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SirTripAlot
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-------------------- “I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”
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SirTripAlot
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Lets fund a report,then withhold it; because we wont get to waste more money.....
Can Trump or any executive meaningfully change this?
-------------------- “I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”
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akira_akuma
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yes, by cutting the population in half. there ya go, problem solved.
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ballsalsa
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This article/report is all a scam on the public. We are gonna sit here and talk about inflated labor costs in the military rather than wasteful boondoggles? What a joke.
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/7/the-american-militarys-trillion-dollar-boondoggle.html
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The F-35 Lightning II multirole stealth fighter plane, the most expensive weapons system in the history of the planet, marks this trajectory’s nadir; mention of the plane in military circles usually has the term “boondoggle” following closely on its heel. The government spent $59 billion on development, $261 billion on procurement, and $590 billion for “operations and sustainment” of the F-35 in 2012. It still wasn’t ready to save us from the Russians on the Fourth of July.
Its weapons delivery system is prone to tracking false targets because of software issues. The plane can’t fly within 25 miles of a storm. The pilot helmet display doesn’t work. The plane requires massive amounts of maintenance, far beyond anything predicted. It’s simply unsafe and unreliable.
The Patriot Missile, or MIM-104, was the hero of the first Gulf War — our answer to the Soviet Scud missile used by Iraq’s Saddam Hussein. The Patriot was conceived of with 1970’s Cold War military logic. The Soviets had a lot of surface-to-air missiles, so we somehow came to the conclusion that we could, too. (Never mind that our entire strategy was based on fighter-led air superiority.) The Patriots outlasted the Cold War. And even though they were meant to shoot planes out of the sky, not take out massive, heavy Scuds, we repurposed them to that end anyway.
The government’s original claim was that Patriots destroyed 45 out of 47 Scud missiles. In reality it was only two. Total failure, right? Not quite. Just this April, Raytheon scored a $2 billion order for Patriot Missiles, a success by American defense industry standards.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/13/opinion/13arquilla.html
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Unworkable or unnecessary systems tend to have something in common: their costs are often uncontrollable. A 2009 Government Accountability Office study of 96 major defense acquisition programs found that almost two-thirds of them suffered major cost overruns — 40 percent above contract prices, over all — with average delays of nearly two years. Those overruns totaled close to $300 billion, about the amount of President Bill Clinton’s last full defense budget request a decade ago.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/world-report/articles/2016-02-03/the-pentagon-could-reach-a-historic-level-of-wasteful-spending
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The Special Inspector General for Afghan Reconstruction has uncovered scandal after scandal involving U.S. aid to that country, including the creation of private villas for a small number of personnel working for a Pentagon economic development initiative and a series of costly facilities that were never or barely used. An analysis by ProPublica puts the price tag for wasteful and misguided expenditures in Afghanistan at $17 billion, a figure that is higher than the GDP of 80 nations.
A Politico report on the Pentagon's $44 billion Defense Logistics Agency notes that it spent over $7 billion on unneeded equipment
http://www.forbes.com/sites/charlestiefer/2016/01/01/the-10-most-blatantly-wasteful-defense-items-in-the-recent-1-8-trillion-spending-bill/#6115c2f64570
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Enormous non-budgeted “submarine spending fund.” This is a new fund that is meant to keep the super-expensive new nuclear missile submarine outside the normal shipbuilding budget. It’s the “National Sea-Based Deterrence Fund.” Every dollar of the submarine costs, which is a $90 billion – plus program, comes out of the Treasury, just, it will not be weighed against other Navy choices.
The New York Times said it all: "Language inserted into the federal budget over the objection of the Obama administration by Senator Thad Cochran, Republican of Mississippi, directed the Coast Guard to build a $640 million National Security Cutter in Mississippi that the Coast Guard says it does not need.”
Again, the New York Times said it all: A provision “which Senator Susan Collins, Republican of Maine, helped secure, appropriated an extra $1 billion for a Navy destroyer that is likely to be built at Bath Iron Works in her state. The Defense Department had not requested money for the additional ship in this year’s budget.”
The grossly excessive “Littoral Combat Ship” (LCS) program. The LCS is a Navy ship meant to be able to sail close to shore. It has had several negative reports by the GAO, and one of the newest LCSs broke down at sea in December. Nonetheless, Austal USA just announced an award within a $3.5 billion LCS contract. So the LCS program is still funded, even though the Secretary of Defense is trying to cut the program back.
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THe govt is full of waste, leftists want you to believe its all military, only one man has done anything to reign in costs, and he isn't even president yet
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akira_akuma
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yeah, and you let yourself wait around for him, lefty. why didn't you pull yourself and the country up by it's bootstraps?
oh yeah, and the right LOVES to waste money. see much they wasted under Bush...but who cares about that.
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oh yeah, and the right LOVES to waste money. see much they wasted under Bush...but who cares about that.
So because Bush wasted a lot of money, that makes it okay for every other president to?
What exactly is your point when you keep bringing up Bush? You sound like Obama for fucks sake
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ballsalsa
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hostileuniverse said:
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akira_akuma said:
oh yeah, and the right LOVES to waste money. see much they wasted under Bush...but who cares about that.
So because Bush wasted a lot of money, that makes it okay for every other president to?
What exactly is your point when you keep bringing up Bush? You sound like Obama for fucks sake

Would you rather he brought up Reagan?


https://mises.org/library/sad-legacy-ronald-reagan-0
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In 1980, Jimmy Carter's last year as president, the federal government spent a whopping 27.9% of "national income" (an obnoxious term for the private wealth produced by the American people). Reagan assaulted the free-spending Carter administration throughout his campaign in 1980. So how did the Reagan administration do? At the end of the first quarter of 1988, federal spending accounted for 28.7% of "national income."
The result has been unprecedented government debt. Reagan has tripled the Gross Federal Debt, from $900 billion to $2.7 trillion. Ford and Carter in their combined terms could only double it. It took 31 years to accomplish the first postwar debt tripling, yet Reagan did it in eight.
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What in the fuck does any of that have to with Trump saving money?
You people are like bipolar kindergartners
***and obama doubled the debt, I have neither the time nor inclination to source it for you but it's true
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akira_akuma
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hostileuniverse said: So because Bush wasted a lot of money, that makes it okay for every other president to?
What exactly is your point when you keep bringing up Bush? You sound like Obama for fucks sake
point is: neoconservative & neoliberal economic/political strategies typically fall along the same lines of discourse.
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hostileuniverse said: ***and obama doubled the debt, I have neither the time nor inclination to source it for you but it's true
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/pf/12/good-debt-bad-debt.asp
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hostileuniverse said: So because Bush wasted a lot of money, that makes it okay for every other president to?
What exactly is your point when you keep bringing up Bush? You sound like Obama for fucks sake
point is: neoconservative & neoliberal economic/political strategies typically fall along the same lines ofcourse
So trump is trying to change that, we should all support that
When we default, it won't be pretty
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akira_akuma
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fair enough.
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