a water marked background.

but i found out the secrets of the shroomery and its not for everyone to know.


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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: mushboy]
    #23908782 - 12/08/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I know what you mean on the old old stuff. Even in rr vidoes he talks about glovebox use and many other crap we would cut the balls off if recordment now. But we should make as easy as possible.


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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: tump] * 1
    #23908796 - 12/08/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Make what as easy as what? Replace what where when? There are already teks for all that shit you just mentioned. Sure we can't all have government grants but some of us like agar and LC.

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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Pastywhyte] * 1
    #23908874 - 12/08/16 11:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I agree. The first couple months, I wasted so much time doing teks that were out-dated and buying shit I didn't need.


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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: AK1000]
    #23908918 - 12/09/16 12:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think agar will ever be replaced, its the standard.

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AK1000 said:
I agree. The first couple months, I wasted so much time doing teks that were out-dated and buying shit I didn't need.




How much research did you do before jumping in though?

I find that teks are a fad, but in reality theres no wrong way to grow
...well except for ways that cause contamination lol :bigblunt:


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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Intelligentxfruit2]
    #23909030 - 12/09/16 01:47 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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How much research did you do before jumping in though?




I read a fuckload every night.  I read like an assasin.

I started with the teks at the top of the site where you hover over "Mushroom info" and "growing mushrooms" and read everything there, which has out-dated stuff.


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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: AK1000]
    #23909065 - 12/09/16 02:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Agar and malt extract are not difficult things to find.
I fail to see how they're difficult to use also, you literally just add water.

Besides there are a very wide variety of agar substitute teks already.
Same goes for LC.


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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Greg]
    #23909074 - 12/09/16 02:45 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Tbh I find it far easier to fuck up a cornmeal/ brf paste agar substitute prep than an agar prep. You'd have to be seriously retarted to not be able to whip up a batch of no-pour agar plates if simple directions are followed.

Agar is accessible to everyone and if for whatever reason you can't find it locally there's always the internet. Also, agar can be prepared using a lot of different nutes (malt extract, BRF, potato flakes, dog food, grain water...) so you don't depend on the availability of only one or two nute sources.


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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Greg]
    #23909079 - 12/09/16 02:56 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

No one recommends the another teks to noobs. I live in a city of almost a million people in which i can count the number of places that carry agar anything on one hand. 2 out of 3 dont even restock. There is one wine and beer making shop which is the only place that has malt. Yes that includes health food atores, asian markets and alike. Finding agar/ malt is impossible to large amount of population. But you can go to any grocery store and pick up corn meal, corn starch or anything i listed. The main reason people use bird seed besides more inoculation points is ease of access.


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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: tump]
    #23909087 - 12/09/16 03:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

im in a city of 1.5m, and we have 2 whole foods and a chinatown off the top of my head.  not to mention, the vietnam part of town, korean, etc.  I can get live chickens freshly decapitated for god sakes.  if ur in a big city, i'd think most TEKs expect poo would be accessible.


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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: tump]
    #23909118 - 12/09/16 04:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You can't see what your working with on corn meal, that stuff is for a third + transfer LI's.  AGar is not hard to find.  We live in the age of the internet.  I think it is smart noob friendly around here tump.


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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
    #23909301 - 12/09/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Your title makes no sense.  Everything under the title also makes no sense.  I can see why you opted out of the rating system....

I used to think everyone was being hard on you but after reading multiple fucking retarded posts from you I can see why....

Btw if anyone really wants to succeed in this hobby they will find a way to get what they need. 


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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Kenetic]
    #23909329 - 12/09/16 07:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Oh bull shit that noobs will find there way in this hobby. How many times a week do you and i reply to some noob who "read the forums like crazy" but still by a kit. Then bicth about how the kit fails them. People are lazy as shit, they want to succeed. But it's to hard for them to get what they need. Probably For ever 10 growers that do things the right ways theres 10 thar don't. And those 10 that don't just give up after there frist few trys.


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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: tump]
    #23909336 - 12/09/16 07:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Fuck them then


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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: tump]
    #23909355 - 12/09/16 07:40 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Dude tump, I've been nice to you so far.
But you need to STFU.
Send me pics of your awesome teks and maybe I'll take you seriously.
I live in a small/medium sized area in a rural part of the USA and have NO problem finding agar agar and potato flakes. 
I don't think I've EVER seen anything other than whining and bitching from you.
Go sit at the kids table.
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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23909382 - 12/09/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Amazon sells agar, idk why everyone has to pick it up from a store when nearly every supply can be ordered online for cheap.


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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: Kenetic]
    #23909383 - 12/09/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

what ya mean with replace teks?
there are already teks like the ones you mention, so buy replace do you mean delete all teks on agar and LC?
this makes no sense to me.. the stuff you mention arent more "friendly" than any other teks out there :shrug:

also agar can be found anywhere, if you're really unlucky and cant get it locally there's still internet. you know, the thing you use to access the shroomery.


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Re: we should replace some noob teks to be more friendly. [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23909392 - 12/09/16 07:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I guess I have a hard time seeing agar as being hard. I started agar before I had finished my first pf tek. In fact I cloned my first fruits from that grow to agar. Keep in mind that this was before frank had written any of his teks let alone SBJs collection or the army of vets and TC's answering questions daily.

The only people who have issues either live in the 3rd world or a incredibly lazy.


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